Wilheim/TheRX's Decision of EasyStreet Casino dispute

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  • HedgeHog
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-11-07
    • 10128

    #36
    Originally posted by Fishhead
    Complete farce...........in SO MANY WAYS.
    No offense, but you were defending this Wilheim as an honorable mediator a few days ago. The guy is a puppet with Powers' hand up his sorry ass.
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    • KGambler
      SBR MVP
      • 07-09-09
      • 2404

      #37
      Originally posted by HedgeHog
      No offense, but you were defending this Wilheim as an honorable mediator a few days ago. The guy is a puppet with Powers' hand up his sorry ass.
      I could have sworn you were parroting Shilheim's attacks on Cory as if they were actual facts.

      Welcome aboard...
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      • KGambler
        SBR MVP
        • 07-09-09
        • 2404

        #38
        This report is so absurd that it has to be viewed as a relatively positive development for the player. Cory should take this case to Bryan at Casinomeister. He should contact DGS for comment. They should be very interested in this report. He should write to the WizardOfOdds (website), who will probably have fun shredding their pathetic arguments.

        It's true that no one can force ezstreet to pay. But the incompetence, ignorance and dishonesty of easystreet's management, along with that of their "mediator" (read "paid shill") Wilheim, has been exposed. I believe that EZstreet is going to go out of business, and that this will largely be due to the release of this report.
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        • HedgeHog
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-11-07
          • 10128

          #39
          Originally posted by KGambler
          I could have sworn you were parroting Shilheim's attacks on Cory as if they were actual facts.

          Welcome aboard...
          Not at all. I always thought EZ should pay in full. I just felt that the Books Cory scammed should get reimbursed first before he saw a dime.
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          • yokspot
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-16-05
            • 287

            #40
            Sorry, but the following statement is nonsense:

            The odds of hitting 3 royal flushes in 8762 hands of poker is statistically impossible.
            1) No it isn't. The odds are (about) one in 700. This is comparable to winning 9 straight hands at blackjack. Has any blackjack player NOT seen such a run at some time? I've seen many such.

            What kind of an expert says that one in 700 is "impossible"?

            2) 3 royals in 8762 hands uses only the sessions that include a royal. This is invalid because you cannot selectively choose the data that suits your contention, you must use ALL data. This applies to players who bitch about their results, and also to casinos.

            The above statement was not made by an expert. It was made by someone who understands neither mathematics nor the correct way to do tests.

            It is not out of the question that the OP used a bot, but nothing in this "expert" report is relevant to the matter.
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            • KGambler
              SBR MVP
              • 07-09-09
              • 2404

              #41
              Originally posted by HedgeHog
              Not at all. I always thought EZ should pay in full. I just felt that the Books Cory scammed should get reimbursed first before he saw a dime.
              Shilheim has made some truly wild claims about Cory's past. For example, that Shilheim had information that Cory had committed 30 acts of fraud against 25 different books. Is anyone still stupid enough to believe Shilheim's facts and figures? Basically everything he has said about this case has turned out to be a lie. I am not going to accept anything he says without hard evidence. He has been caught in too many lies.
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              • KGambler
                SBR MVP
                • 07-09-09
                • 2404

                #42
                Originally posted by yokspot
                Sorry, but the following statement is nonsense:



                1) No it isn't. The odds are (about) one in 700. This is comparable to winning 9 straight hands at blackjack. Has any blackjack player NOT seen such a run at some time? I've seen many such.

                What kind of an expert says that one in 700 is "impossible"?

                2) 3 royals in 8762 hands uses only the sessions that include a royal. This is invalid because you cannot selectively choose the data that suits your contention, you must use ALL data. This applies to players who bitch about their results, and also to casinos.

                The above statement was not made by an expert. It was made by someone who understands neither mathematics nor the correct way to do tests.

                It is not out of the question that the OP used a bot, but nothing in this "expert" report is relevant to the matter.
                Anyone who doubts what yokspot is saying can use this calculator:



                The chances are less than 1 in 700. Statistically impossible?

                And Cory played over 22,000 hands at ezstreet. Shilheim just straight up lied about the number of hands played.

                Cory's next step should be to use this report to make sure that ezstreet cannot advertise at any reputable websites. For example, getting easystreet rogued at Casinomeister is a slam dunk once he shows them this report.
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                • pokerplayer22
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-09-09
                  • 1207

                  #43
                  This is probably a dumb question, but cant anything be done if Cory contacted the Costra Rica chamber of commerce and alerted them of a company scamming money from people. Obviosuly running a sportsbook in CR is perfectly legal but stealing money from people surely cannot be.
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                  • yokspot
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-16-05
                    • 287

                    #44
                    It occurs to me that the "expert" has essentially accused the software of being non-random. If it's "statistically impossible", then that can be the only explanation as such a thing cannot happen on random software. However, the software provider has already stated that there were no anolalies, which is entirely contradictory.

                    I think that mustn't have occured to the "expert", which doesn't entirely surprise me at this point.

                    I'm sure Mike Shakleford (Wiz Of Odds) would be more than happy to refute this "expert" testimony, being an actual expert, as opposed to a casino hack.

                    This isn't the first time I've seen a casino accuse it's software supplier of being non-random. Casinos are so uniquely clueless.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #45
                      Originally posted by HedgeHog
                      No offense, but you were defending this Wilheim as an honorable mediator a few days ago. The guy is a puppet with Powers' hand up his sorry ass.
                      Fishhead is beyond clueless. The rx and wilheim never had any credibility. The have sportsbook.com and sbgglobal as sponsors. Anyone that expected them to do anything different has been paying attention for years.
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #46
                        Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                        This is probably a dumb question, but cant anything be done if Cory contacted the Costra Rica chamber of commerce and alerted them of a company scamming money from people. Obviosuly running a sportsbook in CR is perfectly legal but stealing money from people surely cannot be.
                        Books have stolen or closed with millions of players $. The costa rica gov't does not care.
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                        • yokspot
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-16-05
                          • 287

                          #47
                          My post above, which I put at RX also, was deleted. I thought it might be, which is why I copied it here.

