BetIslands

[midnight777]

they are a good book.. I would say they are a B.... John is a stand up guy. Will SBR doubt that!!!! or do they have to advertise here... To say they are a B or less is bs...just saying!!! I know they are better than JustBet!!!!

[PD77]

They have been cold calling me for a few weeks now. Not sure how they got my number but that is a big minus in my book. I know it is them because I get an email IMMEDIATELY after I dont answer the 1(877)777-7777 number EVERY single time. Ryan @ Betislands. This is way to similar to Easystreet and youwager IMO. We will give you $50 to try out the site. BS, keep your $50 and leave me the hell alone.

[Betislands]

Hi SBR,

Thanks to all for your feedback.

Coldcalling is a common way of marketing in this business if you don't want to receive calls from us just contact us and we will put you in a do not call list and we will contact you via email in the future.

I appreciate the support from all you guys and again if there is anything i can do , you know were to find me keep the feedback coming I take note .

Cheers,

Jon

[michael777]

betislands,just a suggestion,you need to add more racetracks,such as hollywood park,emerald downs,charlestown,lone star,mountaineer,remington,

[JerseyLove]

You need to lower you're limits

[djefferis]

add more tracks, tri/super betting and a rebate on weekly loss would all be nice..understandably horses arent your bread and butter moneymaker...

even better yet, dime superfecta's and quarter tri's..its been a rough couple of weeks there

[Bill Dozer]

My pick for sleeper book of the year. Each year a different book seems to fit this spot. Books that are positioning themselves for a run up the ladder. After that run, of one or maybe two years, most of them tend to taper off (somehow that final stretch is really hard for most books). Nice to have a C- book that looks like it's ready to make some waves; suggesting that SBR posters were quicker to recognize the book's value than SBR.

Posters know of BetIslands because mgt is marketing to the same Wagerchief customers they got when they did those nice contests for us. Also, because of borderline shills like Kmarin who are posting because they want to help advertise BI instead of giving natural feedback.

Value is great when it's sustainable but can be a sign of caution. Guys only know what they are getting when they make a bet. No Juice Sports had value. I do think Jon knows what he's doing and he is a quality book manager. Offering a lot out of the gate to a vocal group to get the name out can be smart.

they are a good book.. I would say they are a B.... John is a stand up guy. Will SBR doubt that!!!! or do they have to advertise here... To say they are a B or less is bs...just saying!!! I know they are better than JustBet!!!!

Right now we know BI uses the services of a slow-pay sportsbook and has an owner is someone we aren't familiar with yet. That party is what matters when you hit your 8 teamer. The reason BI opened in the C's is because of Jon being there and what he's told us. He is a quality book manager. CS will be good. Building up some business outside this board, some good history, and learning more about the folks involved will mean upgrades for BetIslands.

[robmpink]

betislands,just a suggestion,you need to add more racetracks,such as hollywood park,emerald downs,charlestown,lone star,mountaineer,remington,

Michael,
Do you see the payout caps for racing? You are privy in betting horses, so how could you do well with this caps they have?

[dark star]

They said they wanted to market their product model to Heritage.If thats the case every one receiving cold calls (including me) should receive $500 cash.That is a Heritage promotion:If we call(bother) you will we will pay you for your inconvenience.They call WAY too much

[cyberinvestor]

I am rooting for BetIslands. I think if they can continue the service and efforts they are putting forth now (especially the same day payouts) a year or two years from now they could be a solid book. Everyone is moving way too fast on the ratings though.

We need to see someone (not a shill) hit a major parlay or something and get paid without issue or delay. I want to see someone who gets a $50,000 payout handled with the same speed as a $500 payout.

We need to see more than just two months in full operation to assess the quality and consistency in performance.

We need them to expand withdrawal options to allow for more methods beyond those on their site.

