What good books would you like to see rated by SBR?

**Hareeba!** · 03-14-11, 09:44 PM

188Bet

**sideloaded** · 03-14-11, 11:01 PM

If they don't buy advertising SBR should act like they don't exist.

**NextToYou** · 03-14-11, 11:57 PM

A- or better: Samvo, Dafabet, IBCbet, SBObet, 188Bet.

There you go.

**LMAOFISH** · 03-15-11, 01:42 AM

Mansion88, not 12bet though. Second SBO and 188bet.

**austin** · 03-15-11, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by NextToYou

A- or better: Samvo, Dafabet, IBCbet, SBObet, 188Bet.

There you go.

do you have an account with ibcbet?

**Hareeba!** · 03-15-11, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by LMAOFISH

Mansion88, not 12bet though. Second SBO and 188bet.

mansion88 is in the same league as 12bet ..... not within a bull's roar of deserving an A-

**barcelonafc** · 03-15-11, 03:36 AM

sbo bet, A++++++ deffo

**horja1** · 03-15-11, 03:53 AM

12bet

**Hareeba!** · 03-15-11, 04:10 AM

Originally posted by horja1

12bet

**meckis** · 03-15-11, 04:11 AM

188bet, sbobet, samvo, all of them deserves at least A-

**HedgeHog** · 03-15-11, 05:32 AM

Heritage deserves a small raise from B+ to A- IMO

**AimingHigh** · 03-15-11, 05:34 AM

[Duplicate post. See below]

**AimingHigh** · 03-15-11, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by NextToYou

A- or better: Samvo, Dafabet, IBCbet, SBObet, 188Bet.

There you go.

I agree, though I'm not sure Samvo deserves its place as much in that list, given its history. It might make sense to link the ratings for 12bet/Mansion88/Dafabet, as they're all IBCbet skins with the exact same odds. Dafa is the only one of the three with decent limits.

I'm sure these books could care less, but it would certainly help SBR's credibility to have rankings of the Asian books and an analysis of when you might want to use Pinnacle 'vs' an Asian 'vs' an exchange like Betfair.

**Peeig** · 03-15-11, 06:02 AM

I think cleaning up the current list to remove all of the URL's that aren't sportsbooks anymore would be a tremendous step in the right direction (one that you could have an intern work on)

**sharpcircle** · 03-15-11, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Peeig

I think cleaning up the current list to remove all of the URL's that aren't sportsbooks anymore would be a tremendous step in the right direction (one that you could have an intern work on)

+1.

**Dark Horse** · 03-15-11, 08:04 AM

Wouldn't mind more about the Down Under books. Australia especially. Not sure if New Zealand has much going on. And as a general guideline, it may be useful if SBR included a more specific rating for financial security and safety of funds, expressed in a dollar number. Some books may be safe for 10-25K, others may be 50-100K, others more. I would find that type of evaluation more useful than just a A or B rating. I mean how did a book like Parlaymakers ever get a C rating without any financial transparency?

**Santo** · 03-15-11, 08:08 AM

I assume some of the debate above for not rating a book high is because of limits, yet SBR have historically had Bet365 as an A book implying limits is not a deciding factor.

**vitalyo** · 03-15-11, 08:41 AM

Justin7 F@ck ther Samvo . These guys are cheats .
I open an account (over a month ago) to score a bonus , i believe it was 30 or 40 pounds . I laid off my bet with betfair . I won with betfair , now the bonus was never credited to my account , when i asked for my bonus they suspended my account and asked for documents . I did provide them with my drivers license and utility bill . The reply i got
Re: [Ticket#201@@@@@@000@@@@] Samvo - CDD document request account suspended‏
Account username: ##############################

Thank you for the documents you recently forwarded to us.

Unfortunately, we have not been able to accept the documentation due to the following reasons:
.
- Copy of the document is of a low quality; therefore please scan a clearer copy and sent it back to us.

Bull shit my copies are clear . Plus i made a deposit via moneybookers . How can i be someone else .
I didn't bother to complain ,30 pounds are not big deal for me .

