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  • dxp
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-06-18
    • 463

    #1
    betanysports - again, TREAD LIGHTLY!
    i was complaining awhile back that they would only partially close my account. i didn't want my info saved and to be harrassed down the line. tried to help anyone here by suggesting NOT to sign up if they were just curious about checking out the site. it's not worth it. most people didn't care. to each his own i guess? but anyway, they called me from an 800 number after a few months went by and left a voicemail asking me to come back.

    i decided to give them another shot because customer service was actually pretty cool. worked out a deposit and reward bonus. so, i make my initial deposit and then a handful more during the week. everything is solid until i look at my account (NOT my BAS account) and notice the balance is jacked up. i'm thinking.. what the hell happened here? i go through the transactions and see there is a duplicate charge from my orginal deposit.. which happened to be the highest out of all of them, mid 600 figure.

    i immediately email them and explain. they check into it and come back with the obvious, stating there appears to be a duplicate charge. and they are now working with the processor. even though i'm mad, i assume it was an accident and i mention to them to just update my BAS balance with what they took. rep explains they can't do that. i forget why.. some accounting type nonsense or something? thinking alright, whatever i guess. just give me back my money then.

    after that they email me saying they're giving a CREDIT for the amount taken, because i'm such a "great customer" <- meaning i've lost and haven't made a withdrawal yet. BUT they also say i will be getting the refund as well. so i'm thinking great, they admitted their mistake and they are actually compensating me for it with a free play/bonus type thing. awesome service (and i told them this.) i didn't think much of the credit and just took some fun shots with it.

    so, as the week drags on, i'm starting to get annoyed about how the money was basically stolen from me and i'm not getting any word yet. seems like an important matter, right?! i ask them for an update.. and in a sneaky kind of way they mention they gave me the credit. i laugh to myself and tell them i'm asking about the refund, which they said i would get no matter what. so they tell me they are working on it with the processor, they will get back to me as soon as they have something. i'm thinking how long?!!! you know it's a dupe charge, initiate a return. it's not that complicated.

    to speed things up, settle the situation and avoid any negativity.. i again mention to them that they can just update my BAS balance with the money they took. they again say they can't do that, they gave me the credit already. which is like.. OK?? i didn't ask for the credit, and it's separate from the refund. i'm trying to explain to them that i shouldn't have to be the one who waits on the processor. it's part of their system. they should deal with it and giving me back the money they took should be a priority. they won't budge on it.

    a few more days pass without an update.. and i'm getting more and more mad. i pretty much tell them if they aren't going to add the money to my BAS balance, then close my account because i won't play with them again. no 3rd chance. they keep trying to call me (which i'm not answering because i'm extremely busy and i don't give a damn about having a voice conversation with a BOOK.)it goes back and forth, nothing constructive or interesting. finally i tell them i've asked for my account to be closed like 3 or 4 times, why isn't it being done? and why can't i get a legit update on the refund?

    they finally "suspend" it for me and tell me the same line, they are waiting on the processor. so a few days later, i try one more time to explain in detail about updating my BAS balance. i go over everything and ask them to do the right thing. my email is IGNORED. 3 days pass, i send another email saying i'm still waiting for an update and some answers to the situation. again, IGNORED.

    that was 3 days ago. 6 days since the first ignored email. the dupe charge happened on august 4th. it's now august 21st. still no refund or updates. last two emails, ignored. will i ever see the money? highly, highly doubt it. i know some people might say i got the CREDIT, but that's not what i was told. i was supposed to get BOTH. also, i was charged a fee because of their mistake. so even if you count the credit, it still cost me a few extra bucks. of course, that doesn't include the headache of time wasted going back and forth in emails either.

    what i want to know is, how many times has this happened to a customer who they don't consider "great" and they didn't give a credit to? how many times was money taken and someone didn't notice? shady stuff. i guess i'll update the thread if i ever get the money. even if by some remote chance i do, the wait and aggravation of it all leaves such a sour taste. especially the ignored emails, such a classless act. when you essentially steal money out of someone's account, you damn well better answer no matter how many times they ask you.. even if it's the same "we're still waiting" nonsense.
  • senseionline
    SBR MVP
    • 08-20-10
    • 1819

    #2
    BAS block me after i hit several long shot parlays and compliant about they are not paying true odd on parlays
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Top level book
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      • pimike
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-23-08
        • 37139

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Top level book
        Did you read first post?