I hope they do well and if they can do the above and keep all this up a year from now, then they deserve to be boosted to a B- rating. SBR ratings are a slow process. You need to be time tested, in a lot of different criteria, before you can sit next to an A or B class book. Just because people are getting paid fast doesn't mean they should carry a rating that Pinnacle carries. To say BetIslands deserves an A or B rating right now is extremely premature. I stress that I hope they get it because it would be nice to have a player friendly book like they are right now. A book with good limits, fast payouts, and great customer service. Almost too good to be true which is why we need to watch and test. I hope however that they are for real! They have impressed me thus far and I will definitely be playing soon with them.

[robmpink]

They said they wanted to market their product model to Heritage.If thats the case every one receiving cold calls (including me) should receive $500 cash.That is a Heritage promotion:If we call(bother) you will we will pay you for your inconvenience.They call WAY too much

You have done lost your mind.

[bizzle66]

IF you call the wagering number you can place a wager at most of the racetracks including Hollywood Park

[dark star]

You have done lost your mind.

Oh really...do fill me in brain surgeon

[Dark Horse]

Posters know of BetIslands because mgt is marketing to the same Wagerchief customers they got when they did those nice contests for us. Also, because of borderline shills like Kmarin who are posting because they want to help advertise BI instead of giving natural feedback.

Value is great when it's sustainable but can be a sign of caution. Guys only know what they are getting when they make a bet. No Juice Sports had value. I do think Jon knows what he's doing and he is a quality book manager. Offering a lot out of the gate to a vocal group to get the name out can be smart.

In your initial rating (C-) did you consider that Jon started and owned Wagerchief, then joined the Betphoenix family, and decided to walk away from his own creation and start anew because of things going on in the BP family? Why would he do that? And who would do that? Integrity goes a long way in this business, and the C- rating, just a notch above D books, does not seem to reflect it in this case. (the BP family looks like a total mess at this point).

How deep are the pockets at BetIslands? That's the question. C- suggests not very deep. What is that assessment based on? Hard facts? Asking, because a more typical opening rating might have been C. If you opened at C-, you really made a determination that C would be too high. What was the reason?

[Jerm3462]

I don't play at BetIslands, but my friend does.

I was over his crib Friday, and I was checking BetIslands out.

He loves BetIslands

My friend was live chatting and the customer service was awesome.

They even had lines/wager types that my book, 5dimes didnt have. I was impressed.

But the big question.....How will the payout go? (We will see soon I guess)

[JerseyLove]

In your initial rating (C-) did you consider that Jon started and owned Wagerchief, then joined the Betphoenix family, and decided to walk away from his own creation and start anew because of things going on in the BP family? Why would he do that? And who would do that? Integrity goes a long way in this business, and the C- rating, just a notch above D books, does not seem to reflect it in this case. (the BP family looks like a total mess at this point).

How deep are the pockets at BetIslands? That's the question. C- suggests not very deep. What is that assessment based on? Hard facts? Asking, because a more typical opening rating might have been C. If you opened at C-, you really made a determination that C would be too high. What was the reason?

Exactly. Everyone is pumped because customer service is great and they give you a free play. Thats the oly reason why. I would say betjamaica is 100 times better and have pockets 100 times deeper then bet islands!

[Bill Dozer]

In your initial rating (C-) did you consider that Jon started and owned Wagerchief, then joined the Betphoenix family, and decided to walk away from his own creation and start anew because of things going on in the BP family? Why would he do that? And who would do that? Integrity goes a long way in this business, and the C- rating, just a notch above D books, does not seem to reflect it in this case. (the BP family looks like a total mess at this point).

How deep are the pockets at BetIslands? That's the question. C- suggests not very deep. What is that assessment based on? Hard facts? Asking, because a more typical opening rating might have been C. If you opened at C-, you really made a determination that C would be too high. What was the reason?

Not sure you read my whole post...If Jon owned WC or BI wholly they would be rated more than one notch higher.

[notsosharp]

this is a good book that will pay.

[Betislands]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback and the constructive criticism.

Like I mentioned previously in another thread our SBR rating is C- and I respect it , my track record with players has been good but now I have to prove myself with Betislands , and only time and payouts will tell . All I can do is assure players and SBR that I will continue to do my best and providing good service.

