he's already made the final at the us open and aussie open, now he's ready to win wimbledon. the semis on friday between him and nadal is basically like a finals matchup because whoever wins will most likely win wimbledon
hoopster42
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anyone agree? disagree?
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Jrod124
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I agree looked really good and the crowds are crazy!! If he is ever going to do it this could be the year. Rafa will be a war though!
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shari91
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I agree he's probably ready but I don't think it'll be this year. Way too many errors in the Tsonga match and at times he was merely gifted with points thanks to Tsonga's inconsistency, mental snaps and hand injury in the 2nd set tiebreak. He won't get that from Nadal although he does know how to play him so it should be a great match. I just honestly don't see him having the mental strength or a clean enough game yet to get it done this year. But if you're taking him, best of luck.
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EaglesPhan36
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Is he a live dog?
If your thread Fs his mojo, I will eat your heart. I have Murray at +925 to win Wimbledon. And I think ANY of the four guys left can win it all.
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by shari91
I agree he's probably ready but I don't think it'll be this year. Way too many errors in the Tsonga match and at times he was merely gifted with points thanks to Tsonga's inconsistency, mental snaps and hand injury in the 2nd set tiebreak. He won't get that from Nadal although he does know how to play him so it should be a great match. I just honestly don't see him having the mental strength or a clean enough game yet to get it done this year. But if you're taking him, best of luck.
shari you know a ton about tennis, i will say that
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Jrod124
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Djoker is the only one that can't win. Guy is terrible and got a joke of a draw. Hewitt played his worst match of the grass court season and still SHOULD have won
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
Is he a live dog?
If your thread Fs his mojo, I will eat your heart. I have Murray at +925 to win Wimbledon. And I think ANY of the four guys left can win it all.
there will be a zillion people on sports message boards talking him up before fridays matchup so why would you blame me if he loses
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THEGREAT30
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he will never win anything big
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Jrod124
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but good luck EP, u can obviously lock up some profit with that future already. Will done sir
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EaglesPhan36
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Because you started THIS thread Pappy. That alone lays blame on your heart.
I am waiting to see what the line does for Berdych-Djokovic. I hate Djokovic, but he's been in this spot before, Berdy ... not so much. Wanting to see if Joe Public simply goes for the player who beat the public's favorite bet, Federer.
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
Because you started THIS thread Pappy. That alone lays blame on your heart.
I am waiting to see what the line does for Berdych-Djokovic. I hate Djokovic, but he's been in this spot before, Berdy ... not so much. Wanting to see if Joe Public simply goes for the player who beat the public's favorite bet, Federer.
well, andy is a dog to nadal so i am going out on a mini limb, Sir
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jjgold
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Murray is very good but does get tight in big tourneys at critical times
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by jjgold
Murray is very good but does get tight in big tourneys at critical times
yes, but those were mainly the 2 grand slam finals and it was against federer. he beat nadal in australia forcing him to retire from the match, and 2 years ago he nadal in the us open semis. he plays very well against nadal.
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B1GER1C828
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i honestly think murray will never win a GrandSlam...or be like roddick and only win 1 but stll be in the top rankings
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by B1GER1C828
i honestly think murray will never win a GrandSlam...or be like roddick and only win 1 but stll be in the top rankings
which is it? he'll win none or he'll win one?
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Goat Milk
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Hoopster if you like Murray to beat Nadal take him to win Wimbledon at +300 instead of +150 against Nadal.
You're right whoever wins this match will dispose of Berdych/Djokavic in 4 sets.
Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by Goat Milk
Hoopster if you like Murray to beat Nadal take him to win Wimbledon at +300 instead of +150 against Nadal.
You're right whoever wins this match will dispose of Berdych/Djokavic in 4 sets.
thats exactly what i did but i got it at +290
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CrimsonQueen
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I got my Murray stock at +700
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by CrimsonQueen
I got my Murray stock at +700
very nice!
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whitedogau
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enormous pressure on Murray from and English public and media who claim him as their own when he wins, and discard him as a Scot when he loses
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aceking
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murray = zero grand slams
nadal = double digits winner
final will be between No.1 and No.2 : Nadal vs Djokovic .
