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  • conper
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-27-10
    • 106

    #1
    Can we beat live beting ?
    Lets say i am at the stadium in Greece and have my laptop and i have the bet ready which game to score and press it when they score. Will i beat the live booking (eg bet365) ??? .
    Because I dont think they have people in all the stadiums that have live betting . Iguess they watch it by sattelite and we know satellites signals delay.
    Note i am not talking for famous teams or countries

    have anyone done it ?
  • King_Suckerman
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-12-09
    • 945

    #2
    Depends on the book...but yes of course it can be done.
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    • conper
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-27-10
      • 106

      #3
      Anyone knows which bettings companies delay ?
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      • pjesnik24
        Restricted User
        • 11-01-05
        • 1286

        #4
        Originally posted by conper
        Anyone knows which bettings companies delay ?
        anyone know how to earn a million in 20 minutes? or, even better, in 10 minutes 5 millions?
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        • bigboydan
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-10-05
          • 55420

          #5
          I'm not going to answer this question in regards to what books have delays on such things however, I do recall one particular incident involving a few Russian gentlemen who were placing wagers of this nature at a tennis match a way back in the day. Needless to say that didn't workout to well for them. My advice would be not even to attempt it sir.
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          • conper
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-27-10
            • 106

            #6
            i am not talking about tennis . You are at the stadium somewhere in Cyprus and there is goal . It takes up to 5-7 seconds to see the goal on the tv . So there is time to bet . Bet365 change the price when team is near to score so you can delay you . The question is does Bet365 have people in the Cyprus stadium ?
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            • Monte
              SBR MVP
              • 08-21-10
              • 2056

              #7
              You are talking about beating Bet3.65, which is funny on it's own no matter what the subject actually is.
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              • conper
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-27-10
                • 106

                #8
                i am just saying how bet365 works . I didnt said to beat bet365 but some other companies
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                • DiggityDaggityDo
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-30-08
                  • 81450

                  #9
                  You will get caught, son.
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                  • C.S.
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 237

                    #10
                    IMO, you can beat live betting even without cheating.
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                    • 5mike5
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-21-11
                      • 51995

                      #11
                      not to mention live wagering is usually only done on tv games during commercial breaks....be very hard to beat those type of "live" wagering
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                      • Maniac
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-12-11
                        • 667

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 5mike5
                        not to mention live wagering is usually only done on tv games during commercial breaks....be very hard to beat those type of "live" wagering
                        Not with a lot of euro books, and especially on soccer, you are able to bet pretty much right throughout the game.

                        You may get away with this for a couple of bets, but books do pay close attention to anyone betting within a few seconds of major incidents happening (like goals!) and it wont take them long to suss you out and limit you/void bets etc
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                        • Hareeba!
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 07-01-06
                          • 37215

                          #13
                          you'll probably get your bet on but the book will check the timestamp against the official scoring time and void your bet, even boot you for trying it on

                          however, it may be possible to do it and get away with it on an exchange such as Betfair if you are super quick but I think they have something like a 5 second delay on live betting?
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                          • Toit
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 03-10-09
                            • 451

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hareeba!

                            however, it may be possible to do it and get away with it on an exchange such as Betfair if you are super quick but I think they have something like a 5 second delay on live betting?
                            5 seconds maybe on Premier League, Greek games will have a delay of 8 seconds if in play.
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                            • acw
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-29-05
                              • 576

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Toit
                              5 seconds maybe on Premier League, Greek games will have a delay of 8 seconds if in play.
                              Another reason not to bet with BetFair.

                              Asian books have their own staff in the stadiums of all live matches.
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 37215

                                #16
                                Originally posted by acw
                                Another reason not to bet with BetFair.
                                try telling the hundreds of live traders who make more than a good living doing it
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                                • big joe 1212
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-01-08
                                  • 19380

                                  #17
                                  they may not pay you when you win

                                  I'm sure they would figure out what you are doing

                                  Geez..every time this guy makes a bet, they score seconds later....

