Originally posted by BAC
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Who cares about a Bookmaker bet since you're obviously a hopeless and clueless gambling addict? Since Biden hasn't won yet though, I'd like to know how much you'd like to bet me that Trump wins?Comment -
"Under 12th Amendment VP Pence has plenary power to reject contested electors and accept Trump electors."Comment -
Originally posted by BAC
Pence will preside over the joint session in Congress on Jan. 6, but federal law stipulates his role is to open and count electoral votes, not weigh in on whether they are valid.Comment -
Can your daddy also beat up his daddy? Where are you pulling this BS from? Maybe the bolded is something you would do, but theres no reason to talk down to someone for how someone would deal with a scenario thats made up in your head.Originally posted by HedgeHog
& so what anyways? The ticket shouldn't have been graded yet per rules. Aren't rules a thing?
You same jackasses fk all of the honest bettors over by taking handouts from books, applauding them when they do 'player friendly' shit and never once care for the rules being applied, and the people that get ****** when they aren't.
I don't know the OP Personally, and don't care. The complaint is valid. Anyone who doesn't see the validity or brings up anything aside from the application of the rule is a jackass troll with no integrity. Period.Comment -
I’ve been waiting for weeks for them to grade my Trump bet
So glad they did it. I was tired of seeing that pending bet.
It also fukks up your rollover if you bust out before meeting the rollover cause that pending bet will force the calculator not to reset.Comment -
Good point Joe.Originally posted by big joe 1212
It doesn't matter anyway, if BAC is correct in his interpretation of their rules, which he reports Bookmaker have confirmed to him, then should anything happen to result in Trump remaining in office, then Trump bettors would be paid.
Earliest possible grading is good for all..Comment -
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No, his powers are largely ceremonial at that stage. It has to be that way given how often a VP is actually a Presidential candidate - eg Al Gore presided over the count that saw him lose in 2000.Originally posted by BAC
Wrt contested electors: it would need a state legislature to pass a law to override the vote, then you'd have two sets of electors. That hasn't happened anywhere yet though, and is highly unlikely. Even if it did happen, it'd never pass through the necessary votes in Congress, and thus the original electors from the governor would stand.Comment -
Yeah, I don't see any problem for Trump bettors in the case of Trump remaining in office. Surely bettors will be paid immediately, won't need to fight Bookmaker for reversals. This wouldn't create an enormous issue. I can't even imagine a scenario where Bookmaker would say 'sorry guys, but the bets were final'. Never seen a problem with a book circling back to do the right thing. 5Dimes paying out customers fairly for their markets was surely done too. No threads exist on Bookmaker being as stubborn as they get and being unwilling to reverse misgrades without pulling teeth.Originally posted by Optional
Seriously, wtf did I just read? Just follow the rules. You're living in some fantasy world where you're okay with putting punters at the mercy of books to do the right thing, and put all of the work and toll on punters who wouldn't need to fight anything if the rules were simply followed. After the way you forgave 5Dimes countlessly for not following their rules because if benefited you (Nascar race wins), and taking a neutral stance on players not getting paid - expecting 5Dimes to 'do the right thing' how can you be so naive here onto thinking its okay and 'good for all' for rules not to be followed and set up a scenario where backers get screwed?Comment -
Hilarious given the context of this threadOriginally posted by RedApplesComment -
Talk about living in a friggin "fantasy world". There is 0 chance Trump remains in office. Really sick of Trump-tards, like BAC and you, refusing to accept reality. The election was over a month ago and was made official by the Electoral College last Monday. I didn't like having to wait until then to get my winning bets graded, but I accept it. So now I should wait until the inauguration even after the results are now official? Fukk no. And BTW, do you think you could make one post w/o mentioning the 5D exit debacle. We get it, you got screwed. Time to stop blaming the rest of us for your 5D ass-rape and move on.Originally posted by RedApplesComment -
You know the result can easily overturn on Jan 6, 2021 right?Originally posted by HedgeHog
The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors. After he reject them, House of Representative will debate it and decide whether to accept the electors college vote or reject them.
If you so confident Trump lose the 2020 election make a bet with me.
