bookmaker & justbet graded my trump/biden ticket a loss before swearing-in ceremony

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  • hustledouble
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-26-13
    • 189

    #36
    Originally posted by BAC
    you have sources from .gov ?

    because the media doesn't decided who the president is
    Who cares about a Bookmaker bet since you're obviously a hopeless and clueless gambling addict? Since Biden hasn't won yet though, I'd like to know how much you'd like to bet me that Trump wins?
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    • BAC
      SBR High Roller
      • 02-14-12
      • 166

      #37
      "Under 12th Amendment VP Pence has plenary power to reject contested electors and accept Trump electors."
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      • TheGuesser
        SBR MVP
        • 08-10-05
        • 2714

        #38
        Originally posted by BAC
        "Under 12th Amendment VP Pence has plenary power to reject contested electors and accept Trump electors."
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        Pence will preside over the joint session in Congress on Jan. 6, but federal law stipulates his role is to open and count electoral votes, not weigh in on whether they are valid.
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        • RedApples
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-02-18
          • 721

          #39
          Originally posted by HedgeHog
          LOL, if Biden had lost and pulled this same BS, you'd be bitching about your winning ticket not being graded. Stop being a pussy, you lost your Trump bet a month ago.
          Can your daddy also beat up his daddy? Where are you pulling this BS from? Maybe the bolded is something you would do, but theres no reason to talk down to someone for how someone would deal with a scenario thats made up in your head.

          & so what anyways? The ticket shouldn't have been graded yet per rules. Aren't rules a thing?

          You same jackasses fk all of the honest bettors over by taking handouts from books, applauding them when they do 'player friendly' shit and never once care for the rules being applied, and the people that get ****** when they aren't.

          I don't know the OP Personally, and don't care. The complaint is valid. Anyone who doesn't see the validity or brings up anything aside from the application of the rule is a jackass troll with no integrity. Period.
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19380

            #40
            I’ve been waiting for weeks for them to grade my Trump bet

            So glad they did it. I was tired of seeing that pending bet.

            It also fukks up your rollover if you bust out before meeting the rollover cause that pending bet will force the calculator not to reset.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61530

              #41
              Originally posted by big joe 1212
              I’ve been waiting for weeks for them to grade my Trump bet

              So glad they did it. I was tired of seeing that pending bet.

              It also fukks up your rollover if you bust out before meeting the rollover cause that pending bet will force the calculator not to reset.
              Good point Joe.


              It doesn't matter anyway, if BAC is correct in his interpretation of their rules, which he reports Bookmaker have confirmed to him, then should anything happen to result in Trump remaining in office, then Trump bettors would be paid.

              Earliest possible grading is good for all.
              .
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              • RocketMan$$$
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-11-17
                • 214

                #42
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                • HeeeHAWWWW
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-13-08
                  • 5487

                  #43
                  Originally posted by BAC
                  "Under 12th Amendment VP Pence has plenary power to reject contested electors and accept Trump electors."
                  No, his powers are largely ceremonial at that stage. It has to be that way given how often a VP is actually a Presidential candidate - eg Al Gore presided over the count that saw him lose in 2000.

                  Wrt contested electors: it would need a state legislature to pass a law to override the vote, then you'd have two sets of electors. That hasn't happened anywhere yet though, and is highly unlikely. Even if it did happen, it'd never pass through the necessary votes in Congress, and thus the original electors from the governor would stand.
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                  • Barrakuda
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-28-18
                    • 786

                    #44
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                    • RedApples
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-02-18
                      • 721

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Good point Joe.


                      It doesn't matter anyway, if BAC is correct in his interpretation of their rules, which he reports Bookmaker have confirmed to him, then should anything happen to result in Trump remaining in office, then Trump bettors would be paid.

                      Earliest possible grading is good for all.
                      Yeah, I don't see any problem for Trump bettors in the case of Trump remaining in office. Surely bettors will be paid immediately, won't need to fight Bookmaker for reversals. This wouldn't create an enormous issue. I can't even imagine a scenario where Bookmaker would say 'sorry guys, but the bets were final'. Never seen a problem with a book circling back to do the right thing. 5Dimes paying out customers fairly for their markets was surely done too. No threads exist on Bookmaker being as stubborn as they get and being unwilling to reverse misgrades without pulling teeth.

                      Seriously, wtf did I just read? Just follow the rules. You're living in some fantasy world where you're okay with putting punters at the mercy of books to do the right thing, and put all of the work and toll on punters who wouldn't need to fight anything if the rules were simply followed. After the way you forgave 5Dimes countlessly for not following their rules because if benefited you (Nascar race wins), and taking a neutral stance on players not getting paid - expecting 5Dimes to 'do the right thing' how can you be so naive here onto thinking its okay and 'good for all' for rules not to be followed and set up a scenario where backers get screwed?
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                      • hustledouble
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-26-13
                        • 189