And yes I do want to follow a model were CS and client satisfaction is what the business is built upon , like I said I am always open to suggestions.

As far as the min bet goes that will change shortly I will keep you all posted.


Cheers

Jon

[pimike]

Posters know of BetIslands because mgt is marketing to the same Wagerchief customers they got when they did those nice contests for us. Also, because of borderline shills like Kmarin who are posting because they want to help advertise BI instead of giving natural feedback.

Value is great when it's sustainable but can be a sign of caution. Guys only know what they are getting when they make a bet. No Juice Sports had value. I do think Jon knows what he's doing and he is a quality book manager. Offering a lot out of the gate to a vocal group to get the name out can be smart.



Right now we know BI uses the services of a slow-pay sportsbook and has an owner is someone we aren't familiar with yet. That party is what matters when you hit your 8 teamer. The reason BI opened in the C's is because of Jon being there and what he's told us. He is a quality book manager. CS will be good. Building up some business outside this board, some good history, and learning more about the folks involved will mean upgrades for BetIslands.

Good post

[kmarinouofm]

bill .. really a shill?

i been on this site for a while now.. and all of a sudden i get the shill label handed down to me.. gee thanks ..

i guess that is why my account is all messed up now? i can't search my post.. the site is slow as hell.. i figured you guys put some type of block on me.. i even emailed lou about it twice and he acted all coy..

why am i a shill? because i speak the truth.. i am happy for those guys.. they managed my account for 2 years at phoenix.. if i ever had a problem.. they took care of it.. even in the end when shit was bad there.. they were the only reason why i played there.. they ventured off and did there own thing.. why wouldn't i support them? they were always there for me... its not like i am lying.. i played.. i won.. i got paid..

Are you mad at me because it isn't a sponsor? Aren't these the stories we are supposed to be telling on this forum? Both positive and negative experiences.. so why can't i share mine without being a shill?

Bill aren't you a shill? Isn't that list of sponsors on the top here the books you "shill" for ? What makes you the authority? Your experience? Well that is what is all i am simply sharing.. if people have negative feedback.. it will be posted here no? this is a forum right? the truth will come out no ?

i have never received any compensation or favorable treatment at any book period nor have i ever worked for any book in any way shape or form..

to call me a borderline shill is a slap in the face.. i am speaking on behalf of my personal experience.. As countless others do on this forum.. both good and bad..


you owe me an apology.. someone with your status should show a little bit more class then that.. you could have at least emailed me.. or called me.. as i have talked to you on the phone before..

[kmarinouofm]

I am rooting for BetIslands. I think if they can continue the service and efforts they are putting forth now (especially the same day payouts) a year or two years from now they could be a solid book. Everyone is moving way too fast on the ratings though.

We need to see someone (not a shill) hit a major parlay or something and get paid without issue or delay. I want to see someone who gets a $50,000 payout handled with the same speed as a $500 payout.

We need to see more than just two months in full operation to assess the quality and consistency in performance.

We need them to expand withdrawal options to allow for more methods beyond those on their site.

I hope they do well and if they can do the above and keep all this up a year from now, then they deserve to be boosted to a B- rating. SBR ratings are a slow process. You need to be time tested, in a lot of different criteria, before you can sit next to an A or B class book. Just because people are getting paid fast doesn't mean they should carry a rating that Pinnacle carries. To say BetIslands deserves an A or B rating right now is extremely premature. I stress that I hope they get it because it would be nice to have a player friendly book like they are right now. A book with good limits, fast payouts, and great customer service. Almost too good to be true which is why we need to watch and test. I hope however that they are for real! They have impressed me thus far and I will definitely be playing soon with them.

exactly the point i was trying to make.. not saying they are the end all be all.. but right now.. things are good.. so maybe give them a shot take advantage of a deposit bonus

are they establish like the greek or 5 dimes.. or someone like that .. no.. not at all.. if you like their cs.. you will stay.. if you don't.. u will leave.. that's the story behind every book in my experience..

i have been very impressed with what they have offered out the gate.. i mean they still manage to put 2nd half lines in NBA faster then Pinny does.. thats amazing.. i dont care who u are.. ..

probably be the last time i even comment on this subject.. maybe i was excited.. but i am just happy to have the markets i am offered.. with the cs i was used to... anything more then that was not intentional ..

bill is already limiting my account..

maybe i will just keep people updated with payouts...