        I guess not based upon that reply
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        • DontTailMe
          SBR MVP
          • 03-24-19
          • 2897

          #5
          Originally posted by dxp
          i was complaining awhile back that they would only partially close my account. i didn't want my info saved and to be harrassed down the line. tried to help anyone here by suggesting NOT to sign up if they were just curious about checking out the site. it's not worth it. most people didn't care. to each his own i guess? but anyway, they called me from an 800 number after a few months went by and left a voicemail asking me to come back.

          i decided to give them another shot because customer service was actually pretty cool. worked out a deposit and reward bonus. so, i make my initial deposit and then a handful more during the week. everything is solid until i look at my account (NOT my BAS account) and notice the balance is jacked up. i'm thinking.. what the hell happened here? i go through the transactions and see there is a duplicate charge from my orginal deposit.. which happened to be the highest out of all of them, mid 600 figure.

          i immediately email them and explain. they check into it and come back with the obvious, stating there appears to be a duplicate charge. and they are now working with the processor. even though i'm mad, i assume it was an accident and i mention to them to just update my BAS balance with what they took. rep explains they can't do that. i forget why.. some accounting type nonsense or something? thinking alright, whatever i guess. just give me back my money then.

          after that they email me saying they're giving a CREDIT for the amount taken, because i'm such a "great customer" <- meaning i've lost and haven't made a withdrawal yet. BUT they also say i will be getting the refund as well. so i'm thinking great, they admitted their mistake and they are actually compensating me for it with a free play/bonus type thing. awesome service (and i told them this.) i didn't think much of the credit and just took some fun shots with it.

          so, as the week drags on, i'm starting to get annoyed about how the money was basically stolen from me and i'm not getting any word yet. seems like an important matter, right?! i ask them for an update.. and in a sneaky kind of way they mention they gave me the credit. i laugh to myself and tell them i'm asking about the refund, which they said i would get no matter what. so they tell me they are working on it with the processor, they will get back to me as soon as they have something. i'm thinking how long?!!! you know it's a dupe charge, initiate a return. it's not that complicated.

          to speed things up, settle the situation and avoid any negativity.. i again mention to them that they can just update my BAS balance with the money they took. they again say they can't do that, they gave me the credit already. which is like.. OK?? i didn't ask for the credit, and it's separate from the refund. i'm trying to explain to them that i shouldn't have to be the one who waits on the processor. it's part of their system. they should deal with it and giving me back the money they took should be a priority. they won't budge on it.

          a few more days pass without an update.. and i'm getting more and more mad. i pretty much tell them if they aren't going to add the money to my BAS balance, then close my account because i won't play with them again. no 3rd chance. they keep trying to call me (which i'm not answering because i'm extremely busy and i don't give a damn about having a voice conversation with a BOOK.)it goes back and forth, nothing constructive or interesting. finally i tell them i've asked for my account to be closed like 3 or 4 times, why isn't it being done? and why can't i get a legit update on the refund?

          they finally "suspend" it for me and tell me the same line, they are waiting on the processor. so a few days later, i try one more time to explain in detail about updating my BAS balance. i go over everything and ask them to do the right thing. my email is IGNORED. 3 days pass, i send another email saying i'm still waiting for an update and some answers to the situation. again, IGNORED.

          that was 3 days ago. 6 days since the first ignored email. the dupe charge happened on august 4th. it's now august 21st. still no refund or updates. last two emails, ignored. will i ever see the money? highly, highly doubt it. i know some people might say i got the CREDIT, but that's not what i was told. i was supposed to get BOTH. also, i was charged a fee because of their mistake. so even if you count the credit, it still cost me a few extra bucks. of course, that doesn't include the headache of time wasted going back and forth in emails either.

          what i want to know is, how many times has this happened to a customer who they don't consider "great" and they didn't give a credit to? how many times was money taken and someone didn't notice? shady stuff. i guess i'll update the thread if i ever get the money. even if by some remote chance i do, the wait and aggravation of it all leaves such a sour taste. especially the ignored emails, such a classless act. when you essentially steal money out of someone's account, you damn well better answer no matter how many times they ask you.. even if it's the same "we're still waiting" nonsense.
          I know this process is frustrating for you, but anyone who sees this happen can tell you that it's normal for this type of thing to take a while to resolve. Since US companies won't process card transactions for offshore sportsbooks, they have to use shady Chinese processors. Unfortunately, this type of double charge is all too common (not just BAS but most offshore books who use them). But my guess is that they aren't jerking you around. They just need to go through the proper procedure to get you refunded, and it takes a while. Patience is key in these situations.

