Not Looking Good For U.S. Players

[Scooter]

sharpcat - "What is the deal with all of this nonsense you are posting? Do you have a single piece of well informed evidence of any such thing happening to back these silly claims?

Is this just one of those things that you say so that you can come back and pat yourself on the back later and say I told you so? Kind of like those guys who start a thread saying a big underdog will win, if you win your a genius if you lose who cares they had an 80% chances of losing."



Somehow in your post you make it appear that you are quoting me.
I said none of that.
Everything you are quoting was stated by thegreen.

I quoted some of thegreen's statements in my 2 posts - but the majority of what you have in your post as "Originally posted by Scooter" was not even quoted by me and appears nowhere in my 2 posts.
The few sentences of thegreen's which I quoted are clearly indicated as quotes.

It appears you did this intentionally. Or you didn't bother to check your post once it posted, as you haven't bothered to correct this.

[Scooter]

Remember sportsfrance? He was treated like crap on this board for breaking the matchbook story? ...

I have no idea who sportsfrance is.

But I do know who first posted that Matchbook may be leaving the US (and was treated like crap for doing so):

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/942786-forum-rumor-matchbook-will-withdraw-usa-today.html

However, what does that have to do with thegreen stating "Kiss your money goodbye", which is simply a guess on his part, not supported by 2 major examples, and which he can only backup by stating "Trust me", and "Believe me"?

[Legions36]

Yeah things are looking good.

[PAPAGUNNZ]

***EDITED***

Not in US....took me over 10 days and Full Tilt still in limbo....Believe me when offshore books go down no deals will be made to get us our funds back they will be BYE BYE forever..If I was not in US I would stay away from any book that accepts USA players..Best to stay with Pinny or Bet fair and you will be safe,,,,

its blatantly obvious you have no clue what your talking about...nor that you actually pay attention to the news and other reports...the DA office in NY specifically said AFTER the crack down, that ALL funds held by U.S players are safe and WILL be returned...yes this might take quite a while to do, but you will get your money...as a matter a fact pokerstars started cashing out U.S funds within the last few days...so educate yourself before you spread false facts!...your welcome

[PAPAGUNNZ]

the quote is WRONG for my post ..#39....no idea why the hell it says "scooter" when scooter did not write that quote...original post and quote is from "Thegreen" ...or just call him thebrown, cuz his pants will be brown when he finds out he can cash out his money =P

[PAPAGUNNZ]

sbr needs to straighten up this damn site...its quoting the wrong people, fix this shit already!

[vyomguy]

lol at all these people....sportsbooks are fine. The US cant do anything to them coz of these:-

1> They dont have rats revealing stuff like poker sites.
2> They dont have banks in US.
3> They dont advertise like stupid poker sites.

The only reason US were able to catch pokerstars and fulltilt was that they violated all above 3 things. Sportsbooks dont have any of the above issues. Sportsbooks will have little to no problem in the next 5 years....relax guys.

[packman]

lol at all these people....sportsbooks are fine. The US cant do anything to them coz of these:-

1> They dont have rats revealing stuff like poker sites.
2> They dont have banks in US.
3> They dont advertise like stupid poker sites.

The only reason US were able to catch pokerstars and fulltilt was that they violated all above 3 things. Sportsbooks dont have any of the above issues. Sportsbooks will have little to no problem in the next 5 years....relax guys.

Then why have offshore books like Pinnacle and Matchbook stopped doing business with US customers?

[sharpcat]

sharpcat - "What is the deal with all of this nonsense you are posting? Do you have a single piece of well informed evidence of any such thing happening to back these silly claims?

Is this just one of those things that you say so that you can come back and pat yourself on the back later and say I told you so? Kind of like those guys who start a thread saying a big underdog will win, if you win your a genius if you lose who cares they had an 80% chances of losing."



Somehow in your post you make it appear that you are quoting me.
I said none of that.
Everything you are quoting was stated by thegreen.

I quoted some of thegreen's statements in my 2 posts - but the majority of what you have in your post as "Originally posted by Scooter" was not even quoted by me and appears nowhere in my 2 posts.
The few sentences of thegreen's which I quoted are clearly indicated as quotes.

It appears you did this intentionally. Or you didn't bother to check your post once it posted, as you haven't bothered to correct this.

Obviously as you observed I mistakenly quoted the wrong post I tend to not review quoted posts since I have no need to spell check what I did not write. I apologize for this mistake.


The need for your childish solution to my mistake by insulting me in another thread makes you appear very immature.

EDIT:
After further review it appears that I did quote the correct post and SBR's software somehow added your name in the post. Post has not been edited view for yourself the post that was quoted was written by TheGreen you your self never wrote such a post.

Maybe next time you should wait more than a half hour before you go and insult somebody and give them a chance to figure out what happened.

[thegreen]

Then why have offshore books like Pinnacle and Matchbook stopped doing business with US customers?

They are the smart ones just like Party Poker left years ago and same reason why Victory Poker decided to leave US when the Feds moved in. They will get shut down and funds seized about as quick as you can say black friday and when gambling online does get regulated in States be completely shut out. Any Smart book that can be trusted would not accept US players as if they do they are very vulnerable of losing all funds held and believe me unlike poker where feds returned funds they will not as sports gambling is illegal in States.

[thegreen]

lol at all these people....sportsbooks are fine. The US cant do anything to them coz of these:-

1> They dont have rats revealing stuff like poker sites.
2> They dont have banks in US.
3> They dont advertise like stupid poker sites.