                        #46
                        Originally posted by RedApples
                        You're living in some fantasy world
                        Hilarious given the context of this thread
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #47
                          Originally posted by RedApples
                          Yeah, I don't see any problem for Trump bettors in the case of Trump remaining in office.
                          Talk about living in a friggin "fantasy world". There is 0 chance Trump remains in office. Really sick of Trump-tards, like BAC and you, refusing to accept reality. The election was over a month ago and was made official by the Electoral College last Monday. I didn't like having to wait until then to get my winning bets graded, but I accept it. So now I should wait until the inauguration even after the results are now official? Fukk no. And BTW, do you think you could make one post w/o mentioning the 5D exit debacle. We get it, you got screwed. Time to stop blaming the rest of us for your 5D ass-rape and move on.
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                          • BAC
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-14-12
                            • 166

                            #48
                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                            Talk about living in a friggin "fantasy world". There is 0 chance Trump remains in office. Really sick of Trump-tards, like BAC and you, refusing to accept reality. The election was over a month ago and was made official by the Electoral College last Monday. I didn't like having to wait until then to get my winning bets graded, but I accept it. So now I should wait until the inauguration even after the results are now official? Fukk no. And BTW, do you think you could make one post w/o mentioning the 5D exit debacle. We get it, you got screwed. Time to stop blaming the rest of us for your 5D ass-rape and move on.
                            You know the result can easily overturn on Jan 6, 2021 right?

                            The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors. After he reject them, House of Representative will debate it and decide whether to accept the electors college vote or reject them.

                            If you so confident Trump lose the 2020 election make a bet with me.

                            I give you $100 in bitcoin if Biden going inside the white house after Jan 31, 2021 .

                            If Trump remaining the presidency and stayed at the white house after Jan 31, 2021, you give me $1000 in bitcoin .
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                            • HedgeHog
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 10128

                              #49
                              Originally posted by BAC
                              You know the result can easily overturn on Jan 6, 2021 right?

                              The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors. After he reject them, House of Representative will debate it and decide whether to accept the electors college vote or reject them.

                              If you so confident Trump lose the 2020 election make a bet with me.

                              I give you $100 in bitcoin if Biden going inside the white house after Jan 31, 2021 .

                              If Trump remaining the presidency and stayed at the white house after Jan 31, 2021, you give me $1000 in bitcoin .
                              Why would I bet with someone who is clearly delusional and can't be trusted to a honor a bet after it loses? So that's a hard pass. It's laughable (and quite sad) that you think that Pence and 50 Republican senators will soil their reputations and contest a legitimate election result. You'd be lucky to find more than a handful to do this extreme act. But let's feed your fantasy and say this occurs (it won't). At this point, the matter would go to a Democratic House that would surely kill it. Thus there is 0 chance of this happening. Keep your $100, you need it more than I do. It may be enough to buy a session with a mental health professional.
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                              • Brian Hast
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-15-19
                                • 22

                                #50
                                BAC you are right - the book should have graded after the swearing in ceremony if that's the way they worded it.

                                Will you win the bet? No chance. If somehow you do, follow vampire assassin's advice and save your breath until then. You are just wasting your time arguing about it now.
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                                • BAC
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 02-14-12
                                  • 166

                                  #51
                                  thanks Brian, what is vampire assassin's advice?
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                                  • deeppckts
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-19-12
                                    • 830

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Brian Hast
                                    BAC you are right - the book should have graded after the swearing in ceremony if that's the way they worded it.

                                    Will you win the bet? No chance. If somehow you do, follow vampire assassin's advice and save your breath until then. You are just wasting your time arguing about it now.

                                    Spot on
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                                    • Seattle Slew
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-02-06
                                      • 7373

                                      #53
                                      This is all wrong. Pence can't do shit on Jan. 6.

                                      A house member can object, and then a senator needs to object.

                                      I have no doubt that will happen. Both chambers then debate for 2 hours and both need to vote to reject electors. The Democrats have the House, it will never happen.

                                      And the GOP can't have more than 2 senators vote no on their side. Romney is a sure no vote, and Collins and Murkowski are also almost certain. Even McConnell has said they should not contest. I also think Toomey would be a no vote.

                                      Originally posted by BAC
                                      You know the result can easily overturn on Jan 6, 2021 right?

                                      The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors. After he reject them, House of Representative will debate it and decide whether to accept the electors college vote or reject them.

                                      If you so confident Trump lose the 2020 election make a bet with me.

                                      I give you $100 in bitcoin if Biden going inside the white house after Jan 31, 2021 .

                                      If Trump remaining the presidency and stayed at the white house after Jan 31, 2021, you give me $1000 in bitcoin .
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                                      • Pareto
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-10-07
                                        • 1058

                                        #54
                                        Bookmaker has put up this line:

                                        NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ?Boris Johnson (UK)+12000

                                        Justin Trudeau (Canada)+12000

                                        Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)+8000

                                        Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)+6600

                                        Donald Trump (USA)-2781

                                        All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21+1375

                                        If you believe the rest of the bunch will survive one month, then you are getting +1375 on Trump still being president on january 21.
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                                        • Roger T. Bannon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-28-18
                                          • 5139

                                          #55
                                          LOL. This thread was funny to start but has taken a turn to the absurd.
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                                          • Roger T. Bannon
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-28-18
                                            • 5139

                                            #56
                                            Since SBR posters cannot exchange funds, I look forward to seeing the outcome of this bet.
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                                            • winkyyy
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-05-19
                                              • 578

                                              #57
                                              Its a river......Called DA NILE

                                              Yep
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61530

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                Since SBR posters cannot exchange funds, I look forward to seeing the outcome of this bet.
                                                What happened is the 20 plus stupid off topic dick swinging posts trying to make cash bets have been deleted.

