Two Years Ago in the French Open...

**EaglesPhan36** · 04-20-10, 10:31 AM

No bearing on anything. The rest helps him in the long run, but it's still a horrible bet and I'll stop posting here if anyone says otherwise.

**the tipster** · 04-20-10, 11:53 AM

he might win all the tourneys he enters this clay court season but he will drop a set

**Goat Milk** · 04-21-10, 03:21 AM

bro anyone that doesn't think Nadal is getting to the finals of the French doesn't know what this guy is about. His knees are completely healthy, you can't even give him a challenge on clay right now besides Federer, and federer is training like crazy right now for this French, he wants this one to put the ultimate stamp on his career- he's made like 20 straight semi finals and will get to the finals with Nadal this year as cliche as it sounds. There's no way Nadal will not drop 1 of 3 sets to Fed in a final. COMPLETELY IMBOSSIBLE. THAT PERFORMANCE WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN like i said b4.

**hoopster42** · 04-21-10, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

bro anyone that doesn't think Nadal is getting to the finals of the French doesn't know what this guy is about. His knees are completely healthy, you can't even give him a challenge on clay right now besides Federer, andfederer is training like crazy right now for this French, he wants this one to put the ultimate stamp on his career- he's made like 20 straight semi finals and will get to the finals with Nadal this year as cliche as it sounds. There's no way Nadal will not drop 1 of 3 sets to Fed in a final. COMPLETELY IMBOSSIBLE. THAT PERFORMANCE WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN like i said b4.

1) i've been following nadal's career since he was 15 yrs old. that's well before his first grand slam which was the french 2005. i knew about him before just about anyone in the world including you

2) federer ALWAYS trains like crazy for this tourney because it's the one he's had the least success at. and he won it last yr so he already put THAT stamp on his career even though it wasnt over nadal. he cannot control the rest of the draw, only who's in front of him. besides, the ULTIMATE stamp on his career was beating the sampras record of 14 slams. now, w/16 slams to his name, he's just adding gravy to his already-incredible career.

3) federer has made 23 straight semifinals, not just 20.

4) nadal comes into this french the healthiest he has been in a long time. if he's 18-0 in sets (6 and 0 in matches) coming into the final, then i dont care if fed is on the other side, fed or whoever is getting BLOWN OFF THAT COURT. i actually think the best chance for nadal to lose a set will occurr in matches 3 through 6, that is the 3rd round through the semis. he will face pretty good opponents in those 4 rds and several of the youngsters have gotten better on clay the past few yrs.

also, dont forget that after federer got the record 15th slam (at wimbledon over roddick) he went out to the us open and lost in the final to del potro. fed is going to lose his edge at any point now 'cause there's nothing left for him to do except as you say beat nadal at the french. he's done everything else. he's pretty much done now.

in case you couldnt tell, i like tennis a little bit

**Goat Milk** · 04-21-10, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

1) i've been following nadal's career since he was 15 yrs old. that's well before his first grand slam which was the french 2005. i knew about him before just about anyone in the world including you

2) federer ALWAYS trains like crazy for this tourney because it's the one he's had the least success at. and he won it last yr so he already put THAT stamp on his career even though it wasnt over nadal. he cannot control the rest of the draw, only who's in front of him. besides, the ULTIMATE stamp on his career was beating the sampras record of 14 slams. now, w/16 slams to his name, he's just adding gravy to his already-incredible career.

3) federer has made 23 straight semifinals, not just 20.

4) nadal comes into this french the healthiest he has been in a long time. if he's 18-0 in sets (6 and 0 in matches) coming into the final, then i dont care if fed is on the other side, fed or whoever is getting BLOWN OFF THAT COURT. i actually think the best chance for nadal to lose a set will occurr in matches 3 through 6, that is the 3rd round through the semis. he will face pretty good opponents in those 4 rds and several of the youngsters have gotten better on clay the past few yrs.

also, dont forget that after federer got the record 15th slam (at wimbledon over roddick) he went out to the us open and lost in the final to del potro. fed is going to lose his edge at any point now 'cause there's nothing left for him to do except as you say beat nadal at the french. he's done everything else. he's pretty much done now.

in case you couldnt tell, i like tennis a little bit

For sure bro I can tell you got mad knowledge of the game. I know Tennis a lot as well. Of course I know about Fed's record, but the record is already out of Fed's mind, he doesn't even think about it. Fed was always going to break the record, he's got 5-7 years left and none of those matches including his record I feel were a stamp because we already knew they were going to happen. Federer is best when the odds are stacked against him, being the greatest for so long can sometimes overwhelm and seemingly non-overwhelmable person. Getting far/winning this french (or at least being competitive if he made the final with nadal) would be a huge. Fed has been waiting to get a crack at a healthy Nadal on French ever since he got embarrassed.

