TI Consensus Dog Fades

[Luca Fury]

I really Think Fed is in Decent form here. The only reason why He lost a set to Wawrinka was due to the sudden jump in talent. caught him off gaurd i think.

Yeah, seemed like he underestimated him. Definitely didn't make that same mistake vs Cilic.

And I agree, I think Fed might win this in straights. I'm considering betting him in to win 2-0 at +220. Might just go bigger on him -1.5 games, though.

[freshguy222]

i have never seen cilic play so badly and federers matchup against him favors federer so much because of the low slice/chip return and still fed didnt even cover, dont know what people are seeing federer that they keep betting him. murray humiliated him at the olympics and since then murray was clearly the better player and he owns this tournament. murray 1st set and ML, possible set spread.

[Fidel]

LOL at this troll! Yeah, the fact that I'm a profitbal player on MMA, Tennis, MLB, NCAAF and NFL make me "fade material." OK....

Thanks guys! Have a great day!

[matt1216]

Thanks guys! Have a great day!

Even a blind squirl will find his nut once in awhile.

[Luca Fury]

Thanks guys! Have a great day!

I called you out and told you to post proof of your Murray bet before the match started. You immediately disappeared and didn't post again until after Murray won. You obviously didn't bet Murray or else you would have posted proof. You only managed to make yourself look like more of a fool by popping back in and acting like you went through with the fade bet.

Since you're supposedly fading us here, how about you post a screengrab of your Murray ticket BEFORE the match starts, to prove you're somethign other than just a scumf*ck of a troll?

[Fidel]

[QUOTE=Luca Fury;16374114] You obviously didn't bet Murray or else you would have posted proof.QUOTE]

You're a moron and everyone should know. Regardless if I bet or not, you're on a sportsbook forum that people go to for insightfull advice and youre spraying nonsense about revenge factors and gut feelings.

This was Feds first hard court tourney in over a month, maybe you shouldve started there.

Just keep up the good work Luca, Ill be keeping an eye out for your fade material.

[EaglesPhan36]

Can you guys go have your cat fight in another thread?

[EaglesPhan36]

Updated TI Fade Record: 2-4

For Monday, Jaziri is a potential play under these criteria. Will be waiting longer though. It is 5-0 for Ram, but that is a small # of tips.

[Fidel]

Can you guys go have your cat fight in another thread?

Sorry man, this is potentially the most insightful thread in SBR history. Although I have heard myths about the infamous Shari.

[EaglesPhan36]

Not going to push the Jaziri play into this tracking device unless a lot of tips come on it in the morning before the match. Still just 5-0 in favor or Ram, just not enough tips on it. I think it has to be double digits minimum to work into this project.

[Luca Fury]

You're a moron and everyone should know. Regardless if I bet or not, you're on a sportsbook forum that people go to for insightfull advice and youre spraying nonsense about revenge factors and gut feelings.

This was Feds first hard court tourney in over a month, maybe you shouldve started there.

Just keep up the good work Luca, Ill be keeping an eye out for your fade material.

Where did I ever say I was betting based on a gut feeling? I'd love for you to quote me since I've never made a bet in my life based on a gut feeling, nor have I claimed to. This will be the second time you've made a claim, then when asked for proof, fail to present any -- thus making yourself look like an even bigger retard.

And LOL again at you thinking motivation is meaningless.

[EaglesPhan36]

#7: ATP MOSCOW: JAZIRI -125

Going to go ahead and add this to the track. 11/14 now in favor of Ram, so that is a better sample size of tips.

[EaglesPhan36]

Jaziri rolled in straights.

[matt1216]

Jaziri rolled in straights.

Nice Pick EP!

[EaglesPhan36]

#8: ATP MOSCOW: KUZNETSOV -165
10/16 on Berlocq

[Luca Fury]

Once again, you ask the troll for proof and he runs away in shame. Too easy to shoot these fools down.

[Fidel]

Once again, you ask the troll for proof and he runs away in shame. Too easy to shoot these fools down.

Have some respect for the thread clown. You're only making it worse for yourself. You quoted your boy as to backup his statement. The proof is in the thread.

Why dont you go start your own thread and post your fade material. Then talk all the shit you want. Id actually like to hear more about the biased commentators. How does that story go?

[matt1216]

Have some respect for the thread clown. You're only making it worse for yourself. You quoted your boy as to backup his statement. The proof is in the thread.

