Wilheim/TheRX's Decision of EasyStreet Casino dispute

[Chuck Sims]

"Fishhead, in the original thread you were clamoring for Shilheim to mediate this dispute, describing him as intelligent, fair-minded, and knowledgeable."

Fishhead, Did you really say this? Come on man, you know Adolf Wilheim is a piece of shit.

[xstud]

Xstud/steveX is aleX powers, EZ's manager.

Please provide 1 shred of evidence that is 100% not opinion and I will stop chiming in on any Easystreet thread.

The facts are people that support cory are clinging to any make believe thing they can because all they can do is cling to make believe items such as: "So and so is a shill for easystreet" and "Xstud/stevex is Mr. Powers" oh and some of the best ones "You work for Easystreet" So I can't have an opinion about some scammer who has tarnished a books reputation? A book which had ZERO documented complaints prior to this? The complaint comes from a person who seems to have an issue with every book he plays with?

This is an industry where good books should be rewarded and applauded. As Americans our choices are limited enough but with people like cory out there our choices will continue to shrink.

I bet most of the people who tear the book down have never even played there. They provide great bonuses fast payouts and make you feel as if they genuinely care for their players.

[Chuck Sims]

Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.

The shithead's cock that you have your lips attached to, deleted my posts warning people to withdraw their funds from all BetOnSports owned sportsbooks. That was just before the house of cards known as BOS collapsed.

[sharpcat]

Please provide 1 shred of evidence that is 100% not opinion and I will stop chiming in on any Easystreet thread.

The facts are people that support cory are clinging to any make believe thing they can because all they can do is cling to make believe items such as: "So and so is a shill for easystreet" and "Xstud/stevex is Mr. Powers" oh and some of the best ones "You work for Easystreet" So I can't have an opinion about some scammer who has tarnished a books reputation? A book which had ZERO documented complaints prior to this? The complaint comes from a person who seems to have an issue with every book he plays with?

This is an industry where good books should be rewarded and applauded. As Americans our choices are limited enough but with people like cory out there our choices will continue to shrink.

I bet most of the people who tear the book down have never even played there. They provide great bonuses fast payouts and make you feel as if they genuinely care for their players.

+1

This is my biggest problem with what is going down here

Any player out there with a clue should realize that the more outs that ar out there for us to play at the more profit potential. It is a shame to see a documented scam artist go into a book that has never had one single payout complaint and destroy their reputation before they even have a chance to show if they have the potential to be another solid out for players in the future.

No Cory1111 did not manipulate the software to hit 3 royals, he got lucky while running a bot to take advantage of the highly +EV scenario that the casino was giving him with the 100% bonus. Casinos make mistakes like this all of the time and the more outs that we have to play at the more +EV scenarios players can find to exploit. It is just a shame that you have players who are not content enough with the value that they are already being given that they have to go the extra length and use a software program to accomplish the task faster and without the risk of human error cutting into their EV.

No doubt in my mind Cory1111 was using a bot against site rules if people want to cry that EZ has not proven it beyond a doubt so be it, but I can assure you that if the ruling is that it has to be proven beyond a doubt you are going to see bonus offers from casinos dry up very quickly and become non-existant because it is impossible to prove 100% beyond a doubt that a bot was used. I would expect to see bot play become a major issue for casinos to deal with in the near future if all of the arbitrating sources are ruling in favor of players.

[stevenash]

The shithead's cock that you have your lips attached to.

Stay classy dude, stay classy.

[HedgeHog]

I like Wil, he's always treated me more than right, but like Corey, EZ also has issues.
If EZ offered me 1.00 to my 0.10 I'd turn that down, that's what I think of them.

I personally think Corey is scum, doesn't mean I like EZ either, I don't, but unlike 75 percent of you, I'm not going to genuflect to Corey and suck his e-penis.

Some of you act like Corey is a third grade nerd who's lunch money got taken from him.

Stay classy, Steve. Take your own advice.

[sharpcat]

Stay classy dude, stay classy.

There has never been any class in this debate from the start.

All I see is players who feel that Cory should be paid insulting and attacking anyone who does not share their belief. This has turned into an angry lynch mob and if you are not with the mob expect to be insulted and attacked for not sharing their same opinion.

[Chuck Sims]

Stay classy, Steve. Take your own advice.

Hear Hear!

[WVU]

There has never been any class in this debate from the start.

