SBR what's with the latest matchbook rumor of a big announcement in the next month

[Hareeba!]

why do MB limit withdrawals to just $2500 a time?

[heyman]

Exactly, they are using them. At a price to the rest of us non-abusers. This was once an amazing client to book relationship when it came to moving money, until people, obviously you included, started abusing and abusing and abusing. The "help" that is needed is you controlling your finances.

Deposits are reimbursed and withdrawals are very reasonable, no one should have any complaints.

Rollover only punishes those who use(d) matchbook as a pass-thru.

[heyman]

Asinine. Sports betting won't be legal in the next 50 years in the US. Even if it were legalized tomorrow, the current big offshore shops wouldn't be going anywhere.

First, 50 years is a long time but I suppose people here like to make blanket uninformed statements without offering any reasoning.

Second, sports betting isn't illegal in the practical sense. The Wire Act can be interpreted either way and placing bets isn't affected by the UIGEA. Government agencies/officials can say whatever they like to scare people but what matters is that no better (not facilitator) has been indicted/convicted outside of I believe one man who the government mistook for (or might have been) a bookie.

[heyman]

why do MB limit withdrawals to just $2500 a time?

Check is $3000. For more then that, talk to them - you will find a solution.

[Dark Horse]

heyman, did they give you a cape too, or just a mask?

[RickySteve]

First, 50 years is a long time but I suppose people here like to make blanket uninformed statements without offering any reasoning.

Second, sports betting isn't illegal in the practical sense. The Wire Act can be interpreted either way and placing bets isn't affected by the UIGEA. Government agencies/officials can say whatever they like to scare people but what matters is that no better (not facilitator) has been indicted/convicted outside of I believe one man who the government mistook for (or might have been) a bookie.

Who the f ck is talking about criminalizing bettors? In the future please have 5% of a clue about the flow and context within the thread before commenting on posts.

[rookie]

Thank you. But that is just Experian's credit report, there's no information there except their credit, board members (no ownership), and any legal/court notices. It's not a balance sheet.

I also mentioned One Source database. It's a paid site and someone in a research company pulled the info about Euro Sports Exchange for me.

heyman:
Not sure what your responding to. WSEX has a parent company, so? What does this have to do with matchbook?

In post# 17, you said: That has nothing to do with the ownership of either WSEX or Matchbook. When I mentioned the WSEX's ownership details on their website, you say it has nothing to do with matchbook.

And if it has nothing to do with matchbook, why do you have so much interest in the source of my information regarding the parent company of WSEX ? You are matchbook's representative, not WSEX's. Right ?

[heyman]

I quoted this:
“Is Euro Sports Exchange still linked to both ? It used to be (and maybe still is) owner of WSEX and processor of Matchbook (or something similar) ?”
And stated this:
“We already know that they use(d) the same check processors. That has nothing to do with the ownership of either WSEX or Matchbook.”

You stated that Euro Sports Exchange is the parent company of WSEX and that there was/is a link between WSEX and matchbook. I clarified this by saying that they shared functions but that doesn’t tell us anything of either ownership.

I’m still not sure what you’re arguing with me about, I guess that Euro Sports Exchange is the parent company. But that is known. It was in the quote and I haven’t denied it, nor do I care. What isn’t know is the ownership as I said. And yes, I am looking for information about Matchbook, but I consider information about WSEX relevant because there is a possible ownership tie (that we still don’t know anything about). Euro Sports Exchange is a shell company (for tax/liability benefits) given the information. It tells us nothing about the ownership of WSEX or matchbook, only their corporate structure, as I've already said. Are you saying that WSEX isn’t wholly owned by Euro Sports Exchange or Euro Sports Exchange has (other?) subsidiaries?

I am looking for information (see below, or my first post).

I also mentioned One Source database. It's a paid site and someone in a research company pulled the info about Euro Sports Exchange for me.

