Just got banned from 5Dimes for betting a "bad line". #1 rated sportsbook huh?!

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  • hubiebrown
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-05-19
    • 30

    #1
    Just got banned from 5Dimes for betting a "bad line". #1 rated sportsbook huh?!
    I joined 5Dimes on the recommendation of this forum. A+ #1 rated book is what you tell me.

    I've bet for years with them. Mostly longshot futures and props. Once in awhile I had a bet rejected for a bad line (Xander Schauffele 66-1 to win a tournament. They said it was supposed to be 25-1, even though in Vegas he was 100-1).

    This morning I woke up, barely opened my eyes, and started betting longshot NFL futures. Browns Superbowl 500-1. Jaguars 650-1. On to the NBA. Blazers, Celtics, all long odds (we know the Lakers/Clippers are pushing everyone else up!)

    I get an email an hour later. ALL my NBA futures are cancelled due to "bad lines". (NFL futures are ok).
    I get another email "YOUR ACCOUNT HAS BEEN PERMANANTELY CLOSED FOR BAD LINE BETTING".

    Several chats with customer service, no progress. Contact SBR (optional) he says to chat with Becky at 5Dimes. Their customer service refuses to let me.

    I have screenshots of everything. All I want is to keep wagering. Does not seem right that their NBA futures board was incorrect one morning and if I bet it I am permanently banned? Didnt even make my coffee yet. That's how fast it happened.

    Someone please help me with this "#1 rated A+" book.

    Hubie
  • ArunSh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-07
    • 6801

    #2
    These NBA futures which were "bad", what were the exact lines you bet? That's rather key in assessing this situation.
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    • hubiebrown
      SBR Rookie
      • 07-05-19
      • 30

      #3
      Arunsh, I have screenshots doesnt seem like i can upload here
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      • ArunSh
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-24-07
        • 6801

        #4
        Well you don't need to upload them, just tell us what they were. I'm not looking for proof lol, just want to assess the situation.
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        • hubiebrown
          SBR Rookie
          • 07-05-19
          • 30

          #5
          NFL - Browns 500-1. Jaguars 650-1. No problem with these!

          NBA - Celtics 500-1, Raptors 500-1. Mavericks 500-1. --> CANCELLED. ACCOUNT CLOSED. LIVE CHAT VERY RUDE AND ACCUSATORY AND UNFORGIVING.

          A+ book? #1 rated? Someone help me get my account re-opened.
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          • BigOrange
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-13-09
            • 6745

            #6
            That's a tough one. 5dimes built a reputation of dealing harshly with shot takers and guys betting bad lines. On the other hand, they frequently offer higher long shot odds than most other shops. So it's hard to tell if they are purposely making a better offer or hanging a bad line.
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            • hubiebrown
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-05-19
              • 30

              #7
              Since their NBA futures board was "wrong" every bet I made today on NBA futures was considered a bad line. So they are saying I made several bad line bets (even though it was just one bad line, the NBA futures). I'm not asking for my bets to be honored, just leave my account open for christ's sake!

              help
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              • BigOrange
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-13-09
                • 6745

                #8
                Originally posted by hubiebrown
                NFL - Browns 500-1. Jaguars 650-1. No problem with these!

                NBA - Celtics 500-1, Raptors 500-1. Mavericks 500-1. --> CANCELLED. ACCOUNT CLOSED. LIVE CHAT VERY RUDE AND ACCUSATORY AND UNFORGIVING.

                A+ book? #1 rated? Someone help me get my account re-opened.
                Celtics, Raptors, and Mavericks at 500-1 are OBVIOUS bad lines. You can't bet lines that are that far off and not expect to get booted.
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                • hubiebrown
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 07-05-19
                  • 30

                  #9
                  YES YES YES! I make bets for good payouts. Half the wagers I make with them could be "cancelled" for a bad line, if you compare them to the Wynn! Lol. It's just not right to treat me this way. I just want to keep wagering. I dont care if you cancel those bets! Close my account for your error! Come on. I've been with them for years and years, always betting futures at long odds. Tony knew that...