All I see is players who feel that Cory should be paid insulting and attacking anyone who does not share their belief. This has turned into an angry lynch mob and if you are not with the mob expect to be insulted and attacked for not sharing their same opinion.

You yourself have been very irresponsible in your early support for the book. You took and still take everything they said as fact while ignoring the rebuttle much like Wilheim. It is easy to take your stance when it isn't your money and you are just some square behind a keyboard. The fact is you are supporting theft of casino winnings based on heresay and conjured up "facts"

[xstud]

There has never been any class in this debate from the start.

All I see is players who feel that Cory should be paid insulting and attacking anyone who does not share their belief. This has turned into an angry lynch mob and if you are not with the mob expect to be insulted and attacked for not sharing their same opinion.

I think what is comical is you look at the people who are bashing the book. Pokerplayer was caught red handed taking a shot at a book Mr. Powers owned and has been all over his nuts ever since. Also anyone who defends the book is AUTOMATICALLY Alex Powers according to these guys.

What is even more comical is the thought that was put out there "Easystreet should have known what kind of player cory was" If you honestly want this industry to do background checks PRIOR to accepting money stick to betting in Vegas or a country where this is all heavily regulated. Fact of the matter is if you take shots at books sooner or later it will catch up with you and it did.

For the people that say its "Irrelevant". Do you support people who shoplift? Because of them prices on goods go up. Do you support CEO's of banks? They took bailout money and then gave out hefty bonuses to executives while we all foot the bill.

IF you want to compare this to cookies or milk or whatever you can surely do that but when someone is a crook in this industry both customer and/or book they will get what they deserve in the end. Every accusation that I have typed personally were things that were supported by FACT or by cory himself (charge backs, being banned from books). Also what a coincidence that this same type of situation happened at northbet. Very very ironic huh?

To save scooter and the rest of the guys time... no I am not Alex Powers. If I was a non-pro and had a costa rican IP address then MAYBE. But when I have been registered here for years and am a pro.. sorry just another false accusation that keeps piling up.

[Fishhead]

You yourself have been very irresponsible in your early support for the book. You took and still take everything they said as fact while ignoring the rebuttle much like Wilheim. It is easy to take your stance when it isn't your money and you are just some square behind a keyboard. The fact is you are supporting theft of casino winnings based on heresay and conjured up "facts"

Those in the EZ corner need to recite this 59 times before they go to bed tonight...........maybe, just maybe, they will wake up with some commonsense.

[jgilmartin]

What is even more comical is the thought that was put out there "Easystreet should have known what kind of player cory was" If you honestly want this industry to do background checks PRIOR to accepting money stick to betting in Vegas or a country where this is all heavily regulated. Fact of the matter is if you take shots at books sooner or later it will catch up with you and it did.

So it's okay that they do background checks after players have won there, but totally absurd for them to do background checks any other time?

For the people that say its "Irrelevant". Do you support people who shoplift? Because of them prices on goods go up. Do you support CEO's of banks? They took bailout money and then gave out hefty bonuses to executives while we all foot the bill.

I do not support people who shoplift, but I wouldn't be in favor of a person with a criminal record being convicted (without evidence) of shoplifting simply because he had a criminal record.

[sharpcat]

You yourself have been very irresponsible in your early support for the book. You took and still take everything they said as fact while ignoring the rebuttle much like Wilheim. It is easy to take your stance when it isn't your money and you are just some square behind a keyboard. The fact is you are supporting theft of casino winnings based on heresay and conjured up "facts"

I may be a square when it comes to playing video poker but I am no stranger to understanding how to calculate my edge in any bet, gambling is gambling my friend. I know fully well the edge that the player gained due to the bonus.

I also stand firm in my belief that casinos are in the right by not wanting players to use bots that play perfect strategy at a high rate of speed.

I do not take anything they have said as fact but I realize that what they have provided is far more than what has been provided by the player, you still continue to take what Cory has said as fact when he has offered no evidence other than the word of a person with a dishonest history.

I do like how you slipped in the insult there it really speaks highly for your intelligence to insult others. Notice I am confident enough in myself to have never insulted anyone who has not insulted me first I do not need to belittle others in order to make myself appear as superior.

[slash]

Who gives a shit what kind of player cory is? You think the book would have paid up if it was I or another stand up bonus hunter who had won the 46k? No fukkin way they would! And even if they would, the problem would be that they couldn't pay up.

[chemicalbrother]

Riddle me this?