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SRBI
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Originally posted by hoopster42
he's already made the final at the us open and aussie open, now he's ready to win wimbledon. the semis on friday between him and nadal is basically like a finals matchup because whoever wins will most likely win wimbledon
you're kidding right? Best fade of the day - thanks!
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HeeeHAWWWW
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Originally posted by Jrod124
Djoker is the only one that can't win. Guy is terrible and got a joke of a draw. Hewitt played his worst match of the grass court season and still SHOULD have won
Yes, he was lucky there, Hewitt was poor.
However, Djokovic has a game well suited to beating Nadal on faster courts - watch some youtube of his numerous wins on hard courts. Of course grass is a different beast, but there's plenty scope for short points, and Nadal's higher trajectory game isn't the type to expose Djokovic's grip. Nadal probably wins yes, but plenty room for value on the outsider.
Another thing: if Murray does win, he'll want to play Djokovic, that's a very comfortable matchup for him. Berdych would be a lot tougher, although more chance of a mental breakdown there.
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chibears
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agreed
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by aceking
murray = zero grand slams
nadal = double digits winner
final will be between No.1 and No.2 : Nadal vs Djokovic .
actually nadal has 7 slams (5 french, 1 wimb, 1 aus), but nice try though
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Fthenorm
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Would be strange if Berdych won a major before murray, but its possible..Berdych is definitely improving while Murrays quality of play is stagnant if anything.
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CrimsonQueen
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Nadal = took how many injury time outs (5 maybe?) and dropped how many sets (5!) at Wimbledon this year?
Murray = took 0 injury time outs and dropped 1 set at Wimbledon this year.
I'm not saying Murray will beat Nadal, but you can't give the trophy to Nadal until he beats Murray who he is 7-3 against.
Plus keep in mind 2 wins were on Clay, which don't count, cuz Nadal is god of clay.
So he's 5-3 against Murray on other surfaces. Most recently they played in the Australian Open in the Quarter Finals, and Murray won 6-3, 7-6(2), 3-0 ret.
Also, if you don't count clay, then in their last 5 meetings, Murray is 3-1 against Nadal. (throw 1 clay loss in their last 5 if you must) If you just count grass, yes Nadal won the only time they played on it, but that was 2 years ago, and there's no doubt Murray improved greatly since then.
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D3 Mighty Ducks
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I would love to pull the trigger on Murray at + money but by reading this thread Nadal is the play? Correct.
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Goat Milk
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Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
I would love to pull the trigger on Murray at + money but by reading this thread Nadal is the play? Correct.
Whoever you like in this match take them to win Wimbledon at much better odds. Djokavic/Berdych will not beat Nadal or Murray.
Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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D3 Mighty Ducks
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Originally posted by Goat Milk
Whoever you like in this match take them to win Wimbledon at much better odds. Djokavic/Berdych will not beat Nadal or Murray.
I hear ya i'll probably do that, that sounds smart. Who you got Goat? I don't follow tennis much but i'll sure enjoy a Nadal/Murray war early in the morning to watch before the WC games start.
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
I hear ya i'll probably do that, that sounds smart. Who you got Goat? I don't follow tennis much but i'll sure enjoy a Nadal/Murray war early in the morning to watch before the WC games start.
nope. world cup game brazil and netherlands starts at 7 am pac time. djokovic and berdych starts at 5 am pac time and wont finish til at least 7 am, so the nadal murray match will be at the same time as soccer, and will not be shown live from my understanding. espn2 will leave the coverage at 7 am pac time and then nbc will show both semis at noon pacific until 5 pm
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JNic
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the nbc espn2 thing is unbelievable, i dont really want to watch feeds on my computer but i can't watch a match not live..
nbc really fvcks up big time
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hoopster42
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Originally posted by JNic
the nbc espn2 thing is unbelievable, i dont really want to watch feeds on my computer but i can't watch a match not live..
nbc really fvcks up big time
it's been this way forever, nothing new kemosabe
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D3 Mighty Ducks
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I live in Canada so its different for me. All WC games are CBC and Wimbledon is on TSN.