[lonnie55]

It did happen to me on couple of occasions in a way where I place the bet, order goes into statuses you have described and only later shows that it is accepted even though I have clicked Cancel... Explanation was that the bet "started placing and system lost connection with the book", sometimes it can be annoying, yes, but not much can be done there if the bet actually was placed with the bookmaker.

Did you get a screenshot of your bet with the bookmaker to confirm the bet was placed?

Thanks Alfie.

No, I didn't get a screenshot. As you might know I'm currently using Bet-IBC who are totally uncooperative. They just said "No one will believe you. Show screenshot or video" etc

[Alfie White]

Maybe check logs and see what happened there? I find "old" logs better than new ones...

And regardless who is the broker, they should be able to provide you with a betslip upon request.

[lonnie55]

I already checked the logs (I still use the old version). They don't say anything about a cancellation.

But nevermind. I was just curious if this happened to any of you guys before.

[Alfa1234]

Has happened a few times to me, as Alfie says I think it has to do with Molly loosing the connection right after sending the order but before getting the confirmation back from the bookie that the bet actually got placed.

[Ruifgalmeida]

mollybet is very bad, I always have to double check if I have bet or not, sometimes bets ge cancelled and I dont know why, and never I get the fullbet.
lonnie why are you using Bet-IBC? Absolute worst broker out there

[lonnie55]

lonnie why are you using Bet-IBC? Absolute worst broker out there

I have gone from AC to SM and now been trying BET-IBC for some months. AC and SM are not useable anymore with those limits.

Which broker would you recommend that
- has same or better limits
- same or lower fees
- Mollybet or a bettter platform
- and is established?

[Alfie White]

"No one will believe you. Show screenshot or video"

[Ruifgalmeida]

I have gone from AC to SM and now been trying BET-IBC for some months. AC and SM are not useable anymore with those limits.

Which broker would you recommend that
- has same or better limits
- same or lower fees
- Mollybet or a bettter platform
- and is established?

How much are you betting? I thought that limits in SM and bet-ibc where the same.
I am not that big player, maximum 500€, so can not help you, can't you use two brokers at the same time?
But my experience with Bet-ibc was simply horrible , lost alot of money with their stupid scam fees, be very careful.

[lonnie55]

How much are you betting? I thought that limits in SM and bet-ibc where the same.
I am not that big player, maximum 500€, so can not help you, can't you use two brokers at the same time?
But my experience with Bet-ibc was simply horrible , lost alot of money with their stupid scam fees, be very careful.

I need the full Pinnacle limits. My average stake is not higher than yours but sometimes there are games where you need maximum limits.

[Brooklyn]

Lonnie, I always thought that your bread & butter are hundreds of less known soft Sportbooks and their not corectly set/copied opening odds for lower level soccer leagues.

If it's not a secret, what's the reason to have an account at Brokers who offer sharp Sportbooks only, with almost always correct odds?

[curry2211]

... sharp Sportbooks only, with almost always correct odds?

This so called sharp sportsbooks make a lot of mistakes in minor leagues as well. Another thing is, if you know about that and hit these lines early you can create nic hedge oppurtunities (also with your slow soft books which just follow the movements)

[lonnie55]

@Brooklyn What curry2211 said

[trytrytry]

good thread

[Brooklyn]

Thank you both, Curry and Lonnie.

I never thought that sharp Asian books make many mistakes on smaller leagues as well.

It makes perfect sense now.

[Ruifgalmeida]

Thank you both, Curry and Lonnie.

I never thought that sharp Asian books make many mistakes on smaller leagues as well.

It makes perfect sense now.

Asian bookies don't have a clue, they offer amateurs league that they know nothing about, they simply put lines with small stakes and hope for the best

[RoyW]

I have gone from AC to SM and now been trying BET-IBC for some months. AC and SM are not useable anymore with those limits.

Which broker would you recommend that
- has same or better limits
- same or lower fees
- Mollybet or a bettter platform
- and is established?

Can i ask you Lonnie.
I've read a couple times about not high enough limits on brokers. I kinda ask myself always what you guys mean by that, as i am using a broker as well since awhile and even when there's only 1 or 2 bookies available on some less used markets (goals for home or away for example) you can still place as much as you like because it keeps trying to place with multiple accounts on that bookie at the requested odd. So especially with raising odds you eventually get there, no matter what the stake would be?