I saw the Experian report some time ago. You said there was information at Santo’s link or One Source - I took that as they led to the same info. Does One Source have any (useful) information that is not in the Experian report? There website says this about their research (the rest looks to be behind the money wall):
“Drill down into corporate family structures, relevant news stories, trade articles, SEC filings, and other financial information to analyze the financial health and business status of clients, prospects, business partners and other companies.”
How did they obtain their information?

why do you have so much interest in the source of my information regarding the parent company of WSEX ?

If you state something as fact people will ask/doubt how you know it. But I'll answer your personal questions anyway - I have money offshore. Money is always at risk, I want to know what that risk is. Matchbook has possible ownership ties to WSEX, so WSEX also interests me.

You are matchbook's representative, not WSEX's. Right ?

Not a representative for either and never said so.

[heyman]

Who the f ck is talking about criminalizing bettors?

Yeah, read your post too quickly. You certainly implied that in the other thread earlier and I thought you were saying that here.

In the future please have 5% of a clue about the flow and context within the thread before commenting on posts.

Pleasant.

[heyman]

heyman, did they give you a cape too, or just a mask?

Those who can't argue the points, (try to) argue the person.

[lukahh]

ok heyman, thanks for tirelessly defending matchbook (not sure if they need the defending at all).
hope they at least give you some comission credits for it.

[Dark Horse]

75% chance that he works for MB. Only topic he's interested in. He seems obsessed with it, to the point where he corrected a remark that I had posted something 'two years ago' with the assurance that it was 20 months ago. lol If he doesn't work for MB he's a self-appointed caped cruisader, as in: OMG, it's the heyman!

[trixtrix]

Any site that would give Lenny 500k in credit, even if it was through an agent, shows some real poor decision making

right, and the billions invested in bear and lehman stocks and bonds by investors are ALL real poor decision making according to you. so are the millions in cash posted by common bettors when cascade went under.

sh-t happens, whether or not matchbook showed poor judgment is mostly determined by timing. 4 years ago, if matchbook offered lenny 5 MILLION in credit everyone here would've lauded it

[heyman]

Only topic he's interested in.

Wrong. You don’t know anything about me. But it is the topic I’m most interested in.

Actually, could you point me to the threads where posters habitually attack other top books’ (Greek/BetJamaica, Bookmaker/Cris, Pinnacle etc.) finances and ownership based on unfounded anonymous ill-sourced old rumors?

He seems obsessed with it

You have made it a trend to post unfounded speculation about matchbook. I refute your posts then you retract your position, disappear, or make personal ad hominem attacks.

By the way, if you think I am on matchbook’s side then it would be easy to find posts of mine about matchbook that are incorrect or based on speculation/rumor. You won’t find any - I treat the topic fairly. It is easy to find posts of yours that make you look biased against matchbook, however.

he corrected a remark that I had posted something 'two years ago' with the assurance that it was 20 months ago. lol

Assurance? You said 2-3 years, and I said it wasn’t. It was the most minor of all the points in a long list of counters to a specific post of yours, none of which you responded to, as defending your original position was understandably untenable. The only reason that I even brought up the date was because you were trying to distance yourself and obfuscate the facts as the date was literally spelled out in the post above.

75% chance that he works for MB.

More incorrect speculation from Dark_Horse.

75% chance that he works for MB.

If he doesn't work for MB he's a self-appointed caped cruisader, as in: OMG, it's the heyman!

He seems obsessed with it

This is your second personal post about me in a row.

[heyman]

ok heyman, thanks for tirelessly defending matchbook (not sure if they need the defending at all).

Yeah, obviously can't imagine they do. I come here for some industry news, but only got actively involved in this forum again when I saw some particularly incorrect/malicious things being written.

hope they at least give you some comission credits for it.

Wouldn't ask for or accept them. I'll defend them when they deserve it as they're on top now, but I'll criticize them if I feel they deserve it at any point.

[minet123]

Well is SBR going to say anything

[Fishhead]

Well is SBR going to say anything

Minet, new ownership has taken over...........head over to EOG.