SBR what's with the latest matchbook rumor of a big announcement in the next month

[minet123]

Not that i trust these little "bobo" forums and their made up the sky is falling to get views
BUT
Any site that would give Lenny 500k in credit, even if it was through an agent, shows some real poor decision making
Plus a complete lack of marketing...except for Fishead's free forum posts and a tragically paid for banner
The complete secrecy in who owns them or is backing them and the fact that they have never officially distanced themselves from Jay
I just hope that SBR is on top of anything that might be floating around
and will be the first to warn us if something does go down

[heyman]

Not that i trust these little "bobo" forums and their made up the sky is falling to get views
BUT
Any site that would give Lenny 500k in credit, even if it was through an agent, shows some real poor decision making
Plus a complete lack of marketing...except for Fishead's free forum posts and a tragically paid for banner
The complete secrecy in who owns them or is backing them and the fact that they have never officially distanced themselves from Jay
I just hope that SBR is on top of anything that might be floating around
and will be the first to warn us if something does go down

How many matchbook threads are needed?

I reposted your comment here by the way:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/608943-matchbook-safety.html

[trumpdown]

Yes, I believe some answers are in order.

[Chuck Sims]

As long as the big boys, Greek, CRIS, Pinnacle are doing 5 figure transfers with Matchbook, I would put their safety as good.

For obvious reasons, the people behind Matchbook do not want to go public. I do wish they would at least make one post to put to bed any thought that WSEX aka Cascade II is somehow backing them. LOL!

[Fishhead]

They appear solid as a rock

[Hareeba!]

For obvious reasons, the people behind Matchbook do not want to go public.

so what are these "obvious" reasons ?

[sdtrader]

What big announcement are you possibly even referring to?

[bookie]

He's referring to a post by The Chaperone on as mall forum. It was an offhand aside about expecting MB to have an announcement in a month and about being pessimistic about the future of offshore sports betting. The Chaperone is a Vegas guy, but not an idiot (was profiled in King Yao's book)...so people are scrambling to get clarification about what he may or may not know.

Best guess so far is about a possible raise in commission rates once baseball is over.

[Chuck Sims]

so what are these "obvious" reasons ?

Because the mob aka U.S. govt will steal the money and put the owners in jail.

[Santo]

so what are these "obvious" reasons ?

A desire to travel to/from/through the US?

[RickySteve]

He's referring to a post by The Chaperone on as mall forum. It was an offhand aside about expecting MB to have an announcement in a month and about being pessimistic about the future of offshore sports betting. The Chaperone is a Vegas guy, but not an idiot (was profiled in King Yao's book)...so people are scrambling to get clarification about what he may or may not know.

Best guess so far is about a possible raise in commission rates once baseball is over.

Chaperone lives in Washington not Vegas. I don't think it's all that likely he knows anything about what is going on with Matchbook. (Matchbook doesn't even know what's going on at Matchbook.)

[DBurton81]

Matchbook is way overhyped

[Hareeba!]

Matchbook is way overhyped

don't waste any words explaining your statement

[Pokerjoe]

As long as the big boys, Greek, CRIS, Pinnacle are doing 5 figure transfers with Matchbook, I would put their safety as good.

This sums it up.

[rookie]

For obvious reasons, the people behind Matchbook do not want to go public. I do wish they would at least make one post to put to bed any thought that WSEX aka Cascade II is somehow backing them. LOL!

Is Euro Sports Exchange still linked to both ? It used to be (and maybe still is) owner of WSEX and processor of Matchbook (or something similar) ?

It's a London based company with Mark Mendel as the "ultimate controlling party" and Zoe Turner as another director (Source: Abbreviated Balance Sheet of the company for the year 2009).

[Mudcat]

If forum scuttlebutt was reliable, Matchbook would have been dead years ago.

[heyman]

It's a London based company with Mark Mendel as the "ultimate controlling party" and Zoe Turner as another director (Source: Abbreviated Balance Sheet of the company for the year 2009).

How do you know any of this?

Mark Mendel the attorney of the Antigua WTO case?

Where's the link for the source? You have the Balance Sheet of WSEX or Matchbook or the parent company if it exists (what is the company?)? How would you have this? They don't need to disclose their financial statements as it is a closely held privately owned company.

Is Euro Sports Exchange still linked to both ? It used to be (and maybe still is) owner of WSEX and processor of Matchbook (or something similar) ?

We already know that they use(d) the same check processors. That has nothing to do with the ownership of either WSEX or Matchbook.

[Santo]

http://www.alacrastore.com/storecontent/experian/04626668

[rookie]

How do you know any of this?

Mark Mendel the attorney of the Antigua WTO case?

Where's the link for the source? You have the Balance Sheet of WSEX or Matchbook or the parent company if it exists (what is the company?)? How would you have this? They don't need to disclose their financial statements as it is a closely held privately owned company.


We already know that they use(d) the same check processors. That has nothing to do with the ownership of either WSEX or Matchbook.

Have you ever browsed wsex.com ?

From FAQ section:

This site is owned and operated by EURO SPORTS EXCHANGE LIMITED, 11-15 WILLIAM ROAD, LONDON NW1 3ER, U.K. All financial transaction are processed through EURO SPORTS EXCHANGE LIMITED, 11-15 WILLIAM ROAD, LONDON NW1 3ER, U.K.

You can look for info through the link posted by Santo or One Source database.

[Salamander]

If the average forum member didn't make about 3 or 4 dozen financial transaction to/from Matchbook every year, maybe they wouldn't be bleeding to death. Do you folks really really have to move money around so much? Can't you get a grip on your finances? Clowns, fukk things up for the rest of us.

