If Credit Wagering keeps this up, they'll be out of business fast

[pimike]

They are not the real deal, they would have atleast a phone number if they were the real deal. If you meet a male or female at a bar and he or she ask you for your # and you say I dont have a phone #, in today's world, Im 95% or more sure your not gonna get taken seriously.

If she gives me money or sex who cares about a number as long as you get what you need.

I'm not dating CW

[THEGREAT30]

If she gives me money or sex who cares about a number as long as you get what you need.

I'm not dating CW

Yeah but the difference is you atleast see her face in the bar scenario. On the other hand, she could be a he in the online world. You could be getting those cards from the feds.

[pimike]

Yeah but the difference is you atleast see her face in the bar scenario. On the other hand, she could be a he in the online world. You could be getting those cards from the feds.

Seriously they sent many offshore gamblers introduction emails when they first started. That would not be the Feds doing.


Either don't play or try them and see for youself. Kinda silly to argue about something you have no idea of.

[THEGREAT30]

Seriously they sent many offshore gamblers introduction emails when they first started. That would not be the Feds doing.


Either don't play or try them and see for youself. Kinda silly to argue about something you have no idea of.

Ive heard to many negative things about these guys to play there, and Im not letting it go. Im simply here to provide the public with honesty. The first time someone came on this site saying they threatened there families they were a bunch of rogues that should all be lined up and murdered Hitler style to me. If they were the real deal they wouldnt have to stoop to things like that. Just because Kwame Brown got picked # 1 in the draft and payed a lot of money doesnt make him the real deal.

[pimike]

Ive heard to many negative things about these guys to play there, and Im not letting it go. Im simply here to provide the public with honesty. The first time someone came on this site saying they threatened there families they were a bunch of rogues that should all be lined up and murdered Hitler style to me. If they were the real deal they wouldnt have to stoop to things like that. Just because Kwame Brown got picked # 1 in the draft and payed a lot of money doesnt make him the real deal.

Just pay them, and move on. Its obvious you owe. Why else would you be so concerned?

[THEGREAT30]

Just pay them, and move on. Its obvious you owe. Why else would you be so concerned?

I dont owe them anything. Its obvious that you dont have any logical reasoning. Considering, if it is true that you live in Vegas why would you be dealing with any online sportsbook; nonetheless, a scam book like CW unless you are purely broke, or someone trying not to pay some taxes, or a affiliate, which in a startup scam such as CW, equals a co-owner? By the way, if I ever try to sign up it will be with a stolen id and phone # of a prominent person, and I will lose on purpose, let the dumb-asses bury thereselves.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I dont owe them anything. Its obvious that you dont have any logical reasoning. Considering, if it is true that you live in Vegas why would you be dealing with any online sportsbook; nonetheless, a scam book like CW unless you are purely broke, or someone trying not to pay some taxes, or a affiliate, which in a startup scam such as CW, equals a co-owner? By the way, if I ever try to sign up it will be with a stolen id and phone # of a prominent person, and I will lose on purpose, let the dumb-asses bury thereselves.

[William Lee]

Credit Wagering has the correct concept. Giving you a line of credit of $1000. BUT you need to roll it over 3 x's, thats $3000 worth of plays, before your first payout. Thats very tough to do. All bets are maxed at $100 too, so they are smart in doing it this way. Bottom line is, if you lose, you pay thats all. You win, you get paid. Helps not having to keep running to ** or ** to deposit. Their payout system is by far one of the best offshore today, bar none!
William Lee

[WestsidePete]

If she gives me money or sex who cares about a number as long as you get what you need.

I'm not dating CW

Interestly, a while back at a bar I met a chick with the initials of CW, now i didn't get her number either, but i was able to stick my cock in her mouth for a while and had a great time, lesson learned is sometimes you don't need a number from CW to get what you want...