The only reason US were able to catch pokerstars and fulltilt was that they violated all above 3 things. Sportsbooks dont have any of the above issues. Sportsbooks will have little to no problem in the next 5 years....relax guys.

ever see odds section on yahoo sports? Or Bodog Ads on radio and TV? Get a mailer from BETUS or Oddsmaker? They are out there too....

[WileOut]

If you are US your money is not safe anywhere....If the feds can shut down Poker in a blink of an eye they can shut down these shady processors and sites too..If they shut down one of these processors from an A book that you have money involved with you can kiss your money bye bye. The books will care less about paying us if they get caught in......The terms and conditions even say it in some cases.....lol In the US you need a local or be in Vegas. Anything else is just taking a great risk with money. If you can afford to lose all your funds you have no worries. If not stay away for now until things get legalized in US..

This post is just wrong. They shutdown processors and accounts all the time. Books just switch processors and continue business. This has been going on for a long time and the books are use to it.

[SportSharpener]

They are the smart ones just like Party Poker left years ago and same reason why Victory Poker decided to leave US when the Feds moved in. They will get shut down and funds seized about as quick as you can say black friday and when gambling online does get regulated in States be completely shut out. Any Smart book that can be trusted would not accept US players as if they do they are very vulnerable of losing all funds held and believe me unlike poker where feds returned funds they will not as sports gambling is illegal in States.

We get it. You don't like the U.S.

Sportsbetting is legal in Vegas, just like poker is legal in select areas.

[vyomguy]

ever see odds section on yahoo sports? Or Bodog Ads on radio and TV? Get a mailer from BETUS or Oddsmaker? They are out there too....

Thats why you dont play in those books....choose the ones which are more discrete.

[vyomguy]

Then why have offshore books like Pinnacle and Matchbook stopped doing business with US customers?

Because they didnt want the hassle with processors. Matchbook has new owners which changed direction...until recently they were available for US.

[vyomguy]

They are the smart ones just like Party Poker left years ago and same reason why Victory Poker decided to leave US when the Feds moved in. They will get shut down and funds seized about as quick as you can say black friday and when gambling online does get regulated in States be completely shut out. Any Smart book that can be trusted would not accept US players as if they do they are very vulnerable of losing all funds held and believe me unlike poker where feds returned funds they will not as sports gambling is illegal in States.

Players funds are always safe...if US seizes these sites...players funds will be returned. Dude, think before you open your mouth. Books like Bookmaker have been in business for 25 years....longer than any poker site.

[Hareeba!]

Because they didnt want the hassle with processors. Matchbook has new owners which changed direction...until recently they were available for US.

that's precisely what Packman was getting at

[FreeFall]

Another overreaction by posters

I agree with him and OP is another idiot. Go back to Players talk with JJ.

[thegreen]

Players funds are always safe...if US seizes these sites...players funds will be returned. Dude, think before you open your mouth. Books like Bookmaker have been in business for 25 years....longer than any poker site.

I told you so see this post below from Today.....When they take these guys down your Money is BYE BYE. Poker Stars money was secure online offshore sports gambling is not and will not be returned if they seize it!!!

[quote=blix177;9870363]Dear Customers,

You all may already be aware of the fact that ************* has been out of service since November last year.

At this point we must regretfully inform you that our funds and accounts were seized by the United States Government as part of a confidential investigation. We have contacted the U.S. investigating agencies and are currently negotiating with them. At present, ************* is unable to access these funds or return them to you because the money is no longer in our custody or control.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Due to the sensitivity of the situation we were not able to notify you earlier and we do sincerely appologize again for any inconvenience you may have suffered.

We are grateful for your patronage over the years and are trying our best to resolve this issue quickly.

Best Regards

[John Dough]

thegreen, please go away already. We heard your opinion. Why are you posting at SBR if you no longer bet offshore?

[mojomaker11]

Anyone cashout with intertops recently?

[scott235]

I have no idea who sportsfrance is.

But I do know who first posted that Matchbook may be leaving the US (and was treated like crap for doing so):

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/942786-forum-rumor-matchbook-will-withdraw-usa-today.html

However, what does that have to do with thegreen stating "Kiss your money goodbye", which is simply a guess on his part, not supported by 2 major examples, and which he can only backup by stating "Trust me", and "Believe me"?

I stand corrected (on who broke the MB story). Thank you and keep up the good work.

[Mastertvtech]

I though for sure I would never see a penny of the funds I had in Netteller when that all went down.....It took a while but happened as promised. I guess the Feds have a small heart.

They should focus more time and resources erradicating Heroin and Crack and let the people decide what to do with their earnings.

[Eagle1958]

Always been paid on time where I do business. Just got $2100 by check yesterday and it took only 2 days from the time I requested it.

[Coming Back!]

If CRIS or THEGREEK go down its over. They reps don't seem concerned. They could be good bluffers, but I think we will continue to lose our ass. Nothing to worry about. Then again, if I was drinking cocktails on the beach & hooking up w smoking Columbian girls w smooth round butts, I'd be smiling too

[thekid667]

Lets enjoy it while it lasts.

[Rollins08]

Gaming is an easy target for the feds. They could probably shut the entire thing down just as easily as they did with the poker sites. The public doesn't care so much about online gambling. Even when the poker sites went down I didn't see news sites carrying the story, it got a few articles and mentions, but it was done with the next day. My prediction is that they can not shut down the offshore sites, but they can make it so hard to deposit or withdraw that it won't be worth it to play anymore.

[Eagle1958]

There will be for all times ways to place a bet if you reside in the US. There is no way this will be shut off in the US