Would any of the big bookmakers ban or limit bets if you keep on winning?

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  • jones24
    SBR Hustler
    • 08-29-11
    • 72

    #1
    Would any of the big bookmakers ban or limit bets if you keep on winning?
    You know good ones like Bet365, ladbrokes and so on.

    Suppose you have a winning rate of say 90% and up will they limit your bets or in short play some tricks to stop you from winning so much?
  • jgilmartin
    SBR MVP
    • 03-31-09
    • 1119

    #2
    Yep.
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    • brankica023
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-27-11
      • 131

      #3
      I am banned at both and have about 65% and only win about 800$ in both,so they ll limit you fast if you ll have 90%.
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      • offshoregenius77
        SBR High Roller
        • 05-26-08
        • 154

        #4
        Originally posted by jones24
        You know good ones like Bet365, ladbrokes and so on.

        Suppose you have a winning rate of say 90% and up will they limit your bets or in short play some tricks to stop you from winning so much?
        If you hit 55% or more consistently... You are done!
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        • offshoregenius77
          SBR High Roller
          • 05-26-08
          • 154

          #5
          Originally posted by jones24
          You know good ones like Bet365, ladbrokes and so on.

          Suppose you have a winning rate of say 90% and up will they limit your bets or in short play some tricks to stop you from winning so much?
          You should just go with Pinny... BTW , you wont hit 90%
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          • sportstrader88
            SBR Hustler
            • 04-21-11
            • 62

            #6
            Yes in a heartbeat. The mighty bet365 limited me to just $5 bets in a matter of days.
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            • slash
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-05
              • 1000

              #7
              Good old VIP kicked me out about 1 minute after I placed my first bet.
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              • gangeriver
                SBR MVP
                • 12-23-09
                • 2138

                #8
                if you win b2b, most euro books limit your bets. sometimes push your bets or kick you. for example bwin does. but this scammer book has still "C" raiting. strange
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                • Ruifgalmeida
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-23-08
                  • 2024

                  #9
                  they will limit you but they will pay no matter what, so enjoy the ride play untill you get limit
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                  • jones24
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 08-29-11
                    • 72

                    #10
                    Therefore it's correct to say you won't get rich out of betting.
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                    • jones24
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 08-29-11
                      • 72

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sportstrader88
                      Yes in a heartbeat. The mighty bet365 limited me to just $5 bets in a matter of days.

                      oic just curious how much did you win to get limited to just $5 bets?
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                      • jones24
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 08-29-11
                        • 72

                        #12
                        Originally posted by brankica023
                        I am banned at both and have about 65% and only win about 800$ in both,so they ll limit you fast if you ll have 90%.
                        I have won 800 bucks at 365 before by putting in around i think 500 as stakes but i was allowed to continue betting. Oh yes i lost quite a sum subsequently and my betting wasn't very good at all. Did you know i actually staked 1k to win 166 bucks at the beginning. I suppose they saw my betting methods and knew i wasn't risky to have as member since in the long run i would be giving them money instead.
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                        • Maniac
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-12-11
                          • 667

                          #13
                          Thats the thing - its not always a matter of someone winning that will cause them to be limited, but it seems to be judged often on a particular players betting patterns in many cases, and not necessarily on whether they have won or lost.

                          I have seen a couple of cases on various forums about people betting arbs, yet still being limited even if they are losing overall...
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                          • jones24
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 08-29-11
                            • 72

                            #14
                            I guess the question i need to ask is has anyone made some serious money or a steady income from sports betting.
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                            • Hareeba!
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-01-06
                              • 37231

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jones24
                              I guess the question i need to ask is has anyone made some serious money or a steady income from sports betting.
                              of course they have
                              several posters in this forum do it for a living
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                              • jones24
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 08-29-11
                                • 72

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                of course they have
                                several posters in this forum do it for a living

                                I'm a newbie here and i'm not a constant poster but pls can you name them. I just hope to learn something from them.
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jones24
                                  I'm a newbie here and i'm not a constant poster but pls can you name them. I just hope to learn something from them.
                                  I don't think that would be appropriate.
                                  In any event they wouldn't be disclosing trade secrets in an open forum.
                                  However if you are truly interested in learning and prepared to put in the time and effort there is no shortage of good information on this and other sites and available via Google searches.
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                                  • FourLengthsClear
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-29-10
                                    • 3808

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jones24
                                    oic just curious how much did you win to get limited to just $5 bets?
                                    It is not really a question of how much you win but what you are betting on.

                                    If you win a few thousand betting bog standard lines/odds, they are unlikely to collar you.