**hoopster42** · 04-21-10, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

For sure bro I can tell you got mad knowledge of the game. I know Tennis a lot as well. Of course I know about Fed's record, but the record is already out of Fed's mind, he doesn't even think about it. Fed was always going to break the record, he's got 5-7 years left and none of those matches including his record I feel were a stamp because we already knew they were going to happen. Federer is best when the odds are stacked against him, being the greatest for so long can sometimes overwhelm and seemingly non-overwhelmable person. Getting far/winning this french (or at least being competitive if he made the final with nadal) would be a huge. Fed has been waiting to get a crack at a healthy Nadal on French ever since he got embarrassed.

fed will be 29 yrs old in august bro, no way he has 5-7 yrs left. for every agassi who can play into his mid-30's, there are 50 guys that cannot. i give federer max 2 more yrs at the top of this gm and then he's gona start to slide and when he does, all of the youngsters like del potro, murray, and so many others, are gona pounce on his slipping ass.

**Goat Milk** · 04-21-10, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

fed will be 29 yrs old in august bro, no way he has 5-7 yrs left. for every agassi who can play into his mid-30's, there are 50 guys that cannot. i give federer max 2 more yrs at the top of this gm and then he's gona start to slide and when he does, all of the youngsters like del potro, murray, and so many others, are gona pounce on his slipping ass.

Bro Fed is still just as athletic right now as he was 5 years ago. He'll for sure get worse after he hits 30-31, but the that will just make him human among a free-for all playing field and plus fed is tougher mentally than any of those clowns and always will be. He'll win at least 3-4 more majors before he retires.

**shari91** · 04-21-10, 05:49 AM

I reckon Fed will retire before he gets to the point where he slips too far.

Now that he has the record and his babies, there's no need for him to stay out there and risk embarassing himself when he starts to get beaten by players he would've wiped the court with a year or 2 ago.

Wish a book had odds on the year of Fed's retirement so I could have a little bit of action on it.

**jjgold** · 04-21-10, 05:51 AM

Fed lucky if he can win two more majors, tennis is a young mans game and too many hard hitter coming up and Fed will not have energy to keep up with them. It is a proven fact in tennis that age does matter.

**Boner_18** · 04-21-10, 07:04 AM

He can easily remain in the top 10 for 5 more years.

**hoopster42** · 04-21-10, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Fed lucky if he can win two more majors, tennis is a young mans game and too many hard hitter coming up and Fed will not have energy to keep up with them. It is a proven fact in tennis that age does matter.

absolutely. connors played at a decent level into his late 30's but that only happened at the us open which was like his home court and occurred at the perfect time when tennis was going through a transition (89-91) as mcenroe and lendl were basically done and there were no hard court specialists so even becker was winning on hard courts. sampras was just starting his run at that point and connors had easier draws. agassi played well until age 33 or so when he won his final slam but dont forget that he did not train nearly as hard during the first half of his career as most guys do so he didnt have much wear and tear on his body. agassi is the exception not the rule. i highly doubt fed will continue playing at this high level for more than 2 more yrs, but that might be enough to stick 3 or 4 more slams in his back pocket

**hoopster42** · 04-21-10, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by Boner_18

He can easily remain in the top 10 for 5 more years.

we're not talking about remaining in the top 10, we're talking about winning SLAMS. fed can win slams for about 2 more yrs and then he's done, his slide will begin and he'll picked off before even the semis in EVERY slam. just watch and feel free to bump this post over 2 yrs from now if i'm wrong

**Goat Milk** · 04-22-10, 12:14 AM

Fed will be the best player in the world for the next 2 years, he'll win 3 slams in the next 2-3 years, then he'll cap one off at around 32 and he'll retire right after.

Ok tennis is a young mans game, but no one in the history of the game has ever been a stronger mental player than Fed. In the slams, when it counts, it's all mental. Del Petro will never be dominant. Post Federer, there has only been one player that can be considered dominant and on that supreme level and thats Nadal. Murray will be lucky to win 2-3 slams for his entire career. Same with Djok.

So long as we're waiting for that next up and coming superstar, Fed's only real threat is Nadal for the next 10 slams.

**pat venditto** · 04-22-10, 12:16 AM

Tennis babe is mia no?

**donkdown** · 04-22-10, 11:59 PM

go nadal

**TennisBabe** · 05-21-10, 11:28 AM

Prop is up

Will Rafael Nadal win the french open without dropping a set
Yes +300
No -400

**hoopster42** · 05-21-10, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Fed will be the best player in the world for the next 2 years, he'll win 3 slams in the next 2-3 years, then he'll cap one off at around 32 and he'll retire right after.