                  Originally posted by BigOrange
                  That's a tough one. 5dimes built a reputation of dealing harshly with shot takers and guys betting bad lines. On the other hand, they frequently offer higher long shot odds than most other shops. So it's hard to tell if they are purposely making a better offer or hanging a bad line.
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                  • hubiebrown
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 07-05-19
                    • 30

                    #10
                    BigOrange, so this really is all my fault? For putting $25 on those NBA longshots. Like I should know what the "real" number should be? If so, then I guess I deserve it... seems ridiculous to me though.
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                    • hubiebrown
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 07-05-19
                      • 30

                      #11
                      Can anyone at the "SportsBookReview" help me out? I went to 5dimes because of this forum. This forum taught me to "bet good numbers". I thought I was doing that. I guess I was never taught to "bet good numbers, but only if they arent too good" ?
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-11-11
                        • 29288

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigOrange
                        Celtics, Raptors, and Mavericks at 500-1 are OBVIOUS bad lines. You can't bet lines that are that far off and not expect to get booted.
                        Agreed. He took a shot and got caught. The End.
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                        • ArunSh
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-24-07
                          • 6801

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigOrange
                          Celtics, Raptors, and Mavericks at 500-1 are OBVIOUS bad lines. You can't bet lines that are that far off and not expect to get booted.
                          Yes, this is why I wanted to know what the lines were so I could assess what was going on. Not sure what exact odds should be right now, but Boston + Toronto were both around 30-1 before the season, 500-1 at this stage, when both are at the top of the East essentially, cmon those are obviously bad lines, what did you expect them to do.

                          Banning you for doing it might be a bit extreme, unless of course you have a history of doing this. A stern warning or two not to do it again would usually be what I think they'd do first, but if you used up for your first/second chance already, well might be out of luck.

                          But cmon, did you really think those lines were legitimate? There are only 30 teams in the NBA, and you thought two of them at the top of their conference (one of whom is the defending champion) would be 500-1? Sorry if I have trouble buying that.
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                          • BigOrange
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-13-09
                            • 6745

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hubiebrown
                            BigOrange, so this really is all my fault? For putting $25 on those NBA longshots. Like I should know what the "real" number should be? If so, then I guess I deserve it... seems ridiculous to me though.
                            Yes Boston is around 25-1 and Toronto is around 33-1. By taking these at 500-1 you are either going to get free rolled or shown the door. You had ZERO chance of getting paid on these.
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                            • hubiebrown
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 07-05-19
                              • 30

                              #15
                              Toronto was 100-1 before the season. They were 80-1 a few days ago. I guess 500-1 is not 80-1, but really? I was taught to bet good numbers. If I asked myself if it was a "bad line" everytime I saw a wager I liked, I'd probably never bet. Corrupted system we have here..
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                              • hubiebrown
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 07-05-19
                                • 30

                                #16
                                Browns 80-1 in vegas. Jacksonville 75-1. Got them on 5dimes at 500-1 and 350-1. When is a bad line a bad line? when is it a good bet? This is RIDICULOUSLY subjective and unfair to the bettor
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                                • hubiebrown
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 07-05-19
                                  • 30

                                  #17
                                  You guys are being really hard on me. I'm going to screenshot the 500-1 I got on Browns at 5dimes and the 80-1 I see in vegas. Should I be banned for LIFE b/c i Bet it at 5dimes?
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                                  • KS1986
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-20-17
                                    • 558

                                    #18
                                    Just move on and be happy you got caught at 5dimes. At least you'll get your money back, a lesser book probably just keeps your money and sends you packing.
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                                    • hubiebrown
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 07-05-19
                                      • 30

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KS1986
                                      Just move on and be happy you got caught at 5dimes. At least you'll get your money back, a lesser book probably just keeps your money and sends you packing.
                                      Looks like that's what I'll be doing. Thanks for all the responses, guys.
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                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 19734

                                        #20
                                        How much did you bet on those lines? And did you ever get a warning?
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                                        • jtoler
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-17-13
                                          • 30967

                                          #21
                                          got limited there years ago said I took bad live line even though I used to point bad lines out to them all the time, took the cake for me
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                                          • PD77
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-11-09
                                            • 2380

                                            #22
                                            Did 5dimes say why all of these bad lines were posted? It’s partially their fault as well. As someone else state, a lesser book would’ve freerolled you and if you hit you would not have been paid.
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                                            • DontTailMe
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-24-19
                                              • 2897

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PD77
                                              Did 5dimes say why all of these bad lines were posted? It’s partially their fault as well. As someone else state, a lesser book would’ve freerolled you and if you hit you would not have been paid.
                                              No, it's 100% their fault. I think it's hilarious that 5Dimes places the responsibility of managing their own lines on others. Every other offshore book I play at just cancels the bet (not to mention legit US books which actually honor every ticket, no matter the odds). But 5Dimes likes to play tough guy.
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                                              • SnakesPicks
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-05-13
                                                • 685

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by hubiebrown
                                                NFL - Browns 500-1. Jaguars 650-1. No problem with these!