Why dont you go start your own thread and post your fade material. Then talk all the shit you want. Id actually like to hear more about the biased commentators. How does that story go?

Fade Matierial?? come on dude, Just a bad night, let it go. Enough with the Trolling.

[EaglesPhan36]

#8: ATP MOSCOW: KUZNETSOV -165
17/25 on Berlocq

Updated #s.

#9: ATP STOCKHOLM: BERANKIS -170
11/16 on Ramos

[Luca Fury]

Have some respect for the thread clown. You're only making it worse for yourself. You quoted your boy as to backup his statement. The proof is in the thread.

Why dont you go start your own thread and post your fade material. Then talk all the shit you want. Id actually like to hear more about the biased commentators. How does that story go?

You've accused me of multiple things and I asked for evidence to backup up your claims. Then you disappeared. I then called you out and chimed back in by changing the subject and failed to provide evidence for your claims. Then, that whole scenario just happened again.

Any jackass like you on a forum can make false claims, so by running your mouth, you've accomplished nothing. Now, if there really was truth to what you're claiming, you would be able to provide proof. But you've provided nothing and instead just try and change the subject when confronted. You've been exposed as nothing more than a bitter troll.

Fade Matierial?? come on dude, Just a bad night, let it go. Enough with the Trolling.

I like how the guy claims to fade people, yet when you ask him to show proof of his bet ticket, he pretends like you never asked. Dude has been exposed on so many levels.

[shari91]

I think the only problem you might have with this is that by not seeing the comments you can't tell why the longer time posters there are tipping how they are. Sometimes people will say they're tipping the dog purely for TI $ because they're in the hole, they think the other player will win but can't stand them so they tip the dog, tipping a player from their own country, etc. But I'd be interested to see how this plays out in January when most of us start tipping there again and a bunch of new people buy 2 week memberships for the Aussie Open. That's when I think it'd level out to almost 50/50. Great thread EP!

[EaglesPhan36]

Fair enough. Still to my recollection more often than not ... The reasoning rarely made a difference in the outcome. Might be a strange karma thing or like I said maybe it just seems like more of the consensus dogs lose, but definitely something I should have tracked earlier this season. Again just for fun until anything is actually proven one way or another. Not advocating you blindly bet these by any means. Hope everyone understands that.

[EaglesPhan36]

Updated TI Fade Record: 4-5

Again, remember this is a TRACKING project. These are not necessarily plays that I condone or advise. I am simply tracking a theory. Will update with any more that fit the criteria, this one an obvious glaring one that fits.

#10: ATP MOSCOW: ITO -155
Kravchuk 13/13

[apeterlives]

Why do people like Kravchuk over Ito?

[Shifty107]

Because he plays well at home

[dww123]

This is a great contrarian thread. i hope you keep posting them!

[shimeon40]

money coming in for kravchuck..maybe russian mafia already leant on ito.

[shimeon40]

ito..hard work but got job done

[EaglesPhan36]

Going to add this, I think just enough tips to try adding it to the track.

#11: ATP MOSCOS: CIPOLLA -125
9/10 on Gabashvili

[Cappinpicks]

Lucky you didn't take mayer, tipsters had it right all the way going against the pathetic -230 loser... gave up as soon as berankis served with ease in 2nd set

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Dogs in men's tennis tend to do quite badly as a general rule.

Above 3.00 (+200), best of three, 2004+: 2266/12004, for -14.9% return.

[kobee24]

Great call with Cipolla Eagles, keep it comin!

[DoubleRedDragon]

In women's tennis dogs do well but in men's favorites tend to get the job done, correct?

[EaglesPhan36]

Updated TI Fade Record: 6-5

I don't have stats to support any theories on WTA dogs v. ATP dogs. I really think it varies week-to-week, tournament-to-tournament. I would think favorites do win a bit more with the men because there is a gap between the top tier of players and the next tier whereas the women almost seem interchangeable after the top 3-4 players from week-to-week.

Again for this tracking thread, the dogs I consider going against when they are consensus at TI won't be over +195 and even that is maybe a very high end inclusion. Most of the dogs I am looking at and have noticed that tend to flop on the consensus picks are between +105 & +160ish really.

[shimeon40]

Just seen results..donald young beat fognini ..fognini..number 1 criminal on latest tennis rankings.