          This is one of the many reasons why people only transact with offshore books via Bitcoin. It's impossible for these things to happen.
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          • littlekona
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-19-15
            • 5242

            #6
            FYI they changed race book and now min base wager amount is $1 up from the .05
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            • HedgeHog
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-11-07
              • 10128

              #7
              Originally posted by DontTailMe
              I know this process is frustrating for you, but anyone who sees this happen can tell you that it's normal for this type of thing to take a while to resolve. Since US companies won't process card transactions for offshore sportsbooks, they have to use shady Chinese processors. Unfortunately, this type of double charge is all too common (not just BAS but most offshore books who use them). But my guess is that they aren't jerking you around. They just need to go through the proper procedure to get you refunded, and it takes a while. Patience is key in these situations.



              This is one of the many reasons why people only transact with offshore books via Bitcoin. It's impossible for these things to happen.
              Yeah, BTC is better for deposits than most any other means. However, it is NOT normal for an A Book to do duplicate CC charges and then not make good on it. BAS gets the benefit of their past relationship with 5D, but they don't deserve it. Average Book at best.
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              • pimike
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-23-08
                • 37139

                #8
                Hate there website
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                • unlearn
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-22-14
                  • 9031

                  #9
                  Limits suck and they take forever to grade. C-
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                  • dxp
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-06-18
                    • 463

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DontTailMe
                    I know this process is frustrating for you, but anyone who sees this happen can tell you that it's normal for this type of thing to take a while to resolve. Since US companies won't process card transactions for offshore sportsbooks, they have to use shady Chinese processors. Unfortunately, this type of double charge is all too common (not just BAS but most offshore books who use them). But my guess is that they aren't jerking you around. They just need to go through the proper procedure to get you refunded, and it takes a while. Patience is key in these situations.

                    This is one of the many reasons why people only transact with offshore books via Bitcoin. It's impossible for these things to happen.
                    thanks for the knowledge. i didn't even know dupes were an issue. i've always just kept a separate account i transfer to when i go to make a deposit, then i unlock/lock it real quick so there are never any security concerns. it's just technically "open" for a few seconds while i do my business. i never thought of duplicate transactions though. first time it ever happened to me.

                    the time thing is what kind of pisses me off though. all they had to do was update my BAS balance to like 800, 900, 1000.. whatever they wanted and tell me the issue is taken care of, it's done with. i would have been perfectly fine with the mishap. i specifically told them i do not want to wait an undertermined amount of time for the money that was taken though. well, that and the ignored emails. that's just being aholes.

                    kind of what it comes down to in the end for me atleast. not so much that the money was taken, but how they handled it. i asked repeatedly to just count it as a deposit since it was already taken and for them to deal with the money/time themselves. their book is crappy (98% of my wagers were ultra live) and they called me to come back. one would think they would have taken my simple solution to rectify the situation. go figure.
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                    • DontTailMe
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-24-19
                      • 2897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dxp
                      all they had to do was update my BAS balance to like 800, 900, 1000.. whatever they wanted and tell me the issue is taken care of, it's done with
                      Think of it from their perspective. If they do that for you, then they are out $1,000. They are not the ones who messed this up - the card processor is. They also can't verify that you're telling the truth since they can't see the double charge. So they need the processor - the party holding your 2nd charge funds - to acknowledge the error and reimburse you.
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                      • lonegambler23
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-22-16
                        • 9760

                        #12
                        top notch book, pay lightnibg fast last two times it was within an hour, limits good for me, two live betting platforms (ultras the best) prop builder is back
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                        • bramay21
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 05-19-20
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Call your card company and tell them you never did business with “ABC Box Company from Wuhan, China”, which technically you didnt. They will refund your card. Don’t use a card to deposit any more. Everything is solved
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bramay21
                            Call your card company and tell them you never did business with “ABC Box Company from Wuhan, China”, which technically you didnt. They will refund your card. Don’t use a card to deposit any more. Everything is solved
                            so simple
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                            • lonegambler23
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-22-16
                              • 9760

                              #15
                              even more convenient. stop using cc’s for deposits. that was so 2000. btc or nothing nowadays. fast deposits fast cashouts and books make it way more convenient for you to cash out that way and faster 💡
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                              • Microphone
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-08
                                • 2950

                                #16
                                All due respect 10 paragraphs to get that story across is too lengthy for me.
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                                • Judge Crater
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-05-20
                                  • 2024

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bramay21
                                  Call your card company and tell them you never did business with “ABC Box Company from Wuhan, China”, which technically you didnt. They will refund your card. Don’t use a card to deposit any more. Everything is solved
                                  If you charge back, besides being plain nasty, you will lose credit card privileges at most sportsbooks
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                                  • bramay21
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 05-19-20
                                    • 59

                                    #18
                                    Good. Stop using a card and move to crypto. Plus according to this story, it is not his issue or a nasty charge back. He gave them a chance to remedy it, they have not, f**k'em. He should charge back not only for that one but all of his deposits and go somewhere else and use bitcoins. Mess with the bull, get the horns
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                                    • Microphone
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-08-08
                                      • 2950

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bramay21
                                      Don’t use a card to deposit any more.
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                                      • pimike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-23-08
                                        • 37139

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                        top notch book, pay lightnibg fast last two times it was within an hour, limits good for me, two live betting platforms (ultras the best) prop builder is back
                                        Just got a call with several good promos.