                                                NBA - Celtics 500-1, Raptors 500-1. Mavericks 500-1. --> CANCELLED. ACCOUNT CLOSED. LIVE CHAT VERY RUDE AND ACCUSATORY AND UNFORGIVING.

                                                A+ book? #1 rated? Someone help me get my account re-opened.
                                                Celts and Raptors 500-1 each? Wow!
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                                                • themike78
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-01-13
                                                  • 4873

                                                  #25
                                                  You are better off reporting a bad line to the book than trying to bet it. Sometimes they will give you a freeplay. This guy should be banned for life not just from 5 dimes but any offshore book as well.
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                                                  • semibluff
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-12-16
                                                    • 1515

                                                    #26
                                                    Books don't need a legitimate reason to bounce someone. It's their prerogative to NOT do business with someone without a legitimate reason. However, in this case they do have a legitimate reason.
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                                                    • gauchojake
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 09-17-10
                                                      • 34113

                                                      #27
                                                      How come this always happens at 5Dimes?

                                                      They hang more bad lines than any book out there.
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                                                      • captrobey
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-02-10
                                                        • 34356

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                                        No, it's 100% their fault. I think it's hilarious that 5Dimes places the responsibility of managing their own lines on others. Every other offshore book I play at just cancels the bet (not to mention legit US books which actually honor every ticket, no matter the odds). But 5Dimes likes to play tough guy.
                                                        I don't think it is 100% their fault i think more blame should be on themselves for putting it there. How are you supposed to know if a line is bad or not anyway.

                                                        I saw a line earlier today that originally was at O/U 71 . I checked later and it was at 72. When i checked again it was at 17 . I figured it was supposed to be 71. I did not touch it knowing it was an obvious error. But what if it was 61 . Would they still say that is a bad line? Someone that does not check numbers may just assume that is right. Or what if you see it at 72 go off to check numbers and try and come back before the game starts and you are rushed and just click it not realizing it changed to 17 . I can see that happening if you are rushing right before a game starts . Are they going to ban you for an honest mistake that even worse was what they created?
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                                                        • baseballstud
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-31-08
                                                          • 980

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by hubiebrown
                                                          BigOrange, so this really is all my fault? For putting $25 on those NBA longshots. Like I should know what the "real" number should be? If so, then I guess I deserve it... seems ridiculous to me though.
                                                          I know the $25 bet seems insignificant, to any book $25 bet means nothing. What is significant is the 500*25= $12,500 payout that is significant.
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                                                          • TommieGunshot
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-27-12
                                                            • 1604

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                            How come this always happens at 5Dimes?

                                                            They hang more bad lines than any book out there.
                                                            Because 5dimes knows they can put up bad lines everyday and they will still be rated A+ by the people who they pay off. It's much cheaper than actually honoring the bets they take
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                                                            • captrobey
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 34356

                                                              #31
                                                              Makes you wonder what if he had a balance in there would they have taken that?
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                                                              • DontTailMe
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-24-19
                                                                • 2897

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                                How come this always happens at 5Dimes?

                                                                They hang more bad lines than any book out there.
                                                                I wouldn't say they have more bad lines than anywhere else. They just have a much more barbaric response to people who bet them, so you actually hear about it. Other places just cancel the bets, so there's not much to report on a forum like this.
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                                                                • ans61201
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-11-15
                                                                  • 3661

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by hubiebrown
                                                                  Toronto was 100-1 before the season. They were 80-1 a few days ago. I guess 500-1 is not 80-1, but really? I was taught to bet good numbers. If I asked myself if it was a "bad line" everytime I saw a wager I liked, I'd probably never bet. Corrupted system we have here..
                                                                  The bad line bs is another reason these will slowly get shown the door as legalization continues to spread. Too many risks for the customers when there are other options.
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                                                                  • moojoo
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 09-02-16
                                                                    • 938

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by hubiebrown
                                                                    You guys are being really hard on me. I'm going to screenshot the 500-1 I got on Browns at 5dimes and the 80-1 I see in vegas. Should I be banned for LIFE b/c i Bet it at 5dimes?
                                                                    YEs you should be banned. You are shot taker.
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                                                                    • Mild Mannered
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 07-24-19
                                                                      • 38

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                      Agreed. He took a shot and got caught. The End.
                                                                      Absof*ckinglutely not.

                                                                      Sportsbooks have exactly one thing they have to do. Put up prices on wagers. If they can't even get that right, they've got no business blaming the customer.

                                                                      Customer is always right. End of the end of story.
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