[sb1384]

I dont owe them anything. Its obvious that you dont have any logical reasoning. Considering, if it is true that you live in Vegas why would you be dealing with any online sportsbook; nonetheless, a scam book like CW unless you are purely broke, or someone trying not to pay some taxes, or a affiliate, which in a startup scam such as CW, equals a co-owner? By the way, if I ever try to sign up it will be with a stolen id and phone # of a prominent person, and I will lose on purpose, let the dumb-asses bury thereselves.

this is getting to the point of being comical. relax bro. you're way too fixated on these guys. there are tons of threads on this board debating the relative strengths and weaknesses of this book (business model, collection tactics and viability). i can say personally that I DID bet with them over the summer. i blew through the thousand and paid via **. I then ran up a big (to me) balance and cashed out. still have an account but haven't played in months. i just couldn't get comfortable with the betting limits and weekly win-limits. for 2 or 3 weeks i always seemed to be at the point where i was up too big for the week and had to stop. then i had issues with having to keep posted up money in there for a certain period of time versus being able to cash out what i was up (period). anyway, the net net is -- i have experience with these guys; paid; was paid; spoke with ben, etc. i'm sure all the strong-arm collection stuff we hear on the board is legit, but -- they certainly "are what they are". until i hear of someone NOT getting paid, i would say these guys are just as ethical or unethical or legal or illegal as the rest of the industry. i do think the lack of a phone number thing is interesting though. this shop definitely feels like it's run out of the US. But, isn't 5Dimes for the most part too? Don't they have local runners for high net worth bettors. I've run into one and heard of others. One well known ex-CFB QB for one (if you know what I'm saying). Anyway, I guess what I'm getting at is -- stop fixating.

[THEGREAT30]

this is getting to the point of being comical. relax bro. you're way too fixated on these guys. there are tons of threads on this board debating the relative strengths and weaknesses of this book (business model, collection tactics and viability). i can say personally that I DID bet with them over the summer. i blew through the thousand and paid via **. I then ran up a big (to me) balance and cashed out. still have an account but haven't played in months. i just couldn't get comfortable with the betting limits and weekly win-limits. for 2 or 3 weeks i always seemed to be at the point where i was up too big for the week and had to stop. then i had issues with having to keep posted up money in there for a certain period of time versus being able to cash out what i was up (period). anyway, the net net is -- i have experience with these guys; paid; was paid; spoke with ben, etc. i'm sure all the strong-arm collection stuff we hear on the board is legit, but -- they certainly "are what they are". until i hear of someone NOT getting paid, i would say these guys are just as ethical or unethical or legal or illegal as the rest of the industry. i do think the lack of a phone number thing is interesting though. this shop definitely feels like it's run out of the US. But, isn't 5Dimes for the most part too? Don't they have local runners for high net worth bettors. I've run into one and heard of others. One well known ex-CFB QB for one (if you know what I'm saying). Anyway, I guess what I'm getting at is -- stop fixating.

Stop promoting this trash book. You have several post promoting them like I have several bashing them. I will continue to bash them everywhere I go, because they have bad business practices. The American citizens are now having to bail out idiotic banks who gave out credit cards to people who didnt deserve it, this is in know way a good business move on CW's part. I bash fast food restaraunts very often because they have bad service. I bash Micro Center and my credit card company because I paid for a item and they cancelled the order, but it took 15 days for them to take the hold off of my account. I dont have the type of respect for you that I would listen to anything you are saying or typing. You have been here for a shorter amount of time than I have and everyone that comes after me and takes up for these guys will be considered an affiliate co-owner.

[firedawg]

Stop promoting this trash book. You have several post promoting them like I have several bashing them. I will continue to bash them everywhere I go, because they have bad business practices. The American citizens are now having to bail out idiotic banks who gave out credit cards to people who didnt deserve it, this is in know way a good business move on CW's part. I bash fast food restaraunts very often because they have bad service. I bash Micro Center and my credit card company because I paid for a item and they cancelled the order, but it took 15 days for them to take the hold off of my account. I dont have the type of respect for you that I would listen to anything you are saying or typing. You have been here for a shorter amount of time than I have and everyone that comes after me and takes up for these guys will be considered an affiliate co-owner.

