In light of these latest allegations of threats from SIA,then i really think that this book should be down graded and if Justin has any sense of decency in him he will report SIA and their bullyboy tactics to the authorities over there.This book obviously thinks that it is above the law and can do whatever it wants to whoever it wants,this can`t be allowed to happen.
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Forum talk is easy, and people like to pile on. The claims should be investigated.
I don't think ratings are Justin's department.Comment -
I wonder, when SIA make threats against a player and his family, what they intend doing ... kindnap the kids?Comment -
That's some extremely serious behaviour that SIA are reported to be perpetrating. Seriously, if they're up to this sort of thing then that's off the end of the scale at F- (G for gangsters?)... They sound more like old-fashioned thugs than a serious business. Not glamorous like the movies, just deeply nasty.Comment -
pretty sure they pay SBR. there really cant be any other explanation. they have big advertising dollars tyed up in online forums as well..so everyone turns a blind eye. you go to covers.com, and immediatly are hit with a sia popup.
ill let this forum know for sure if they make any threats towards me. cause im pretty sure if they are into that thing.. ill deffinitly feel there wrath when they see what i have in store for them lol.Comment -
Hellodestiny (and everyone else following this drama),
SIA has confirmed that the player did nothing wrong, and this is a screw up between the card and the processor.
Your account has been reset as ok, and balance set to $0 (I think it was -$50).
There is still another issue: did you deposit $50, and make a losing $50 parlay? Everything you've told me so far has been true. I have recommended that SIA send the $50 back to your card, or send you $50.Comment -
And re: Padael; they have asked for additional documents that establish the player's residence.. Once the player provides them, we'll move forward.Comment -
any proof to what you have said Mammoth?Comment -
i did not make that 50 dollar deposit / bet. umm.. thats what this whole problem with me has been about...lol they stole my money by charging my credit card. they can reopen my account all they want. i wont be using a fraud book. is them blaming there thievery on my card / there processor the easy out they needed to avoid admitting what they did, thus avoiding a downgrade here on sbr?Comment -
of course there is proof to this.
not only did I attach the document for 3rd party that they sent us to fill out, we had justin listen to all of their tapes where they stated that they knew it was my credit card and melissa's account , they just wanted the form filled out with copies of our utility bill. etc..... we provided all of that. guess they thought we couldnt. they said once that is in-house the check will go out.
they recieved it within minutes and then next day told us they are refunding our card only. Justin said the book was right even though he has all forms and tape copies. said we were in the wrong. SIA is a fraud scam. they pay alot to advertise everywhere. with justin on the payroll, sbr has their back for sure.Comment -
I v never seen so many issues and negative vibe against one book in such a short period of time ... SIA perhaps you should look in the mirror and rethink your actions ... I have read quite a lot on this forum in the past few weeks and haven't come across any book (except the D- rated www.sportsbook.com) who had the audacity of confiscating players winnings after accepting their deposits and bets ...
closing player account because you lost money to them is ridiculous (do you think that if you advertised on your site that ONLY clients who lose money are welcome ... you would have one single client sign up with you?) but confiscating they winnings and making threats against their families if they don't drop their complaints, is mafia style business practice... are you sure that this is where you want to be?
I read over 500 topics on this forum in the past few weeks and I haven't heard one bad word on this forum against Betjamaica, Heritage, Pinnacle, 5Dimes, The Greek... only good and they seem to run pretty decent businesses without closing clients accounts when they win or confiscating their winning for some undisclosed reasons... surely they have similar clientele to yours ... they simply run their business and make sure that their lines are maintained in line with the market trends... if you think that you are going to protect your business by confiscating clients winnings, perhaps you should think again... learning from a D rated books like sportsbook.com is perhaps the wrong place to look for advise... rather look and Pinnacle, the Greek, betjamaica... adopting their way of doing business will take SIA a lot further without a question of doubt.Comment -
is it humorous how there are a couple of people that actually side with SIA although they repeatedly screw people over?
This book should NOT be in business, but as long as sbr and others support its no-ethic policies, I guess we will continue to get horror stories.
SIA- its books like this that will cause a downfall for the US customers. not people that charge back after being ripped off."The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side". RIP Hunter S ThompsonComment -
It seems that SIA have that self destruction tendency. Since the time they confiscated player's money in 2007 they figured out that they need to improve their bad reputation. They did so by paying players on time, offering good odds, a wide variety of sports and not doing anything which resulted in their rating downgrade in the past. In fact I do not remember anything negative against them for years... it got to a stage that players started talking positively about them and as a result their rating on SBR improved to C-.
However it seems that SIA couldn't handle the good fortune which they worked so hard to achive and it didnt take long before they wiped it all out in one smack... it took one week of money confiscation campaign which is the exact reason why they were downgraded the last time in 2006/7... and I ask myself why? why would a book who worked so hard to rebuild its reputation in the market during the past 2 years would destroy it in a day? and the search for the answer brings me to the well known story of the 'Scorpion and the Frog' which I m sure many of you know very well but nevertheless please allow me to tell the story for those who may have not heard it:
The Scorpion and the Frog
One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.
The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.
Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.
"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"
"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.
"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"
Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"
"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"
"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.
"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"
So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.
Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.
"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"
The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.
"I could not help myself. It is my nature."
Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.