The book is a scam
Here are the terms for the bonus . I can't find it anywhere in order to get it you have to submit documents (which i did )

samvo.com domain name is for sale. Inquire now.

https://www.samvo.com/sb2/retail/promotion_termsandconditions_en.jsp

samvo.com is available for purchase. Get in touch to discuss the possibilities!

Samvo is the only book that i have encounter such a bull shit .

Cheers GL.

**aca** · 03-15-11, 11:02 AM

SBObet only

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-15-11, 01:45 PM

SBOBet
188Bet
IBCBet (albeit accounts are by invitation only)
LuxBet

Books that should be rated that but not necessarily A rated.

12Bet (quick to reduce standard limits that were already cut last year)
10Bet they look quite professional but there are issues in terms of getting paid

I would also also highlight/group those books (that can be set up on a relative shoestring) which are based on a licensed standard/vanilla platform like OddsMatrix.

**Hareeba!** · 03-15-11, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

SBOBet
188Bet
IBCBet (albeit accounts are by invitation only)
LuxBet.

forget Luxbet if you're talking A- or higher
best feature is good Oz racing product (BOB, but limited to $250) -otherwise not worth maintaining an account
crap book for sports now after promising beginning couple of years back
they leave up stale odds then reject your bet and lower the odds
limit severely
and they are arrogant arseholes who aren't even prepared to talk to you

**ArunSh** · 03-15-11, 01:56 PM

How about betmaker? With Matchbook out of picture for US players, many want/have moved there, seems like they should be reviewed.

**zebras99** · 03-15-11, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Peeig

I think cleaning up the current list to remove all of the URL's that aren't sportsbooks anymore would be a tremendous step in the right direction (one that you could have an intern work on)

Totally agree!

**jairocon** · 03-15-11, 04:00 PM

sbobet and 188bet 100%

10Bet they look quite professional but there are issues in terms of getting paid

While their site is professional looking - their odds follow pinna's odds -2-3%. It's not a book that creates its own odds. And they're almost never better than pinna/asians. The only time they have better odds are when somehow they don't get their oddsfeed from pinna/asians updated quickly to react to price movements...

btw if bet365 is an A book - then by the same calculation so should be 12bet...

**sideloaded** · 03-16-11, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by ArunSh

How about betmaker? With Matchbook out of picture for US players, many want/have moved there, seems like they should be reviewed.

SBR doesn't support exchanges.

**tofuman** · 03-16-11, 03:22 PM

betmaker, review exchanges. they save us money.

**pokerplayer22** · 03-16-11, 03:33 PM

Definately agree that Heritage deserves a bump to A- or A.

Ive dabbled in a book called Northbet...They actually seem pretty good.

**Dark Horse** · 03-18-11, 05:43 AM

Betislands. Site says they've been paying people since 2004. Jon, previously with Wagerchief, is running the operation. Need more info on this book. No SBR listing.

**Hareeba!** · 03-18-11, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by pokerplayer22

Definately agree that Heritage deserves a bump to A- or A.

Ive dabbled in a book called Northbet...They actually seem pretty good.

how can you rate a book which selectively chooses who can play ?

**blackf1re** · 03-18-11, 08:08 AM

SBObet and 188bet.

**igor 11** · 03-18-11, 08:18 AM

SBObet,Dafabet

**relaaxx** · 03-18-11, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Betislands. Site says they've been paying people since 2004. Jon, previously with Wagerchief, is running the operation. Need more info on this book. No SBR listing.

because jon is at betislands - would like to see some rating here - i'll be giving them a shot no matter what the rating would be now - sure it will get better with jon running the place.

**lacoste** · 03-18-11, 10:40 AM

SBOBET and 188bet

**kpoutlaw** · 03-18-11, 11:16 AM

Definitely second 188bet...They have Korean agents for us bettors in Korea and live betting for Korean sports..I know this may be a little off topic, but is it worth it to buy dollars off of the buy exchange rate for Korean currency at 5% commission through a Korean agent or just use Neteller to deposit and withdraw dollars Free of Charge?