                                    Even if you lose but are betting on events and odds that are deemed -EV (for the book) pretty much all of the big Euro books will limit you before you get the chance to beat them.
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                                    • jones24
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 08-29-11
                                      • 72

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                      It is not really a question of how much you win but what you are betting on. If you win a few thousand betting bog standard lines/odds, they are unlikely to collar you. Even if you lose but are betting on events and odds that are deemed -EV (for the book) pretty much all of the big Euro books will limit you before you get the chance to beat them.
                                      I see but i really apologise i don't get what you mean by -EV. Do you have any idea what events and odds that might be?
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                                      • FourLengthsClear
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-29-10
                                        • 3808

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jones24
                                        I see but i really apologise i don't get what you mean by -EV. Do you have any idea what events and odds that might be?
                                        An example would be in CBB tonight.
                                        The market total this morning was 114, it has since increased to 117.

                                        For about half an hour after Pinnacle (and most other books) had adjusted their total from 114 to 116, you could still bet with Bet365 over 114 at -110 which would have given you a substantial edge.
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                                        • jones24
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 08-29-11
                                          • 72

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                          An example would be in CBB tonight. The market total this morning was 114, it has since increased to 117. For about half an hour after Pinnacle (and most other books) had adjusted their total from 114 to 116, you could still bet with Bet365 over 114 at -110 which would have given you a substantial edge.
                                          is this for the stock market?
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                                          • Hareeba!
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                                            • 07-01-06
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jones24
                                            is this for the stock market?
                                            they were the odds on a college basketball game
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                              • 12-06-08
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                                              #23
                                              Trust worthy runners...........................
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                                              • jones24
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 08-29-11
                                                • 72

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                they were the odds on a college basketball game
                                                I sound like a total idiot but i don't even know what he's saying. is that on basketball points scored? I don't think b-ball games go into the hundreds nowadays right?
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                                                • shari91
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                                                  • 02-23-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jones24

                                                  I sound like a total idiot but i don't even know what he's saying. is that on basketball points scored? I don't think b-ball games go into the hundreds nowadays right?
                                                  When you're betting a college total, the number = the total points both teams score, including all the points scored in overtime.

                                                  If you just want to bet on how many points one team will score, you can bet the team total instead, if your sportsbook offers it (usually abbreviated on the forum as TT).
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                                                  • Hareeba!
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                                                    • 07-01-06
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jones24
                                                    I sound like a total idiot but i don't even know what he's saying. is that on basketball points scored? I don't think b-ball games go into the hundreds nowadays right?
                                                    It would be betting on the total points scored in the game I assumed.

                                                    To be perfectly honest though I don't follow the college games at all and wouldn't know about the scoring range. But for NBA I know that would be only in the range of a half game total so maybe the college game doesn't run as long? Or perhaps it was a single team's total he was quoting. But it doesn't really matter to the point he was making.
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                                                    • pepero428
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-21-12
                                                      • 568

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                                      It is not really a question of how much you win but what you are betting on.

                                                      If you win a few thousand betting bog standard lines/odds, they are unlikely to collar you.

                                                      Even if you lose but are betting on events and odds that are deemed -EV (for the book) pretty much all of the big Euro books will limit you before you get the chance to beat them.
                                                      would lines immediately released not be considered standard lines/odds, and give books reason to ban you? what about lines like an hour or half an hour before event, would those be considered standard lines/odds?
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                                                      • wrongturn
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-06-06
                                                        • 2228

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pepero428
                                                        would lines immediately released not be considered standard lines/odds, and give books reason to ban you? what about lines like an hour or half an hour before event, would those be considered standard lines/odds?
                                                        Not timing of bets but the price of bets is the major reason. If you consistently bet at price much better, if not the best, among general market at time being, or soon after, you will be noticed.
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                                                        • Monte
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                                                          • 08-21-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jones24
                                                          You know good ones like Bet365, ladbrokes and so on.
                                                          You almost made me laugh..but only almost, it's sad that these pseudo books are rated high by anyone
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                                                          • bigugly
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                                                            • 01-04-08
                                                            • 1329

                                                            #30
                                                            He's either a troll or has a lot to learn.
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                                                            • hobpro
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 02-02-12
                                                              • 6

                                                              #31
                                                              Wow thot it was just me. Northbet lowered my wagers on 6 pt football teasers then screwed me around on payouts. went to 5d and after getting lucky with 4.5 cbb teasers they did the same. Didnt restrict on non-teaser bets though only what i was winning on-teasers.
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                                                              • BadAzz
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 324

                                                                #32
                                                                If you want be making money for a longer run you go to Pinnacle, Betfair and Matchy. There you will not face personal limits. Pinnacle will kick you out eventually I've heard but only if you bet on obvious bad lines, which you do not want to do anywhere. The only minor problem with these three outs is that they are way more difficult to beat than your regular Bet365/LadBrokes/WillHill/SIA types.

                                                                Or you choose hit run for a little while and bet on all of these square books as long as you can and then move on. It will take from a couple of days to couple of months until you get booted/limited to unusable amounts. Limiting is not much about you winning, it is about you betting the same lines as half million other arbers or you betting on the late moving line on a slow book.
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