Wager Chief is quite simply the best online right now A+++

**moonbeam** · 10-13-09, 06:43 PM

I don´t like it when books called me on the phone.

But...great story!

**relaaxx** · 10-13-09, 06:57 PM

great place-----live lines also better than most-----jon and jamie definitely more than fair. have not had a withdrawl yet,but i am sure that will go well--can see me playing there for a long time.

**HedgeHog** · 10-13-09, 06:58 PM

OP also promotes Sportsbook.com---enough said.

**tomcowley** · 10-13-09, 07:01 PM

Does wagerchief offer the half point throughout the week or just on certain days? Like, if you were to bet college football right now, do you get the half point?

**HedgeHog** · 10-13-09, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by tomcowley

Does wagerchief offer the half point throughout the week or just on certain days? Like, if you were to bet college football right now, do you get the half point?

Just Thursday and Friday according to their site.

**Frank** · 10-13-09, 07:06 PM

It was everyday. It was changed last week to Thursday and Friday only.

**bleedblue** · 10-13-09, 07:54 PM

Is the free half pt off of their reduced juice lines?

ie. Right now they have Buff +9.5 -105, NYJ -9.5 -105. So I can get Buf +10 -105?

**Lucas** · 10-13-09, 08:02 PM

this site has probably under 100 visitors/day
i hope it is as great as described, but to compare them with greek/bookmaker ???

**THEGREAT30** · 10-13-09, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

OP also promotes Sportsbook.com---enough said.

Anyone that promotes sportsbook.com

**cinpls081** · 10-13-09, 10:15 PM

This is the problem with this site tell people you get paid and god forbid you are a promoter. let me guess TheGreat30 and hedgehog are 60 fat smoke a pack and a day and haven't sniffed a piece of ass in years. I'm just reporting what my esperience is why is that so bad?

**cinpls081** · 10-13-09, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Lucas

this site has probably under 100 visitors/day
i hope it is as great as described, but to compare them with greek/bookmaker ???

they have better lines and better option again a moron who hasn't collected in years

**cinpls081** · 10-13-09, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Frank

It was everyday. It was changed last week to Thursday and Friday only.

i think they have have changed but I get every day. Is this ok to say hedgehog you fat piece of crap.

**cinpls081** · 10-13-09, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by bleedblue

Is the free half pt off of their reduced juice lines?

ie. Right now they have Buff +9.5 -105, NYJ -9.5 -105. So I can get Buf +10 -105?

yes...again I'm trying to help here but these fools just hate....

**nitzantal** · 10-13-09, 11:00 PM

cinpls081, did they ask you to post here for them... because these books who are poorly rated do that ... they ask customers to say something in the forum for them ... pls be honest.

**mtneer1212** · 10-13-09, 11:06 PM

BetPhoenix now backs Sports-1, Wagerchief, and BetMania -- I believe you will see these brands all perform as well as BetPhoenix going forward. I do not believe there is any shilling going on here, and each of these books have different promotions.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 08:15 AM

OP touts SB.com (D-) and Wagerchief (C+) as top tier books. And if you question his credibility, which is zero, then you get called names. Shill or not, OP wouldn't know an A Book if it bit him in the ass.

**cinpls081** · 10-14-09, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by nitzantal

cinpls081, did they ask you to post here for them... because these books who are poorly rated do that ... they ask customers to say something in the forum for them ... pls be honest.

Look first off NOBODY could get me to post anything on a forum. They are an EXCELLENT BOOK. what else can I say. anytime you say ANYTHING good on this forum you are a tout you lair etc. Why is that? They are not poorly rated at all they are run by bet Pheonix. I had good experience with them so I'm letting people know about A GOOD BOOK and I get HAMMERED why would that be?

**cinpls081** · 10-14-09, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

BetPhoenix now backs Sports-1, Wagerchief, and BetMania -- I believe you will see these brands all perform as well as BetPhoenix going forward. I do not believe there is any shilling going on here, and each of these books have different promotions.

Thank you I'm just letting people know about a good deal to take advantage of. Why is that so bad. Certain people just can't except possitive personal experiece. My opinion is that this is an excellent run book and they give you a nice bonus and a free half point. Sorry for helping out.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 11:11 AM

And your opinion is that SB.com is an excellent Book. Any other shit Books you care to promote? Also, stop PMing me---I don't need another girl friend.

PS For clarification, I have no opinion on Wagerchief. At a C+ rating, they may well be a decent Book. I just wouldn't take your word alone.

**SSLP** · 10-14-09, 12:06 PM

Solid book backed by phoenix 100% , free half points on NFL , good promos and service Dozer himself stated no problem with this is book .
The whole Phoenix family of books has grown to be respected here in CR .