Ok tennis is a young mans game, but no one in the history of the game has ever been a stronger mental player than Fed. In the slams, when it counts, it's all mental. Del Petro will never be dominant. Post Federer, there has only been one player that can be considered dominant and on that supreme level and thats Nadal. Murray will be lucky to win 2-3 slams for his entire career. Same with Djok.

So long as we're waiting for that next up and coming superstar, Fed's only real threat is Nadal for the next 10 slams.

i'm gona remember this quote for the next 10 slams

**hanco21** · 05-22-10, 01:59 PM

My book has Federer at +470

**jjgold** · 05-22-10, 02:29 PM

Fed still cannot beat a healthy Nadal on any surface

Guy is intimidated by

**hoopster42** · 05-22-10, 11:30 PM

frenchie starting manana!

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Fed will be the best player in the world for the next 2 years, he'll win 3 slams in the next 2-3 years, then he'll cap one off at around 32 and he'll retire right after.

Ok tennis is a young mans game, but no one in the history of the game has ever been a stronger mental player than Fed. In the slams, when it counts, it's all mental. Del Petro will never be dominant. Post Federer, there has only been one player that can be considered dominant and on that supreme level and thats Nadal. Murray will be lucky to win 2-3 slams for his entire career. Same with Djok.

So long as we're waiting for that next up and coming superstar, Fed's only real threat is Nadal for the next 10 slams.

look at how many times in this thread i tried to tell you that fed is going to diminish now in skills

**shari91** · 06-03-10, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

always root nadal but these days he cannot sweep the french, besides, during his 4 french championships he lost at least 1 set to federer 3 times. i think this is a terrible bet now that i think about it more

Still feel that way?

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by shari91

Still feel that way?

yes. i believe soderling will beat berdych then take at least one set off nadal in the final. remember, soderling took three freaking sets off nadal in last yr's 4th round

**tailmypicks** · 06-03-10, 02:10 PM

soderling will beat nadal
there is no answer to his power

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by tailmypicks

soderling will beat nadal
there is no answer to his power

i'm not sure about soderling beating him this time, but i do believe soderling can easily take 1 set off of him and blow this terrible (nadal to not lose a set) bet up

**Goat Milk** · 06-03-10, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

look at how many times in this thread i tried to tell you that fed is going to diminish now in skills

You seriously think Fed is wearing out just because he lost to Sod on a surface he hasn't been playing on? Clay is about being in rhythm. Fed was never in rhythm. I'm going to bump this thread when Fed gets back to the semis minimum in the next 3 slams.

I was still right about that comment about Fed being Nadal's only threat Hoopster. Now that Fed is gone, Nadal is going to win the French for sure.

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

You seriously think Fed is wearing out just because he lost to Sod on a surface he hasn't been playing on? Clay is about being in rhythm. Fed was never in rhythm. I'm going to bump this thread when Fed gets back to the semis minimum in the next 3 slams.

but you said he would only be challenged by nadal in the next 10 slams. 1 down and he loses to a guy he was 12-0 against, and he didnt just lose, he got waxed bro. now youre backtracking saying he's gona make the semis in the next 3 slams? how about making the finals after wimbledon? how about making the finals at the us open and the aussie open after the age of 29? (p.s. he grew up playing on clay and has always been a great claycourt player so that is a terrible excuse that he wasnt in rhythm. he got run off the court by a guy who's never won a major and only made one major final)

**TennisBabe** · 06-03-10, 03:56 PM

Nadal won't lose a set tomorrow so my prediction of winning the French without dropping a set comes down to the final

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by TennisBabe

Nadal won't lose a set tomorrow so my prediction of winning the French without dropping a set comes down to the final

which will most likely be against soderling, the guy who beat him 3 sets to 1 last yr and is playing better than last year, in other words, you are fukked

**TennisBabe** · 06-03-10, 06:39 PM

You forget Nadal was on one knee that match

**Goat Milk** · 06-03-10, 07:10 PM

Nadal will beat Soderling/Berdych 3-1

**hoopster42** · 06-03-10, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Nadal will beat Soderling/Berdych 3-1

so youre in agreement with what i said weeks ago which is that nadal not to lose a set is a bad bet

**hoopster42** · 06-04-10, 01:38 PM

"nadal not to lose 1 set" is in serious serious trouble versus soderling on sunday morning

**TennisBabe** · 06-04-10, 02:00 PM

I sit at +300 right now with a great hedge chance should I decide to

**pat venditto** · 06-04-10, 02:02 PM

Nadal will drop a set.