[LobStarMX]

Lmao, which broker service are you using then?

there is no way you can bet "as much as you like" on exotic leagues with only sbo, ibc, isn available

[lonnie55]

Can i ask you Lonnie.
I've read a couple times about not high enough limits on brokers. I kinda ask myself always what you guys mean by that, as i am using a broker as well since awhile and even when there's only 1 or 2 bookies available on some less used markets (goals for home or away for example) you can still place as much as you like because it keeps trying to place with multiple accounts on that bookie at the requested odd. So especially with raising odds you eventually get there, no matter what the stake would be?

I focus on early market bets on minor leagues which means
- low limits
- odds won't rise until kickoff in, I'd say, 8-9/10 cases. If odds rise though, that usually means I made a mistake OR the market is acting irrationally

[BAUS]

Bet IBC is the absolute worst broker. Avoid them at all costs.

BAUS

[RoyW]

Lmao, which broker service are you using then?

there is no way you can bet "as much as you like" on exotic leagues with only sbo, ibc, isn available

I think its possible. Currently i dont stake higher than 2k,but even when you stake 10k, eventually you'd get there, even with lower leagues and 3 books available (let's say max 600 stake). Especially when odds are rising like when match goes inplay and you do overs.

[RoyW]

I focus on early market bets on minor leagues which means
- low limits
- odds won't rise until kickoff in, I'd say, 8-9/10 cases. If odds rise though, that usually means I made a mistake OR the market is acting irrationally

Okay now it makes sense yes in that situation. Different strategies! Thanks for clearing it up.

[jjgold]

Brokers are not regulated

[Okocha]

None Ionnie. All are scammers,and the ones that arent,are taking mickey mouse action

[littlekona]

Brokers are not regulated

LOL Regulated...For most of us here regulation means nothing...If an A+ book here like 5dimes decided to say bye bye your regulation would get ya a whole lot of nothing

[infotimbo]

LOL Regulated...For most of us here regulation means nothing...If an A+ book here like 5dimes decided to say bye bye your regulation would get ya a whole lot of nothing

it all comes with pros and cons. In Germany for example, we are likely to get a regulated market soon, with 5 million+ bank guarantees needed to get a license, player's money on safe accounts and stuff like that - but I guess there's no doubt that odds will be significantly worse as a result (also because there's a 5% tax deduction anyway).

And if you have the choice to make money on a non-regulated book, or to make no money on a regulated one...

[Tom R.]

Which brokers have interface to access books/exchanges like Vodds, where I don't need login manually to each one?

[infotimbo]

Which brokers have interface to access books/exchanges like Vodds, where I don't need login manually to each one?

more or less everyone, I think, basically all using a similar kind of software. At Sportmarket it's called "Sportmarket Pro", bet-ibc has its "VIP-IBC" product, Asianconnect "Asianodds88" and most others are offering some kind of "Mollybet" account.

[Sawyer]

Molly is good. Molly is much better then Asianodds because of Betfair factor. Didn't tried Sportmarket pro. BET-IBC doesn't sound very trustworthy to me.

[Tom R.]

Registered on VODDS: limits on SBO and Pin in 2times less then in 'original' accounts.

Which brokers give limits on SBO larger then in 'original' account?

And which brokers have bookies clones Dafabet (what this bookmakers 'name')?

[sadekmeister]

And which brokers have bookies clones Dafabet (what this bookmakers 'name')?

For example BetInAsia and AsianConnect and it's available under names such as Maxbet or IBC.

[Tom R.]

Which brokers have 10bet and 18bet/babibet(prematch and Live) markets?

[craftbrewer]

10bet-none. 18bet- premium tradings, betinasia

[sadekmeister]

10bet-none. 18bet- premium tradings, betinasia

I'm using betinasia and can't see 18bet's odds.

[Ruifgalmeida]

I'm using betinasia and can't see 18bet's odds.

Strange, all Mollybet platform have 18bet, maybe by default they blocked it.

[Jogador]

I'm using Sportmarket. Had BetIBC in the past. Dumped them for too high commissions and annoying Singbet voids. BetIBC's support though was better. No KYC, no questions asked. Paid very quick (both of them).