If you ran an OS book, would you want Corey as your customer?

answering a question with a question: if he pays cash, and you don't have to pay him if he wins, would you?

[stevenash]

answering a question with a question: if he pays cash, and you don't have to pay him if he wins, would you?

Short answer, no, I've don't stiff, and I've never been stiffed. I'm old school , debt of honor, yadda, yadda...
One person tried when I worked for an indie book in Boston, didn't work out to well for the stiffer.

Is all the data in?
Is this case officially closed?
I'm hearing there's more yet?

I'm hearing so much crap from both sides I don't who or what to believe anymore

I got another one for you.

If EZ is this notorious sleazy book that most say it is, slow/no play, questionable ownership, etc. etc. why is Corey even taking shots there if the book is going to screw him?

Corey's been around the block more then once, he had to know EZ was allegedly bad, why play VP there 'til your fingers bleed if it's such a crappy book?

[SBR_John]

In the 'duh' category but needs a little attention;

The "don't pay him because he is a scammer" falls short in this case. And it was NOT the reason Wil and the mystery expert, lets call him Voldermort, stated for the reason the player would not be paid.

The scammer argument is a legitimate reason to rule in favor of the book if there is strong evidence the player intended to charge back his deposit. Since the player deposited cash there was no chance of this rendering the scammer argument irrelevant and not applicable in this case.

[carolinakid]

Cash out a week ago from easy here, now i get phone calls every 3 days, trying to get me to reload and all the great bonues they have...no way would i deposited with them again.......ck

[Fishhead]

Mass exit taking place right now at EZ

[pokerplayer22]

Mass exit taking place right now at EZ

And well earned....

[KGambler]

Mass exit taking place right now at EZ

The run on the bank has begun. Don't be late heading for the exits...

On a related note, secretstash reports that to be eligible for their VP contest (which could give away $46K ), you have to make a new deposit of at least $200. Trying to stay afloat by using new deposits to pay current withdrawals never ends well.

[pokerplayer22]

The run on the bank has begun. Don't be late heading for the exits...

On a related note, secretstash reports that to be eligible for their VP contest (which could give away $46K ), you have to make a new deposit of at least $200. Trying to stay afloat by using new deposits to pay current withdrawals never ends well.

If that is true then thats just fukin hilarious. By putting the 46k tag on the contest, they made it sound like it was going to be a free roll (using Cory's money). But now that a deposit of $200 is required to participate, they're not giving shit away. They are trying to get in as many deposits NOW as possible. It just never ends with these guys.

[xstud]

So let me get this straight. According to the post by Easystreet...

Now that we have a resolution of this issue, EasyStreetSports moving forward is pleased to announce that we will be having a CR VIDEO POKER CONTEST

The reason for this contest is to show the public that this was never about the money, but the principle of running a fair operation for all players.

This contest will be held in Costa Rica at an announced venue and the chosen contestants will have their expenses paid.


Total cash awards could exceed $46,000.

Full details of the contest and the rules will be posted soon, so please stay tuned.



Where does it say 200.00 deposit required? Where does it say anything about official rules or eligibility? Again please stick to factual information. Great book that pays! Free payouts on Tuesdays! If you are not playing at Easystreet you are missing out on easily one of the best books online today. Shot takers need not apply.

[cory1111]

resolution in whos eyes, yours and Rx's...far from over. Heard your having bank problems too, only ** and west. union withdrawals.uh-oh

[KGambler]

So let me get this straight. According to the post by Easystreet...

Now that we have a resolution of this issue, EasyStreetSports moving forward is pleased to announce that we will be having a CR VIDEO POKER CONTEST

The reason for this contest is to show the public that this was never about the money, but the principle of running a fair operation for all players.

This contest will be held in Costa Rica at an announced venue and the chosen contestants will have their expenses paid.


Total cash awards could exceed $46,000.

Full details of the contest and the rules will be posted soon, so please stay tuned.



Where does it say 200.00 deposit required? Where does it say anything about official rules or eligibility? Again please stick to factual information.

Right in my post it says where I got the information... from SBR poster "secretstash". Here's his post from the thread about the contest:

the real joke is.. EZ's contest is a complete sham... just ask them as a joke what the rules will be to enter and u will be "pleasantly" surprised u have to post up at least 200$ of new money to enter the contest... LOL GOODLUCK

-stash

Secretstash is a respected poster who often has good, up to date info on bonuses and contests at various books. It sounds like he contacted them, but I guess you would have to ask him.


