Ferrer backers (if there's anyone out there besides me) check in

[yisman]

yeah Mayer/Gasquet just halted. I have money on Mayer ML and Mayer +2.5 sets.

[Demonata]

I'm on Del Potro. He's looking to make it three consecutive Grand Slam quarterfinals in 2012. He took apart Japanese stud Kei Nishikori in the third round 6-3, 7-6, 6-1, slamming 12 aces and winning nearly half of Nishikori’s service points. Ferrer keeps the play alive just like Nishikori and Del Potro killed him. He's playing great this year and can dominate any match he tries hard in. Ferrer might win a set though.

[freshguy222]

ferrer hardly ever slices the ball, i just think they are similar players from the baseline with more firepower on delpo's side. i love backing ferrer agaisnt weaker opponents but not against the top guys except for some spots

[Demonata]

ferrer hardly ever slices the ball, i just think they are similar players from the baseline with more firepower on delpo's side. i love backing ferrer agaisnt weaker opponents but not against the top guys except for some spots

Exactly, that serving from Del Potro is what could be the X factor. That's my problem with playing tennis is I don't have a good serve so I can get eaten alive in tie breaks etc.

[EaglesPhan36]

Nishikori isn't a good comparison to Ferrer right now. Nishi isn't anywhere close to being on his A game after a couple months off. Frankly, I was surprised he won a couple matches.

[tevari]

Comparing Nishikori to Ferrer = LoL

[MagicDiceFlow]

That's where I think the mistake is on this public money pouring in on Del Potro. They're looking at DP's grass wins this year which Nishi is a poor comparison to Ferrer. Ferrer has a much better serve than Nishi , especially his second serves. Not booming , but a decent serve none the less.

[tevari]

Don't know if they'll play today.

[Demonata]

Nishikori isn't a good comparison to Ferrer right now. Nishi isn't anywhere close to being on his A game after a couple months off. Frankly, I was surprised he won a couple matches.

I was not surprised he won those matches at all. He went far in the Australian Open. He can be a great player and is still young.

Comparing Nishikori to Ferrer = LoL

Well you obviously don't watch tennis closely or play tennis. They both have great endurance,speed, groundstrokes with great depth and consistant serves. If that is not like Ferrer than you don;t know wh Ferrer even is. lol.

That's where I think the mistake is on this public money pouring in on Del Potro. They're looking at DP's grass wins this year which Nishi is a poor comparison to Ferrer. Ferrer has a much better serve than Nishi , especially his second serves. Not booming , but a decent serve none the less.

How are two players with very similar playing styles not good comparisons? A much better serve? How so?

[Dad]

I'm on Ferrer

[ghislaine]

Sorry to bug You MDF, but I am sure many are wondering the same !
Will You be starting a pund the bookie plays thread again ?? With tennis and MLB action ??
We all need a good run and Your superior cappin' skills.

[MagicDiceFlow]

I was not surprised he won those matches at all. He went far in the Australian Open. He can be a great player and is still young.

Well you obviously don't watch tennis closely or play tennis. They both have great endurance,speed, groundstrokes with great depth and consistant serves. If that is not like Ferrer than you don;t know wh Ferrer even is. lol.


How are two players with very similar playing styles not good comparisons? A much better serve? How so?

Using the Australian Open is a poor comparison. Totally different surface with grass with totally different nuances. For starters, Nishi has nowhere near the fitness level as Ferrer. If you follow these two players closely, you'll see that Nishi has a very poor second serve. At times unacceptable. Which is why he got broken so much. Ferrer on the other hand, is steady with both serves. His groundstrokes and conditioning of course is his bread and butter.

[MagicDiceFlow]

Sorry to bug You MDF, but I am sure many are wondering the same !
Will You be starting a pund the bookie plays thread again ?? With tennis and MLB action ??
We all need a good run and Your superior cappin' skills.

Hey Ghislaine, yes I'll be rolling out a July thread on the baseball side later today.

[tevari]

Well you obviously don't watch tennis closely or play tennis. They both have great endurance,speed, groundstrokes with great depth and consistant serves. If that is not like Ferrer than you don;t know wh Ferrer even is. lol.

they play similar games. you took what i said too literally.

[good2go2mexico]

yeah Mayer/Gasquet just halted. I have money on Mayer ML and Mayer +2.5 sets.

I wasn't watching but Mayer is surprising me judging by the stats. I don't have any money on it myself but I'll pull for you, gutsy call see most people were all over Gasquet in this spot.

[good2go2mexico]

Don't know if they'll play today.

Doubt it. Rain is supposed to continue until dark. That's fine, I'd rather just not start then all this starting/stopping garbage.

[yisman]

I wasn't watching but Mayer is surprising me judging by the stats. I don't have any money on it myself but I'll pull for you, gutsy call see most people were all over Gasquet in this spot.

thanks, holding two small bets

45964928-1	7/2/2012 8:20AM	Spread	16.20	10.00	Other Sports - 4236 F. Mayer +2½ -162 for Game
45964928-2	7/2/2012 8:20AM	Money Line	10.00	40.00	Other Sports - 4236 F. Mayer +400 for Game

too bad about the rain because Mayer's serve might not be quite as good whenever they resume. The first bet means I essentially get a push, though, if Gasquet comes back and wins.