                                  you risk having all your funds taken
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                                  • Bongo
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-22-11
                                    • 134

                                    #18
                                    Greed always gets the players caught.
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                                    • spider
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-21-11
                                      • 11378

                                      #19
                                      all books have time delays on live betting. they don't need people at stadiums.
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                                      • Jontheman
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 09-09-08
                                        • 139

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by acw

                                        Asian books have their own staff in the stadiums of all live matches.
                                        That is quite clearly bollocks.
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                                        • Pat McCrotch
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-08-11
                                          • 814

                                          #21
                                          it can be done , just look at betfair and watch a tennis match,

                                          the price changes maybe 10 seconds before live pictures

                                          this is courtsiders.
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                                          • gangeriver
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-23-09
                                            • 2138

                                            #22
                                            conper,

                                            maybe 6-8 years ago it was possible with your method
                                            some of companies work for books. these companies prepare the live odds and sell to different books. maybe you detected that a lot of books offer same odds at the same moment because they take the odds from same company. these companies have a staff for each stadium (or where has a in-play game). maybe you are sitting side by side
                                            they don't watch by satellite euro games. but that is right for US sports games.a few days ago I made some money in SF Giants game. (that is different story.I guessed that will be a hit when ball on the air)

                                            bet365 is not so easy place to beat. they(I mean their suppliers company) changes the odds so rapidly and well. offsidebet and 10bet are more easly places to make money.I often take bets from live euro baseketball market.generally I use the match stats and I watch the game.sometimes I find so easy quarter(current quarter) bets if there is a unsportmanlike/technichal/clear path foul or if each team have 5 five fouls.

                                            I recommed you;

                                            -don't use bet365. use a smaller book.should change slowly
                                            -if you want to go the game place, prefer basketball games in my opinion.
                                            -if you stay in home, you may try your change on US sports.both side (you and they) watch by sattelite.If you know someting about MLB you can make money, I may recommend you a book(rules etc...it seems you are european and probably %99,99 european people know nothing about it)
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                                            • shebay
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 03-19-19
                                              • 2

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by conper
                                              i am not talking about tennis . You are at the stadium somewhere in Cyprus and there is goal . It takes up to 5-7 seconds to see the goal on the tv . So there is time to bet . Bet365 change the price when team is near to score so you can delay you . The question is does Bet365 have people in the Cyprus stadium ?
                                              Hello conper, have you been able to figure out bookies that can allow you do this?
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61461

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by shebay

                                                Hello conper, have you been able to figure out bookies that can allow you do this?
                                                This thread is 8 years old and what he suggested could not be done then.

                                                And still won't work now.
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #25
                                                  lol this is one funny ass thread. Was the OP 18 years old when making this thread? Dumbest thing I've heard in quite some time.
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                                                  • shebay
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 03-19-19
                                                    • 2

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    This thread is 8 years old and what he suggested could not be done then.

                                                    And still won't work now.
                                                    You might be wrong my friend, i have also been making researches on the latency for quite some time now and i think its quite possible.
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61461

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by shebay

                                                      You might be wrong my friend, i have also been making researches on the latency for quite some time now and i think its quite possible.
                                                      Sure, it's possible technically.

                                                      But you won't last more than 2 or 3 winning live bets placed super late even on the slowest most under staffed live betting platform these days. You will be profiled as using a fast feed or being live at the match.

                                                      Plus most books pay for an "incident feed" which comes from companies that employ people to attend matches and input what happens in real time. And then go back and cancel bets made after the moment the incident feed says it occurred. So even if you do get the bet in fast enough, it will be after the time the goal or whatever happens anyway and subject to possible later cancellation.
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                                                      • Motorhead11
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 09-04-18
                                                        • 238

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by conper
                                                        i am not talking about tennis . You are at the stadium somewhere in Cyprus and there is goal . It takes up to 5-7 seconds to see the goal on the tv . So there is time to bet . Bet365 change the price when team is near to score so you can delay you . The question is does Bet365 have people in the Cyprus stadium ?
                                                        In short, yes they have rball guys in 2nd division Cyprus matches as well. Even in women basketball games they have rball guys. They are not idiots obviously. How they could otherwise since most games are not streamed on TV.
                                                        Last edited by Motorhead11; 03-19-19, 07:45 AM.
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                                                        • Krzysztof
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 07-31-19
                                                          • 1

                                                          #29
                                                          Did you won a money with this method ? Sorry for my Lang.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Motorhead11
                                                            In short, yes they have rball guys in 2nd division Cyprus matches as well. Even in women basketball games they have rball guys. They are not idiots obviously. How they could otherwise since most games are not streamed on TV.
                                                            there is a live feed for pretty much every bettable game... go to jazz sports, right now there are 77 events streaming, including badminton/table tennis/snooker... some of these events the people setting up cameras are the only spectators
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                                                            • cashin81
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-10-14
                                                              • 12946

                                                              #31
                                                              reminds me of this

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