[magynuck]

i am willing to give them a try...see what happens

[cyberinvestor]

exactly the point i was trying to make.. not saying they are the end all be all.. but right now.. things are good.. so maybe give them a shot take advantage of a deposit bonus are they establish like the greek or 5 dimes.. or someone like that .. no.. not at all.. if you like their cs.. you will stay.. if you don't.. u will leave.. that's the story behind every book in my experience.. i have been very impressed with what they have offered out the gate.. i mean they still manage to put 2nd half lines in NBA faster then Pinny does.. thats amazing.. i dont care who u are.. .. probably be the last time i even comment on this subject.. maybe i was excited.. but i am just happy to have the markets i am offered.. with the cs i was used to... anything more then that was not intentional .. bill is already limiting my account.. maybe i will just keep people updated with payouts...

Agree 100%! I wasn't really taking pot shots at you but just in general some of the BetIslands threads feel like promotional rather than real player responses. However I know some players are in the mix and I like everything I see from BetIslands. I am cheering for Jon to make this the next big thing! I just want to reserve full judgement until after the honeymoon period is over.

[Dark Horse]

You're right, Bill, I didn't react to this, because I didn't quite understand it.

Right now we know BI uses the services of a slow-pay sportsbook and has an owner is someone we aren't familiar with yet. That party is what matters when you hit your 8 teamer. The reason BI opened in the C's is because of Jon being there and what he's told us. He is a quality book manager. CS will be good. Building up some business outside this board, some good history, and learning more about the folks involved will mean upgrades for BetIslands.

The book was added in the ratings on 3/22/11, but their site says they've been paying since 2004, seven years ago. So what gives? If that date is accurate, and you have no complaints ...

3/22/2011 05:23 PM
betislands added to SBR sportsbook ratings guide
betislands.com has been added to the SBR sportsbook ratings guide at C-. betislands is managed by Jon Kreta, who founded WagerChief (SBR rating B-) in December of 2008. WagerChief was acquired by BetPhoenix (SBR rating B-) in July of 2009. In January of 2011, Jon officially left WagerChief to take over the betislands brand.

betislands is a turnkey on the DPT Sports Group platform, which also powers Jazz Sports (SBR rating C-), ABC Islands (SBR rating C-), and LooseLines (SBR rating C-).

DPT provides betislands with hosting, wagering and IT support. betislands performs its own processing, and does not accept players outside of the US and Canada. | betislands SBRforum statement

Also, if BI performs its own processing, how does the platform they use reflect on their reliability? This whole platform/turnkey/independent processing is a little murky. Is BI financially independent from these other books or not?

[Foosball Champ]

betislands I like them a lot.

[PD77]

Bottom line, you are going to have to do a whole helluva lot better than a $50 freeplay if you are going to solicit and cold call me. Heritage was able to do it with a $500 CASH and them answering at least 20 questions from me including where they go my information from. I always had my doubts about WC and knowing this is where they got my information only makes matters worse.

[bizzle66]

time will tell this is a good book with good people and they pay same day

[iceminers26]

Love this book, tons of betting options in every sport, great customer service, and quick payouts.

Keep up the solid work B.I.

[xstud]

I like the book and have made 2 deposits and overall they are pretty good at grading quickly.. My only beef is that sometimes livechat is not available when it says it should be on the site. But if that is my only gripe they are doing a hell of a job. Also I can't seem to win worth a shit here lol.

[austin]

i wonder why they are scared of non american players

[sq764]

are they a book behind a book?

[rick50time]

causing more trouble now or what thee heck

[midnight777]

I will say time will tell.. I think Jon runs a quality shop..

[bizzle66]

he does, people should give this book a shot