I give you $100 in bitcoin if Biden going inside the white house after Jan 31, 2021 .
If Trump remaining the presidency and stayed at the white house after Jan 31, 2021, you give me $1000 in bitcoin .Comment -
Why would I bet with someone who is clearly delusional and can't be trusted to a honor a bet after it loses? So that's a hard pass. It's laughable (and quite sad) that you think that Pence and 50 Republican senators will soil their reputations and contest a legitimate election result. You'd be lucky to find more than a handful to do this extreme act. But let's feed your fantasy and say this occurs (it won't). At this point, the matter would go to a Democratic House that would surely kill it. Thus there is 0 chance of this happening. Keep your $100, you need it more than I do. It may be enough to buy a session with a mental health professional.Originally posted by BACComment -
BAC you are right - the book should have graded after the swearing in ceremony if that's the way they worded it.
Will you win the bet? No chance. If somehow you do, follow vampire assassin's advice and save your breath until then. You are just wasting your time arguing about it now.Comment -
thanks Brian, what is vampire assassin's advice?Comment -
Originally posted by Brian Hast
Spot onComment -
This is all wrong. Pence can't do shit on Jan. 6.
A house member can object, and then a senator needs to object.
I have no doubt that will happen. Both chambers then debate for 2 hours and both need to vote to reject electors. The Democrats have the House, it will never happen.
And the GOP can't have more than 2 senators vote no on their side. Romney is a sure no vote, and Collins and Murkowski are also almost certain. Even McConnell has said they should not contest. I also think Toomey would be a no vote.
Originally posted by BACComment -
Bookmaker has put up this line:
NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ?Boris Johnson (UK)+12000
Justin Trudeau (Canada)+12000
Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)+8000
Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)+6600
Donald Trump (USA)-2781
All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21+1375
If you believe the rest of the bunch will survive one month, then you are getting +1375 on Trump still being president on january 21.Comment -
LOL. This thread was funny to start but has taken a turn to the absurd.Comment -
Since SBR posters cannot exchange funds, I look forward to seeing the outcome of this bet.Comment -
Its a river......Called DA NILE
YepComment -
What happened is the 20 plus stupid off topic dick swinging posts trying to make cash bets have been deleted.Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
And shows part of the reason why cash transactions are banned.
Warnings have been issued. If they are ignored the authors will be gone..Comment -
I'll keep that in mind, tyComment -
Time for the OP to put up or shut up. Post your betslip of how much you took of Trump +1375 at BM.Originally posted by ParetoComment -
There's a deadline in play: states have to send certificates of their electors to the Senate by Wednesday 23rd. So far not one elector has been contested.Originally posted by BAC
It's not a thing that can be done at short notice either, it would need to pass through state legislatures, withstand likely legal challenge, and so on.Comment -
Although I wanted no part of the bet itself, I did play a role in helping the 2 parties iron out any ambiguity in their wager. For that I apologize.Originally posted by OptionalComment -
Jan 6th state delegation in a vote of 27-24 will vote trump as POTUSComment -
That can only happen if Biden doesn't get a majority of electoral college votes.Originally posted by BAC
For that to happen, Democrats in the house would need to vote to strip him of all six swing states - not just below 270, but if you remove votes the barrier drops (half of a lower total). To get below that 50%, it'd need to be NV + AZ + WI + MI + PA + GA .... and actually at that point Trump wins directly, 232-227, so no vote by state delegation happens.
This is fantasy land stuff, of course. This is why Trump is investigating other routes - he asked about using the military the other day, in other words a straight coup.Comment -
Biden made a rare post election appearance yesterday
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My max wager limit is $22 on "All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21" .NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ? Boris Johnson (UK) 67 Justin Trudeau (Canada) 67 Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel) 67 Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela) 67 Donald Trump (USA) 1.04 All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21 10.07
Can someone confirm that their wager limit is more than $100 on bookmaker ?Comment -
the workings of a trump supporter's brain, amazing.Comment -
The irony of someone in broken english being super confident, yet completely wrong, about how the Electoral College works and the President is elected is hilarious.Originally posted by BACComment -
Max wager €16 for me on that selection.Originally posted by BACComment -
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