**cinpls081** · 10-14-09, 02:26 PM

yes Sportsbook.com is a very good. That is my opinion I get paid fast and they have good options what is so bad about that. You are a moron hedgehog you then say you don't have an opinion yet you belittle me for no reason and add nothing to this forum. Hedgehog I'm sure you are a fat pig that smokes a pack a day drinks a 6 pack and hasn't seen a women in years. You are a little man that clearly has nothing better to do then come on here and belittle people because of there personal experiences. thats real smart.

**cinpls081** · 10-14-09, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by SSLP

Solid book backed by phoenix 100% , free half points on NFL , good promos and service Dozer himself stated no problem with this is book .
The whole Phoenix family of books has grown to be respected here in CR .

thanks and my opinion is they are a good book. sorry for trying to help the forum.

**HedgeHog** · 10-14-09, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by cinpls081

thanks and my opinion is they are a good book. sorry for trying to help the forum.

Getting your opinion on a sportsbook is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer where are the best places to eat-- your tastes are suspect to say the least. You tout Sportsbook.com in other threads and now feel like you're an expert in telling everyone what an A+ Book is?

**Lucas** · 10-14-09, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by cinpls081

they have better lines and better option again a moron who hasn't collected in years

if you count repeated visits from one visitor and visits of staff and owners, the number 100 real visitors (not players) is probably accurate

compare:

i do not say they do not offer something interesting, but so were many Sportsbooks, that aren`t around anymore

sorry... there are some basic economic fundaments and i would not play at sportsbook that has at least few thousands UIP/day

**SSLP** · 10-14-09, 05:10 PM

Hahaha cool facts so are you saying yoru facts VS Phoenix backing them and Dozer saying they are ok means nothing ?

**cinpls081** · 10-14-09, 05:15 PM

I have a website that has never been used and it says 19 visits per day so this can't be accurate. Intertops gets more then 5Dimes? Intertops gets twice the traffice as Pinny? Come on this is a bs webiste

**Lucas** · 10-14-09, 05:18 PM

yes, phoenix backing them is valid, then why not play directly there
dozer backed BetCascade, dozer is now backing DPT, dozer likes 10Bet... dozer backing is nice correlation but not certainity

**Lucas** · 10-14-09, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by cinpls081

I have a website that has never been used and it says 19 visits per day so this can't be accurate. Intertops gets more then 5Dimes? Intertops gets twice the traffice as Pinny? Come on this is a bs webiste

jesus ****ing christ

of course the data are not rock solid, it is based on alexa, so it overestimates traffic from usa
it is not google analytics, so if there is 5, 19 or 35 means nothing, but if there is 300 it is not 3000, i have few bigger websites than you and the data ARE approximatelly accurate
anyways, you told your opinion, i am saying mine - my recommendation is that to play there is risky, even when i hope i am not right
enjoy your day

**bleedblue** · 10-14-09, 05:34 PM

The thing I find most interesting about Cinpls's posts is that he comes on so strong that it isn't believable. Then people put him in his place, and it ends up being negative publicity for the sites.

Thanks for your posts, Lucas.

**JoshW** · 10-14-09, 07:19 PM

How would those who have played with them describe their wager offerings. They up early with lines, or day of only. They use any BetPhoneix lines, or just their own. Do they offer any MMA?

**Frank** · 10-14-09, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by JoshW

How would those who have played with them describe their wager offerings. They up early with lines, or day of only. They use any BetPhoneix lines, or just their own. Do they offer any MMA?

Same numbers as Phoenix, same offerings, same times, etc.

The only difference is the bonuses/promotions.

**burnedhands** · 10-14-09, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Frank

Same numbers as Phoenix, same offerings, same times, etc.

The only difference is the bonuses/promotions.

some people say BetPhoenix doesnt pay?? is this true?

**Santo** · 10-15-09, 12:16 AM

Phoenix pay, I got a payout a couple of days ago.

**20Four7** · 10-15-09, 01:52 AM

Phoenix is the rising star right now..... but let's see if it can stay there. If they establish themselves as a top tier book that would be nice. Still haven't played there.

Hedgehog, just because a book is low rated doesn't mean that people haven't had good experiences there. Up until BetRoyal took moneybookers out as a withdrawal method (you can still deposit that way mind you) and raised there fees for a payout I found, opinionated lines, soft lines and made money there. Only my first payout was ever an issue. I had no problems saying I had no issues but realize there track record is to steal money, void wining wagers etc. And while I had no issues that may not be the case with all players.