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  • andrea
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-31-08
    • 145

    #1
    Horse Racing.. Help..
    How's the calculation for horse racing??
    Thanks!
  • Reload
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-23-08
    • 12245

    #2
    Can you explain a little more about this, andrea? What do you mean?
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    • topgame85
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-30-08
      • 12325

      #3
      I'm assuming he is talking about payouts? Every bet goes into a pool of money and then the track takes a percentage out generally 25% or so for exotics and 17% or so for w/p/s then they distribute whats left to those holding winning tickets........... example 500 people bet $1 exacts 500 goes into the pool the track takes their cut 25% which is $125 $375 is left in the pool of the 500 $1 exactas 25 win 375/25 payout would be $17 per $1 ticket
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      • Karla
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-31-08
        • 271

        #4
        hmm.. Horse racing. pretty complicated to calculate if you have no idea what the figures are. Bottomline is, your winnings will depend on the net pool.
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        • andrea
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-31-08
          • 145

          #5
          Thanks for replies, anyway what is net pool? Sorry for being unawareness with
          the horse racing thing..
          I would appreciate any answers..
          Thanks!
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          • topgame85
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-30-08
            • 12325

            #6
            Every dollar you bet goes into a pool minus the tracks takeout as I described in my example above
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            • topgame85
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-30-08
              • 12325

              #7
              Most tracks offer "Will pays" for exactas as the money comes in on each bet so you can know beforehand what you will win on a given excacta however trifecta, superfecta, place, show etc are toss ups if you are familiar with it you can often guess your payout but sometimes you will be extremely surprised. My biggest single horsepayout was $3500 fora $1 triple and I only thought it would pay around a grand
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              • thespeculator
                SBR MVP
                • 09-09-08
                • 2999

                #8
                do they take out the tracks cut before or after you cash the ticket. If you win 1000 does the 17% come out of that leaving you with 830 or is that already factored in and 1000 is all yours,
                interesting thread , i have always been interested in horses never got around to playing
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                • istakeu
                  Restricted User
                  • 08-23-09
                  • 4

                  #9
                  if you win $1000, you receive $1000. The "rake" is taken before the prices are posted.
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                  • andrea
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-31-08
                    • 145

                    #10
                    Thank you all..
                    Anyways, I placed my bet on win/pool. Does this mean that half of my stake was placed on WIN and the
                    other half was on pool right?
                    Correct me if I'm wrong....
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                    • GoodOldTed
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-03-09
                      • 135

                      #11
                      It is the win pool - one thing, not two.

                      Win, place and show are all separate pools.

                      Here's some bedtime reading for you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_betting
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                      • Karla
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-31-08
                        • 271

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andrea
                        Thank you all..
                        Anyways, I placed my bet on win/pool. Does this mean that half of my stake was placed on WIN and the
                        other half was on pool right?
                        Correct me if I'm wrong....
                        My dear, do you mean you place bet on win pool? place pool? or win/place?
                        you got me all confused there.
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                        • icemantbi
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-18-07
                          • 944

                          #13
                          You see, this is why horse racing, while I love the sport, is really on it's death bed. Wagers are too tough to understand for the masses, who then get ticked off when they bet a horse at 5-1 and goes off at 2-1 and wonder why they don't get 5-1 payout.

                          Anyways, to answer your question Karla... there are 3 basic pools. WIN, PLACE and SHOW. They are not interconnected, they are seperate pools with seperate amounts of money in them. The payouts are usually higher for WIN because the horse you picked in the WIN pool has to come first, therefore less people for the track to pay. Next is PLACE, where the payouts are less because the horse you picked can come in either first or second, so there is more players for the track to pay. Finally, there is a SHOW pool, which means you win if your horse comes 1st, 2nd or 3rd... now this pays pretty low because there are alot of players the track has to pay.
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                          • topgame85
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-30-08
                            • 12325

                            #14
                            Its well worth learning horse racing it cost me about 40k and months of my life to even "start" to get a clue but it has been a fun ride and I love playing the ponies even though I still lose more than i win most of the time
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                            • GoodOldTed
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-03-09
                              • 135

                              #15
                              Originally posted by icemantbi
                              You see, this is why horse racing, while I love the sport, is really on it's death bed. Wagers are too tough to understand for the masses, who then get ticked off when they bet a horse at 5-1 and goes off at 2-1 and wonder why they don't get 5-1 payout.
                              Would have placed over-racing (quantity not quality), poor stewardship, repeatedly allowing trainers to get a slap on the wrist for drug infractions and petty fighting over broadcast and wagering rights as much bigger problems.

                              The concept of the tote or pari-mutuel pool is quiite simple unless you've got into betting another way - eg poker or sports, which then confuses the issue.
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                              • andrea
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-31-08
                                • 145

                                #16
                                My apologies, it's WIN/PLACE rather..
                                Didn't notice I got it wrong...
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