[Hareeba!]

If the average forum member didn't make about 3 or 4 dozen financial transaction to/from Matchbook every year, maybe they wouldn't be bleeding to death. Do you folks really really have to move money around so much? Can't you get a grip on your finances? Clowns, fukk things up for the rest of us.

MB "bleeding to death" ?

wtf are you on?

[Dr.Gonzo]

If the average forum member didn't make about 3 or 4 dozen financial transaction to/from Matchbook every year, maybe they wouldn't be bleeding to death. Do you folks really really have to move money around so much? Can't you get a grip on your finances? Clowns, fukk things up for the rest of us.

They charge for a lot of transactions and give you commission credits.

[Salamander]

Not good enough. Stop with so many fukking transactions you twits, get your finances in order!

hareeba you must be one of those clowns who has to make a transaction every other day, blow it for the rest of us

[Dark Horse]

Not good enough. Stop with so many fukking transactions you twits, get your finances in order!

hareeba you must be one of those clowns who has to make a transaction every other day, blow it for the rest of us

Do you understand the implication of what you're saying?

[Salamander]

Yes, they are not a regular book making huge profits from dumb drunk twits. This is an exchange with limited income from commissions.

What are you advocating, transactions 6 times a day? This will help their botton line?

wtf are you talking about in puzzles for.

[Dark Horse]

Yes, they are not a regular book making huge profits from dumb drunk twits. This is an exchange with limited income from commissions.

What are you advocating, transactions 6 times a day? This will help their botton line?

wtf are you talking about in puzzles for.

First, you have no idea how often people withdraw money. And when money comes in, there is a rollover requirement.

Secondly, withdrawing money shouldn't be a problem at all. This is an exchange. Players funds are kept secure in a separate bank account (as with Tradesports), and MB has a constant flow of guaranteed income off commissions, with absolutely no risk to them... Right?

Or wrong?

[Salamander]

That's right there is a rollover requirement, THER NEVER USED TO BE!!!

Until the transaction abusers kept abusing and abusing and abusing.

Now when I do my 2 or 3 transactions year, they have to check to make sure I am not using them as bank, money in and then straight out.

Transaction abuse has brought rollovers about, situation is getting worse and worse, what next!!!

Stop with the abuse. There is no need for it if you get your finances in order!!!

[Hareeba!]

Not good enough. Stop with so many fukking transactions you twits, get your finances in order!

hareeba you must be one of those clowns who has to make a transaction every other day, blow it for the rest of us

utter BS ...since 23/03/09 I've made 6 deposits and 12 withdrawals .. it would have been just 4 withdrawals if they didn't have a $2500 limit on them

[lukahh]

That's right there is a rollover requirement, THER NEVER USED TO BE!!!

Until the transaction abusers kept abusing and abusing and abusing.

Now when I do my 2 or 3 transactions year, they have to check to make sure I am not using them as bank, money in and then straight out.

Transaction abuse has brought rollovers about, situation is getting worse and worse, what next!!!

Stop with the abuse. There is no need for it if you get your finances in order!!!

if a book wants to discourage constant cas in&outs (and i'm sure it does), they have means to do that (and they are using them).

get help.

[Salamander]

if a book wants to discourage constant cas in&outs (and i'm sure it does), they have means to do that (and they are using them).

get help.

Exactly, they are using them. At a price to the rest of us non-abusers. This was once an amazing client to book relationship when it came to moving money, until people, obviously you included, started abusing and abusing and abusing. The "help" that is needed is you controlling your finances.

[Bill Dozer]

We aren't aware of any rumors. But, if any book or person is going to invest or buy a sportsbook the time to see what youre buying is September. That is the optimal time to see what a book is worth and gauging how many active players there are, what decent advertising is invested, and what banking they have.

This is what is going on with Jazz Sportsbook right now.

[gman2114]

one screwed up thread. online gambling will be legal in a few years for NA thus all of these off shore books will be gone. just UK and NA books will exist.

[lukahh]

Exactly, they are using them. At a price to the rest of us non-abusers. This was once an amazing client to book relationship when it came to moving money, until people, obviously you included, started abusing and abusing and abusing. The "help" that is needed is you controlling your finances.

i'd hardly be able to be included my friend, as i don't have account w/ matchbook.

[RickySteve]

one screwed up thread. online gambling will be legal in a few years for NA thus all of these off shore books will be gone. just UK and NA books will exist.

Asinine. Sports betting won't be legal in the next 50 years in the US. Even if it were legalized tomorrow, the current big offshore shops wouldn't be going anywhere.

[heyman]

http://www.alacrastore.com/storecont...erian/04626668

You can look for info through the link posted by Santo or One Source database.

Thank you. But that is just Experian's credit report, there's no information there except their credit, board members (no ownership), and any legal/court notices. It's not a balance sheet.

Have you ever browsed wsex.com ?

From FAQ section:

This site is owned and operated by EURO SPORTS EXCHANGE LIMITED, 11-15 WILLIAM ROAD, LONDON NW1 3ER, U.K. All financial transaction are processed through EURO SPORTS EXCHANGE LIMITED, 11-15 WILLIAM ROAD, LONDON NW1 3ER, U.K.

Not sure what your responding to. WSEX has a parent company, so? What does this have to do with matchbook?



you said:

Is Euro Sports Exchange still linked to both ? It used to be (and maybe still is) owner of WSEX and processor of Matchbook (or something similar) ?

Neither of these sentences tell us anything about ownership of matchbook as I said above in #17. We already know the two shared some functions; as always we know nothing about the ownership.