And contact ezstreet and ask them yourself while you are at it.

[CallMeChip]

Where does it say 200.00 deposit required? Where does it say anything about official rules or eligibility? Again please stick to factual information. Great book that pays! Free payouts on Tuesdays! If you are not playing at Easystreet you are missing out on easily one of the best books online today. Shot takers need not apply.

Wow. Dude, do you realize everytime you end posts like this you are just baiting people to say you're affiliated with rx or EZ somehow? You sound like a billboard on Hollywood Blvd. "OMG John A. won $30,000 at Commerce Casino! $5 Lobster on Thursday's between 6-12! Come play with us today!" ... It's really disheartening and not helping your case.

[Scooter]

So let me get this straight. According to the post by Easystreet...

Now that we have a resolution of this issue, EasyStreetSports moving forward is pleased to announce that we will be having a CR VIDEO POKER CONTEST

The reason for this contest is to show the public that this was never about the money, but the principle of running a fair operation for all players.

This contest will be held in Costa Rica at an announced venue and the chosen contestants will have their expenses paid.


Total cash awards could exceed $46,000.

Full details of the contest and the rules will be posted soon, so please stay tuned.



Where does it say 200.00 deposit required? Where does it say anything about official rules or eligibility? Again please stick to factual information. Great book that pays! Free payouts on Tuesdays! If you are not playing at Easystreet you are missing out on easily one of the best books online today. Shot takers need not apply.

For those who have not been following these threads:
Xstud/steveX is aleX powers, EZ's manager.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Cash out a week ago from easy here, now i get phone calls every 3 days, trying to get me to reload and all the great bonues they have...no way would i deposited with them again.......ck

Make sure you mention why you won't - "I heard you scammed a player out of $46k".

[midnight777]

good for them.. i do believe Cory did something unusual.. now I can beat ez streets for more money...

[yokspot]

Was it established that there was NO autohold feature in operation, ie. he had to physically hold all cards?

[midnight777]

here is my take... Cory went to take a shot @ easystreets and he got stiffed. That is what happens when you play @ a crap book.. Lesson learned..... WHY WOULD ANYBODY DEPOSIT THAT KIND OF MONEY@ THAT BOOK... BECAUSE HE WAS PLANNING ON SCREWING THEM!!!!!!

[goldengreek]

Wilheim is a c*nt of a man

[ncsubowen]

+1

This is my biggest problem with what is going down here

Any player out there with a clue should realize that the more outs that ar out there for us to play at the more profit potential. It is a shame to see a documented scam artist go into a book that has never had one single payout complaint and destroy their reputation before they even have a chance to show if they have the potential to be another solid out for players in the future.

No Cory1111 did not manipulate the software to hit 3 royals, he got lucky while running a bot to take advantage of the highly +EV scenario that the casino was giving him with the 100% bonus. Casinos make mistakes like this all of the time and the more outs that we have to play at the more +EV scenarios players can find to exploit. It is just a shame that you have players who are not content enough with the value that they are already being given that they have to go the extra length and use a software program to accomplish the task faster and without the risk of human error cutting into their EV.

No doubt in my mind Cory1111 was using a bot against site rules if people want to cry that EZ has not proven it beyond a doubt so be it, but I can assure you that if the ruling is that it has to be proven beyond a doubt you are going to see bonus offers from casinos dry up very quickly and become non-existant because it is impossible to prove 100% beyond a doubt that a bot was used. I would expect to see bot play become a major issue for casinos to deal with in the near future if all of the arbitrating sources are ruling in favor of players.

Did you read anything that anybody other than RX or Easystreet posted on the matter? There is very little evidence that the player used a bot, in the meantime, both institutions have been lying the entire time and on repeated, documented instances. Have you even tried to read the "expert report" without your brain melting?

[AribaAriba]

Wilheim is a c*nt of a man

ya i used to be a fan of that man but until he handled this case. You know what so fishy about this guy? out of all the pictures in the bash last year he doesnt want his picture to be published publicly on forum, it tells you how he might be connected to some kind of syndicate in Costa Rica. Stay away from any Costa Rica sportsbook they are all connected to look each others ass. I think JJ's rebate wager is affiliated with it

[yokspot]

Was it established that there was NO autohold feature in operation, ie. he had to physically hold all cards?

Anyone, please?

I'm writing my own report, and want all the facts.