[Demonata]

Using the Australian Open is a poor comparison. Totally different surface with grass with totally different nuances. For starters, Nishi has nowhere near the fitness level as Ferrer. If you follow these two players closely, you'll see that Nishi has a very poor second serve. At times unacceptable. Which is why he got broken so much. Ferrer on the other hand, is steady with both serves. His groundstrokes and conditioning of course is his bread and butter.

Well the Australian Open was to compare how he does under pressure in big tournaments. His speed helps him on grass. Nowhere near his fitness level? So it's a fluke that when Kei Nishikori continuously has enough endurance to win 5 setters and play long rallys a whole match means he is no where near Ferrers fitness level. Also it's a fluke that he as some of the best endurance on tour?Wouldn't you have to be fit to have that good of endurance? Also the fact that he's still in his early 20s. His second serve does not have much power but I would not consider it very poor. Main goal in second serve is to not double fault. Ferrer and Nishikori don't have powerful serves. Ferrer has a little better second serve but second serve is not meant for winners. They both play very similar as I have explained before. They both have great endurance,speed, groundstrokes with great depth and not very powerful serves.

[Demonata]

they play similar games. you took what i said too literally.

Well saying there style of play was similar caused you to Laugh Out Loud. If I was comparing him to John Isner or Karlovic that would be unsimilar.

[drew2]

13 units in ferrer go

[good2go2mexico]

Should be interesting to see if the public continues to pound Del Potro overnight. Might get an even better line by tomorrow morning if I want to play more.

[sneakerhead]

Who is playing on center court now?

[tevari]

djo/tro

[shari91]

I feel like I say this every time at this stage in Slams but just be careful that you're not over betting regardless of who you're are on. Players are getting very close in skill now so even though you'll see the odd lopsided scoreline like Aza/Ana (although I'm sure no one was too surprised about that outcome), you'll also see many close matches. It's bad enough at a tourney like the Aussie Open where you have to figure in how the heat will affect players. With Wimbledon you have to factor in how the stops and starts thanks to the rain will affect momentum, mentality, the balls, court speed, etc. Very scary to have big money tied up in matches that can stretch over 2+ days so don't bet what you can't afford to lose and make sure you protect your hard earned profits.

[good2go2mexico]

Great advice from Shari. I know me personally I had a set goal in mind coming into Wimbledon and have cashed out that portion accordingly. I figure I am now playing with house money so just trying to capitalize where I can.

[tevari]

they should move ferrer/delpo to center court after this match that should end around 8 PM their time. too bad they won't.

[Sport_Fish]

they should move ferrer/delpo to center court after this match that should end around 8 PM their time. too bad they won't.

why the hell don't they do it?? i dont get it...theres enough time left.

[yisman]

I guess they sent everyone away already.

[shari91]

Great advice from Shari. I know me personally I had a set goal in mind coming into Wimbledon and have cashed out that portion accordingly. I figure I am now playing with house money so just trying to capitalize where I can.

Yep, personally I think you've taken a great approach. Even after betting on tennis for too many years to count I still once every so often get caught up in a latter round match and my excitement translates into betting bigger than I normally would. It's stupidity on my part unless my numbers warrant it and often they don't. It makes much more sense to capitalise on early round matches where books have lazily priced people horribly wrong based on rankings than to try to guess if top 10 player x will be tired or if top 10 player y's ball toss will be affected by wind that the Weather Channel says might come. But of course seeing big names facing off against each other is hard to resist. Everyone wants to have a bet on the match and often it turns into a lot of money wagered. I've often thought that I wish someone would study the psychology of tennis bettors. In the first round of a Slam for example there could be 25 matches played that day but for some reason there are always one or two that get everyone's attention. And often they don't involve 'names'. Something makes people naturally flock to those ones and you see it not only here on SBR but on every forum. I've started many threads about matches that no one else was talking about but people were power posting in threads about another one yet both matches featured relative unknowns. I've never managed to figure out what sucks people in to focusing on one particular match when there are so many others to choose from.

[tevari]

this match is FIRST on center court Tuesday, noon their time, so 7:00 AM EST.

[good2go2mexico]

this match is FIRST on center court Tuesday, noon their time, so 7:00 AM EST.

Thanks for the info hadn't had a chance to check the draws yet.

[tevari]

NP. Not sure if the website lists the order of play yet but I had on Wimbledon radio and heard that way.

[good2go2mexico]

NP. Not sure if the website lists the order of play yet but I had on Wimbledon radio and heard that way.

It's listed on there now. That's the only ATP match scheduled for Centre too. They got 2 WTA matches scheduled after, so guess if it rains they're moving the in play matches over at the end of the day.

[blinky88]

i like ferrer also, but you're not worried about line moving to +130?

[good2go2mexico]

i like ferrer also, but you're not worried about line moving to +130?

I am preferable to the line moving to +130.