[sb1384]

Stop promoting this trash book. You have several post promoting them like I have several bashing them. I will continue to bash them everywhere I go, because they have bad business practices. The American citizens are now having to bail out idiotic banks who gave out credit cards to people who didnt deserve it, this is in know way a good business move on CW's part. I bash fast food restaraunts very often because they have bad service. I bash Micro Center and my credit card company because I paid for a item and they cancelled the order, but it took 15 days for them to take the hold off of my account. I dont have the type of respect for you that I would listen to anything you are saying or typing. You have been here for a shorter amount of time than I have and everyone that comes after me and takes up for these guys will be considered an affiliate co-owner.

you're crazy bro. if you review my thread history it's quite clear i was a sportsbook.com bettor that was waiting many many months for payment that tried out CW, used them successfully and do not use them now. to be 100% clear to anyone that thinks I am an affiliate -- I do not endorse CW. I don't. I do NOT recommend them. I think it's too difficult to use with the betting limits and win limits. Personally, I do not recommend ANY online sportsbook at this point for a US citizen. There are too many issues. I think the only viable option for US citizens (which I am) are local bookies or NV. PERIOD! So, "THEGREAT30", just so we are perfectly clear -- anyone on the board -- I do not recommend CW! I do not! Ok. With all that said, you need help dude.

[THEGREAT30]

you're crazy bro. if you review my thread history it's quite clear i was a sportsbook.com bettor that was waiting many many months for payment that tried out CW, used them successfully and do not use them now. to be 100% clear to anyone that thinks I am an affiliate -- I do not endorse CW. I don't. I do NOT recommend them. I think it's too difficult to use with the betting limits and win limits. Personally, I do not recommend ANY online sportsbook at this point for a US citizen. There are too many issues. I think the only viable option for US citizens (which I am) are local bookies or NV. PERIOD! So, "THEGREAT30", just so we are perfectly clear -- anyone on the board -- I do not recommend CW! I do not! Ok. With all that said, you need help dude.

That's your opinion about the help part, but I agree with you about the viable options for U.S. citizens. But its funny that I found a post of yours saying you love CW.

[Peep]

Firecracker,

Since you talked to Ben ask him why they don't have a phone listed?

Pavy, do you come with instructions to feed and water twice daily?

THE MAN IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL. HE DOES NOT WANT A NUMBER THAT CAN BE TRACED.

What is so complicated about that?

Either they pay or they don't. I don't give a shit about the rest. And you shouldn't either, unless you don't pay.

[firedawg]

this is getting old

[sb1384]

That's your opinion about the help part, but I agree with you about the viable options for U.S. citizens. But its funny that I found a post of yours saying you love CW.

i missed that last part of your message. to clarify, i did love my experience with CW, because i DID get paid extremely quickly. however, i stopped using them because i couldn't get comfortable with only being able to bet certain amounts (i think 400 was my limit when i stopped), and that whole weekly max win was BS, because i was finding myself in situations where it was like thursday and i couldn't bet anymore because if i won, i would have been over my limit. CW users may relate. it was frustrating that you were allowed to bet in a situation where if you won, it was over your win-limit, but if you lost, you lost. not sure if I'm explaining that right, but it sucked. then, if you found yourself up, big, you could "post that up", then there was like 30 day holds or something before you could cash out. so, you quickly get in situations where you exceed weekly win limits and then have buckets of your balance that are held for a month or so. However, within all those handcuffs, once you request a withdrawl, it was CRAZY STUPID quick. Anyway, just turned out to be more problems (for me personally), trying to operate within the model. But, it's certainly the most interesting book to me to watch from afar given all the questions about location, viability of business model, the stiffs, etc. For a sports bettor -- which I have been for 25 years -- this is like watching a movie. So interesting.