                                        So you are recommending these guys?
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Top shelf
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                                          • pimike
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-23-08
                                            • 37139

                                            #22
                                            If you take a bonus you forfeit the reduced juice options.
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                                            • Legions36
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-17-10
                                              • 3032

                                              #23
                                              What brand owns this company? Anyone reputable?
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #24
                                                my limits hit a new low

                                                5 cents on a wnba game
                                                Basketball WNBA - Phoenix Mercury / New York Liberty



                                                OVER 41 -115 for 2nd Quarter Max Win:0.05
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                                                • bfl1000
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 03-28-11
                                                  • 173

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow. I stopped using plastic offshore years ago when several of my cards I used at 5d had several attempted charges for crazy amounts that didn't go through because I didn't keep that much on them. All of the charges came from Asia.

                                                  100% crypto for me.

                                                  Hopefully BAS will add more crypto options.
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                                                  • dxp
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 10-06-18
                                                    • 463

                                                    #26
                                                    the way i deposit should have nothing to do with how poorly BAS handled (and is currently ignoring) the situation. in 20+ years, this is the FIRST legit problem i've encountered depositing this way. the bottom line is, if you offer something as part of your service, you obviously need to back it up. regardless of the method, if anyone were to make a deposit and the incorrect amount was taken or you weren't credited, you would want it taken care of immediately, CORRECT?! this situation is no different.

                                                    my money was taken august 4th. it's now august 28th and i still don't have it. and my last 2 emails were ignored from the other week. that's on the BOOK, not me. all i did was use a service they clearly provide as a safe option. if and when it fails, the customer needs to be taken care of right away. not weeks later, not ignored and not cheated.
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                                                    • pimike
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-23-08
                                                      • 37139

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                      my limits hit a new low

                                                      5 cents on a wnba game
                                                      Basketball WNBA - Phoenix Mercury / New York Liberty



                                                      OVER 41 -115 for 2nd Quarter Max Win:0.05

                                                      Ouch
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        They have no affiliation with 5 Dimes

                                                        That’s only concern
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                                                        • lonegambler23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-22-16
                                                          • 9760

                                                          #29
                                                          got paid within an hour enough of the bs about bas. solid book.
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                                                          • littlekona
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-19-15
                                                            • 5242

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            They have no affiliation with 5 Dimes

                                                            That’s only concern
                                                            they pay in acceptable time frame BUT the RaceBook is very buggy with many time outs PLUS they upped the MIN horse wager on pick 3 4 5 6's to $1 from the .05. I have ZERO reason to use them now. If they rolled back mins I'd be back but for now BOL is the #1 place to bet horses
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                                                            • DontTailMe
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-24-19
                                                              • 2897

                                                              #31
                                                              No one here has been complaining about their payouts. That's a straw man.
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                                                              • pimike
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 03-23-08
                                                                • 37139

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                                got paid within an hour enough of the bs about bas. solid book.
                                                                Did you take a bonus or keep the reduced juice?
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                                                                • dxp
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 10-06-18
                                                                  • 463

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                                  No one here has been complaining about their payouts. That's a straw man.
                                                                  seriously. i'm on day 26 and counting of waiting for my refund for money that was basically stolen from me. i sent another email on saturday asking for an update or the money to just be placed in my BAS account. and for the 3rd time in a row, the email is being ignored.

                                                                  and he is talking about payouts?
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                                                                  • pimike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 03-23-08
                                                                    • 37139

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by dxp
                                                                    seriously. i'm on day 26 and counting of waiting for my refund for money that was basically stolen from me. i sent another email on saturday asking for an update or the money to just be placed in my BAS account. and for the 3rd time in a row, the email is being ignored.

                                                                    and he is talking about payouts?
                                                                    Completely two different issues
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                                                                    • Barrakuda
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-28-18
                                                                      • 786

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Jesus, that was a long post.

                                                                      Join the party and stop using cards
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