                          I know mediating where business partners are involved can be very tough, but this is farcical.
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                          • McFly86
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-15-11
                            • 149

                            #48
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            6) Based on my review of the play logs, research of the EasyStreet system, and discussions with other industry professionals; it is my professional opinion that the player used a bot or some other form of machine augmented assistance to play the hands at a rate fast enough to attempt to overwhelm the RNG and provide favorable odds to the "player".

                            How fast do you need to play in order to "overwhelm" the RNG?

                            What does it mean to "overwhelm" a RNG?
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65591

                              #49
                              Originally posted by McFly86
                              How fast do you need to play in order to "overwhelm" the RNG?

                              What does it mean to "overwhelm" a RNG?
                              I'm not the author of the post, I just took it from the other place and posted here for input, you need to ask Wil what that means.
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                              • Birre
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 08-12-10
                                • 225

                                #50
                                Oh my god, statistically impossible to hit 3 royal flushes in 22k hands.

                                An "expert" that makes such claims hasn't mastered basics maths.
                                Also that "expert" has to take all the hands into account that cory played at EZ

                                We all know their is no expert. I would really like if SBR would edit his post and post the probability of hitting 3 royals in 22k hands, next to the "expert" claim saying 1 in 700 is statistically impossible


                                As yokspot says, you could call in a third and real expert from wizardofodds.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65591

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by durito
                                  The rx and wilheim never had any credibility.
                                  Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.
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                                  • firedawg
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 10-08-08
                                    • 39219

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                    Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.
                                      BOS stiffed millions when they closed, they getting that money back?

                                      How about the millions sportsbook and sbg (their current sponsors) have stolen? Would Wil like to help with those?
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                                      • Birre
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-12-10
                                        • 225

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.
                                        This gives him the right to make ridiculous claims and make up fake experts?
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by yokspot
                                          My post above, which I put at RX also, was deleted. I thought it might be, which is why I copied it here.

                                          I know mediating where business partners are involved can be very tough, but this is farcical.
                                          Posts are being deleted, threads locked, posters banned..............INCREDIBLE.

                                          Not sure if TheRX is closing shop and/or in some type of ownership partnership with Easystreet.


                                          Perhaps both
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                            Posts are being deleted, threads locked, posters banned..............INCREDIBLE.

                                            Not sure if TheRX is closing shop and/or in some type of ownership partnership with Easystreet.


                                            Perhaps both
                                            Ah they've been doing this for years, this isn't new.
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65591

                                              #57
                                              ask him, all I know is he got me 100 percent of my BoS balance (4200) after they closed.
                                              Without him, I got squat, forgive me for saying a nice thing or two about him.
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                                              • pokerplayer22
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-09
                                                • 1207

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Birre
                                                This gives him the right to make ridiculous claims and make up fake experts?
                                                Not to mention that he also completely fabricated lie after lie after lie in his conclusion.
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                                                • firedawg
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-08-08
                                                  • 39219

                                                  #59
                                                  hell.......... tony is a scumbag liar at 5dimes also. why dont you all bring him down also
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by firedawg
                                                    hell.......... tony is a scumbag liar at 5dimes also. why dont you all bring him down also
                                                    Tony is a dick, but he is fair. He doesn't steal.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65591

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by durito
                                                      Tony is a dick, but he is fair. He doesn't steal.
                                                      Did Wil steal?
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                                                      • firedawg
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 10-08-08
                                                        • 39219

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by durito
                                                        Tony is a dick, but he is fair. He doesn't steal.
                                                        well..... maybe your right, but he is a dick and no way they deserve A+ rating.... biggest jag off out there
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                                                        • pokerplayer22
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-09
                                                          • 1207

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by firedawg
                                                          hell.......... tony is a scumbag liar at 5dimes also. why dont you all bring him down also
                                                          Tony may be the biggest jerk in the offshore industry, and he may make lots of threats, but he would never ever pull a "Powers"
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                                                          • mrmarket
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-26-10
                                                            • 4953

                                                            #64
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65591

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by firedawg
                                                              well..... maybe your right, but he is a dick and no way they deserve A+ rating.... biggest jag off out there
                                                              Yes, they do.
                                                              5D pays quicker than quick.
                                                              I don't care how gruff Tony is, even though he's treated me right for 5 + years now, 5D does everything they promise to do, and then some.
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                                                              • firedawg
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 10-08-08
                                                                • 39219

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                Yes, they do.
                                                                5D pays quicker than quick.
                                                                I don't care how gruff Tony is, even though he's treated me right for 5 + years now, 5D does everything they promise to do, and then some.
                                                                yeah.... if you like being talked to like a bitch then play there.... not me.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65591

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Tony's never been rude to me for some reason.
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                                                                  • firedawg
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 10-08-08
                                                                    • 39219

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    Tony's never been rude to me for some reason.
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                                                                    • mikeyg
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-25-10
                                                                      • 399

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Total crap


                                                                      Besides "Stevex" who like to suck dyck for freeplays from Sleezysports

                                                                      Anybody that posts up there is an complete FOOL

                                                                      This shop needs to be rated F..... PERIOD
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                                                                      • WVU
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 02-01-08
                                                                        • 417

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                        Wil recovered tens of thousands of dollars for players that got stiffed from BoS and made sure players got paid 5 years ago.

                                                                        Wil also failed to uncover 100's of thousands in that same BOS Fiasco. I alone got ****** out of more than he was able to recover.
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