[roasthawg]

I finally met the $3000 rollover requirement for strictly credit players at CW and should be getting paid this week. I sent them out an email this morning and they replied within 5 minutes telling me my withdrawl would be processed on Wednesday. I'll pick a few of these CW threads and let you guys know if I get paid or not.

[LT Profits]

i missed that last part of your message. to clarify, i did love my experience with CW, because i DID get paid extremely quickly. however, i stopped using them because i couldn't get comfortable with only being able to bet certain amounts (i think 400 was my limit when i stopped), and that whole weekly max win was BS, because i was finding myself in situations where it was like thursday and i couldn't bet anymore because if i won, i would have been over my limit. CW users may relate. it was frustrating that you were allowed to bet in a situation where if you won, it was over your win-limit, but if you lost, you lost. not sure if I'm explaining that right, but it sucked. then, if you found yourself up, big, you could "post that up", then there was like 30 day holds or something before you could cash out. so, you quickly get in situations where you exceed weekly win limits and then have buckets of your balance that are held for a month or so. However, within all those handcuffs, once you request a withdrawl, it was CRAZY STUPID quick. Anyway, just turned out to be more problems (for me personally), trying to operate within the model. But, it's certainly the most interesting book to me to watch from afar given all the questions about location, viability of business model, the stiffs, etc. For a sports bettor -- which I have been for 25 years -- this is like watching a movie. So interesting.

Not a problem at all if you have other outs. Just keep max winning at CW and resume agaiin the following week. No need to kill a golden goose.

[firedawg]

I finally met the $3000 rollover requirement for strictly credit players at CW and should be getting paid this week. I sent them out an email this morning and they replied within 5 minutes telling me my withdrawl would be processed on Wednesday. I'll pick a few of these CW threads and let you guys know if I get paid or not.

you will be paid by 5 eastern thursday.

[roasthawg]

you will be paid by 5 eastern thursday.

I'll toast to that!!!

[Cloak & Dagger]

Pavy, do you come with instructions to feed and water twice daily?

THE MAN IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL. HE DOES NOT WANT A NUMBER THAT CAN BE TRACED.

What is so complicated about that?

Either they pay or they don't. I don't give a shit about the rest. And you shouldn't either, unless you don't pay.

[german74]

Some of you say they are legit - ok. I say they are trying to scam me on my winnings I made back in April. In April players from Germany were still allowed to play there. So in the onliest week I was able to play there I won a bot over 900 USD. A day later there was a message saying that my country was allowed to play there by mistake and they will contact me in ref to a wd within 48 hours (my country will be added in the following 90 days).
I contacted them by chat and was told that Germany will be added by June. So I decided to let my winnings stay in the account and play there again in June. It was June, Germany was still not added and I made a wd request. That request was declined. I asked them in the chat again why it was declined and I was told I ve to send in my docs. I did that and asked them again when Germany will be added. They told me by July. July - Germany was still not added. I asked again and was told of August. August - chat with Ben - September for sure. September - was told of some small problems - within the next two week. WD request - declined. October - this months for sure. This week I made another wd request but checked it in the chat first. The operator told me I have to contact cashier and they will inform me about a payment solution. So I contacted them and received the following replies:
1. We will start accepting customers from Germany after the first of the
year. We are finishing up another funding option first!

2. You cant withdraw any funds until we do business in your area

3. You can not withdraw funds until we do business in your area, like you
have been told before!

Then they told me that I had the chance to wd in April (I tried that but it was declined and then I was told they offer their service in June, July etc...).

4. We did and you did not settle back then!

They are basically blaming me now. They never sent me an email or offered me any payment. Now they say that I had the chance to ask for my funds (what I tried to) and say that I won`t get paid until at least January.

What kind of business is that? They say that they are legit but want me to wait for 9 months or so for a lousy 900 USD payment. I thought they stand to their word and pay any customer who has a positive balance. If they stand to their word they should pay me by moneygram or moneybookers. This is a really sad story.