Self destruction - "Its my Nature", said the Scorpion...Comment -
SIA have always been a crooked book and it looks they will always be. I haven't been using them in many years, got screwed from them as well back in 2005. At that time I gave up after 50-60 e-mails because it was not that much money. Still I don't understand how people can use them because stories like mine and this are popping up frequently on different forums. I recommend everyone to stay away from them as far as possible. They have been screwing players years ago and they still screw players now.Comment -
Forgot to mention one thing. How come they are a C- book in the ratings? They should be in the F category and nowhere else!Comment -
you know this. i know this. the thousands of people who have been robbed by them know this. the problem is , we dont matter because we dont pay sbortsbook review and other sites advertising and back door dollars. so they will continue to have this liscence to steal.
spread the word
sportsinteraction.com is a scam F- bookComment -
I love it!!! they are getting everything they deserve.
hey justin, are we all wrong???? is all all our faults cause we are attention whores???
do you see the amount of people that have gotten ripped?
wish we could file some sort of class action suit. I will pm you hellodstny, but remember when we pm, the mods read that stuff. we can exchange email addy;s and I can tell you what all is in the works with the anti SIA website etc....
peace"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side". RIP Hunter S ThompsonComment -
Some years back, there was a similar situation with a Greek gambler. SIA confiscated all his balance with absolutely no reason. That guy went to all gambling forums and exposed SIA. He finaly got his money back. So it seems that the only way to get paid by SIA, is publicity.
I dont believe that we are all wrong about SIA. Maybe justin has other reasons not to see it.Comment -
What's intriguing is how many people whove never been to SBR etc had the same stunt pulled on them by SIA, and gave up the unequal lone fight to get their money back, since there's not much you can do on your own. Their level of criminal behaviour is probably far higher than simply what's visible on forums like this.Comment -
It does seem strange how they have been defended and defended by some people, on both this and other threads. I know that each complaint needs to be investigated, and that each OP will have put their own slant on things, but the sheer number is too much to be a coincidence.
I have been a member of many, many books over the years and have learned that there is usually no smoke without fire.Comment -
LOL you have a site in the works too? thats hillarious, that means when someone googles sportsinteraction the top 3 hits will be the real site and 2 anti sites hahahahhaha
thats awesome
on the phone i gave them one more chance. i said you dont want to do this to me over 50 friggen bucks.
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yes. it does seem strange. too strange. untill you start putting the pieces together. advertising dollars speak large volumes.
best qoute on my times on the board here was justing saying he believes there actually a B book lmao. unfortunatly most people realize how much of a lie that would be and probably stop using this site if they graded them that high. im sure that talk between sbr and sia has allready takin place. " hey how come were only a C-?" .. "well.. cause if we stretched any further , to like a B, everyone would know you pay us off for sure, and not take this site seriously"Comment -
I have noticed that this topic has attracted a lot of attention of many people who got emotionally involved with my story. So I feel obliged to provide a brief status report as to where we stand with that right now. I have to admit that despite what people have said here about Justin, he ran this issue very efficiently.
Here is the brief update:
- The whole story started with SIA denying that a person with my name actually exists and if I do exist then I certainly do not live in the address provided on registration as it is an industrial area.
- I offered them to go onto to Google earth and verify that the address is in a residential area and not industrial.
- SIA subsequently contacted the Municipality offices of the city I live in and verified that I indeed live in the address provided.
- However they were still not satisfied so they requested more documents, clearly not to verify my address (which they had already done with the Municipality offices) but more to verify my current existence. They asked for documents such as my ISP account and my bank statement. Unfortunately most of my mail these days is addressed to my PO Box … I only found a couple of subscriptions which are addressed to my home address. I scanned the bank statement and the ISP account as well 3 other documents some which are address to my home address and some which are addressed to my PO Box and emailed it to them.
- SIA are still not satisfied with the 5 documents which emailed them stating with these documents they cannot verify my address. But they already confirmed that my address is correct in an email to Justin dated October, 28… so I am not sure what SIA are really up to.
They verified the validity of my address; they got my current accounts which prove that I am real, alive and kicking. So now I only hope that SIA will come to their senses and accept that their paranoia regarding my identity is a waist of time and not doing much to their reputation.Comment -
It seems to me that Padael has provided everything that SIA has asked for and it has all been verified,but they still refuse to pay him what is rightfully his.What the hell is going on here Justin?...are you really on the payroll of SIA?
If SIA refuse to pay Padael then i really don`t see how you have any other choice but to downgrade SIA to a scam and remove all advertising from your site.There may well be people who play there with no problems at the moment,but that may well change,and i would put money on it changing.Comment -
Sounds like big big bullshit to me. All requested documents provided and still nothing????? Give me break, please. The only thing I can say about this is "scam". Would be nice if Justin here could explain what is going on?Comment -
I think that SBR just gets paid to clean up their mess. OSGA promotes them. but jim is a scum bag piece of shit anyway. they all come off as watchdogs to help the gambler when in reality they get paid off to screw the gambler. Then they cover it up by making the gambler look bad cause ...well....we are gambling. we are easy targets to get scammed. and SIA jumps on that.
jazzsports.com has paid me over $6,000 in 2 weeks like clockwork. Use them."The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side". RIP Hunter S ThompsonComment -
SIA threatened me with legal action for gnoming.
I wasn't gnoming and never had. These guys are clueless.
It appears that SIA's investigative team is about as sharp as their line manager.Comment -
SIA is rated C- at SBR
"Average to below average customer service with some risk to player funds"
That doesn't exactly sound like an endorsement to me.Comment -
This rating was perhaps correct a few month ago... they have gone completely nuts ... confiscating players money right left and centre, just like that, all of a sudden, again and after behaving themselves for about 2 years ... they must be in a state of desperation... this totally irrational behavior.Comment -
I didn't even have an account at SIA
and they sent me a legal threat about VPNs and IP Spoofs. 
So, I was paid and I wasn't paid. I had nothing there, so there was nothing to be paid. I was shocked when I got the lawyer speak in the mail. Then I realized SIA is clueless overall.
Maybe it was like that epic movie Minority Report. SIA was just cutting me off before my future self gnomed them.Comment