                                                And shows part of the reason why cash transactions are banned.

                                                Warnings have been issued. If they are ignored the authors will be gone.
                                                .
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                                                • BAC
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-14-12
                                                  • 166

                                                  #59
                                                  I'll keep that in mind, ty
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                                                  • Barrakuda
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-28-18
                                                    • 786

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Pareto
                                                    Bookmaker has put up this line:

                                                    NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ?Boris Johnson (UK)+12000

                                                    Justin Trudeau (Canada)+12000

                                                    Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)+8000

                                                    Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)+6600

                                                    Donald Trump (USA)-2781

                                                    All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21+1375

                                                    If you believe the rest of the bunch will survive one month, then you are getting +1375 on Trump still being president on january 21.
                                                    Time for the OP to put up or shut up. Post your betslip of how much you took of Trump +1375 at BM.
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                                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-13-08
                                                      • 5487

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by BAC
                                                      The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors.
                                                      There's a deadline in play: states have to send certificates of their electors to the Senate by Wednesday 23rd. So far not one elector has been contested.

                                                      It's not a thing that can be done at short notice either, it would need to pass through state legislatures, withstand likely legal challenge, and so on.
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                                                      • HedgeHog
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-11-07
                                                        • 10128

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        What happened is the 20 plus stupid off topic dick swinging posts trying to make cash bets have been deleted.

                                                        And shows part of the reason why cash transactions are banned.

                                                        Warnings have been issued. If they are ignored the authors will be gone.
                                                        Although I wanted no part of the bet itself, I did play a role in helping the 2 parties iron out any ambiguity in their wager. For that I apologize.
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                                                        • BAC
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 02-14-12
                                                          • 166

                                                          #63
                                                          Jan 6th state delegation in a vote of 27-24 will vote trump as POTUS
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                                                          • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-13-08
                                                            • 5487

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by BAC
                                                            Jan 6th state delegation in a vote of 27-24 will vote trump as POTUS
                                                            That can only happen if Biden doesn't get a majority of electoral college votes.

                                                            For that to happen, Democrats in the house would need to vote to strip him of all six swing states - not just below 270, but if you remove votes the barrier drops (half of a lower total). To get below that 50%, it'd need to be NV + AZ + WI + MI + PA + GA .... and actually at that point Trump wins directly, 232-227, so no vote by state delegation happens.

                                                            This is fantasy land stuff, of course. This is why Trump is investigating other routes - he asked about using the military the other day, in other words a straight coup.
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                                                            • Random Username
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 11-17-20
                                                              • 17

                                                              #65
                                                              Biden made a rare post election appearance yesterday

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                                                              • BAC
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-14-12
                                                                • 166

                                                                #66

                                                                NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ?
                                                                Boris Johnson (UK)
                                                                67
                                                                Justin Trudeau (Canada)
                                                                67
                                                                Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)
                                                                67
                                                                Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)
                                                                67
                                                                Donald Trump (USA)
                                                                1.04
                                                                All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21
                                                                10.07
                                                                My max wager limit is $22 on "All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21" .

                                                                Can someone confirm that their wager limit is more than $100 on bookmaker ?
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                                                                • relaaxx
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-15-06
                                                                  • 3281

                                                                  #67
                                                                  the workings of a trump supporter's brain, amazing.
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                                                                  • HomeRun35
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 05-09-20
                                                                    • 182

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by BAC
                                                                    You know the result can easily overturn on Jan 6, 2021 right?

                                                                    The electoral College voted on December 15 mean nothing, and VP Mike Pence will count the vote on Jan 6 and he can reject contested electors. After he reject them, House of Representative will debate it and decide whether to accept the electors college vote or reject them.
                                                                    The irony of someone in broken english being super confident, yet completely wrong, about how the Electoral College works and the President is elected is hilarious.
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                                                                    • caramba
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 05-03-12
                                                                      • 371

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by BAC

                                                                      NEXT WORLD LEADER TO LEAVE THEIR CURRENT JOB ?
                                                                      Boris Johnson (UK)
                                                                      67
                                                                      Justin Trudeau (Canada)
                                                                      67
                                                                      Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)
                                                                      67
                                                                      Nicolas Maduro (Venezuela)
                                                                      67
                                                                      Donald Trump (USA)
                                                                      1.04
                                                                      All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21
                                                                      10.07
                                                                      My max wager limit is $22 on "All 5 leaders still in their jobs on 21/01/21" .

                                                                      Can someone confirm that their wager limit is more than $100 on bookmaker ?
                                                                      Max wager €16 for me on that selection.
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                                                                      • BAC
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 02-14-12
                                                                        • 166

                                                                        #70
                                                                        ty caramba
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