> Any customer who has a balance of $400 or more after all wagers are
> >> complete April 21st 2008, will be contacted by email within the
> >> next 48 hours and we will make arrangements to send them their
> >> winnings.

[Peep]

In April players from Germany were still allowed to play there. So in the onliest week I was able to play there I won a bot over 900 USD.

Good post. If they let you bet, as in approved you opening an account, I agree you should get paid.

Fill out a complaint form here, let's see what SBR finds out.

A lot of people are just DYING to get some dirt on this book.

[THEGREAT30]

Good post. If they let you bet, as in approved you opening an account, I agree you should get paid.

Fill out a complaint form here, let's see what SBR finds out.

A lot of people are just DYING to get some dirt on this book.

There is a lot of dirt on them. It's just being written off as unfounded by people that claim to have inside knowledge of the industry.

[LT Profits]

Nothing to do with inside knowledge, it's the fact that they always pay (well, at least to North American customers). That is all anyone could ask for, and as long as they continue to do so, I frankly don't care if they are operating from around the corner from me.

[THEGREAT30]

Nothing to do with inside knowledge, it's the fact that they always pay (well, at least to North American customers). That is all anyone could ask for, and as long as they continue to do so, I frankly don't care if they are operating from around the corner from me.

So, do you know every North American customer? No. Futhermore, today it will be they always pay North American customers. The next day it will be they always pay everyone I know. When that stops, it will be they always pay me. Me, me, me. Quick to disregard another persons experience.

[LT Profits]

Look they have no pending payout disputes from anyone from a country that is not banned there now, so what exactly is your problem? The last thing I want is for CW to go down because they have become very valuable to me, as well as to anyone else that does some serious line shopping. Why kill the golden goose? Makes no sense.

[Willie Bee]

LT, you'll have more luck explaining advanced physics to one of your kids than debating CW with great30.

[THEGREAT30]

Look they have no pending payout disputes from anyone from a country that is not banned there now, so what exactly is your problem? The last thing I want is for CW to go down because they have become very valuable to me, as well as to anyone else that does some serious line shopping. Why kill the golden goose? Makes no sense.

What? No pending disputes from a country not banned there. I dont understand the logic. CW is not licensed to operate anywhere. Meaning they dont have a license. They reportedly use threats when trying to collect and have bad customer service. Why try to take a professional stance when it comes to this one thing? Could it simply be they do what's in their best interest. What happens when they get that 100,000 in post ups and decide to take off?

[THEGREAT30]

One question then i will never post on cw again. If they are so legit why are they a D?

[LT Profits]

What? No pending disputes from a country not banned there. I dont understand the logic. CW is not licensed to operate anywhere. Meaning they dont have a license. They reportedly use threats when trying to collect and have bad customer service. Why try to take a professional stance when it comes to this one thing? Could it simply be they do what's in their best interest. What happens when they get that 100,000 in post ups and decide to take off?

Their customer service has been OUTSTANDING with me, their use of "threats" has been greatly exaggerated, and nothing else is relavent as long as they keep paying in a timely manner. Again, I have won there often and don't want to see them fail.

[LT Profits]

One question then i will never post on cw again. If they are so legit why are they a D?

Because they just entered the ratings a few months ago. It may take a year before they are upgraded. and I expect that to happen too (i.e., be around in a year and have grading bumped).

[BrianLaverty]

I don't have an opinion about CW one way or another... why bother with a site like this when there are sites like the greek or betjamaica that have been around for years and there is about a 0.001% chance of them stealing your money?

But it is very suspicious when there are about 20 people that have just joined in every CW post on here. Even people with 4000+ posts who are defending them only joined in March, which was around the time CW started making noise. Its all very suspicious to me.

[firedawg]

One question then i will never post on cw again. If they are so legit why are they a D?

There is your answer great30 now keep your word and never post about cw again you stiff.