Fairlay

[littlekona]

this

It could be improved sure and they have made improvements and ask input too...but it’s seriously not that bad after the learning curve...I had horrible experience myself first month on there navigation of site but now it’s a breeze easy peasy.....I will also say that Fairlay reality is they don’t go after the more recreational type player....most players there are serious USA or pinny restricted countries guys looking best price instant payouts and not being limited if they ARB and use API....guys that love say bodog for site ease, reload bonus and -110 odds are not Going to like Fairlay

[Barrakuda]

It could be improved sure and they have made improvements and ask input too...but it’s seriously not that bad after the learning curve...I had horrible experience myself first month on there navigation of site but now it’s a breeze easy peasy.....I will also say that Fairlay reality is they don’t go after the more recreational type player....most players there are serious USA or pinny restricted countries guys looking best price instant payouts and not being limited if they ARB and use API....guys that love say bodog for site ease, reload bonus and -110 odds are not Going to like Fairlay

Easy peasy?

It's the single worst UI on the Internet as far as I can tell. You don't make the user sift through a hundred props and alt lines to find the primary point spread. The fact that the owner doesn't get this after five years means he never will.

[littlekona]

Easy peasy?

It's the single worst UI on the Internet as far as I can tell. You don't make the user sift through a hundred props and alt lines to find the primary point spread. The fact that the owner doesn't get this after five years means he never will.

Here is example over under normally has most markets so choose this..enters cubs in search took me few clicks on sub cat and in few seconds get this....if you can’t scroll down and quickly find game over unders not sure anyone can help

https://fairlay.com/markets/c/mlb/?q=Cubs&period=1&type=1

[euronet]

For soccer and esports they are copying pinnacle odds. Almost 100% same odds, probably have some special deal with pinnacle.

[Barrakuda]

Here is example over under normally has most markets so choose this..enters cubs in search took me few clicks on sub cat and in few seconds get this....if you can’t scroll down and quickly find game over unders not sure anyone can help

https://fairlay.com/markets/c/mlb/?q...eriod=1&type=1

Right. Literally 50-100 lines show up (incl. all props) in no order whatsoever. Only an idiot would design a web site like this.

[Barrakuda]

Is Fairlay linked to BetFair or Matchbook's odds in some way?

No, they clone Pinny and if your action is regarded as sharp, it will move Pinny's lines instantaneously. You can draw your own conclusions from that.

[raiders72001]

Right. Literally 50-100 lines show up (incl. all props) in no order whatsoever. Only an idiot would design a web site like this.

Has to be fun on Saturdays when both NCAAF and NCAAB are going.

[littlekona]

It’s only on the over under that most props are listed....that said if you can’t figure out how to scroll down while looking for your over under on game say 11 in under 10 seconds not sure anything can help....btw go find all these props on nitrogen....there are none tonight like most nites

https://fairlay.com/markets/c/mlb/?q=Cubs&period=1&type=1

[TheMoneyShot]

Has to be fun on Saturdays when both NCAAF and NCAAB are going.

Yep... you're literally typing in 10 different team names... (using search). Honestly... didn't see any significant savings regarding lines. Was getting better ML's at 5D Reduced Juice... and Heritage

[littlekona]

https://fairlay.com/markets/c/mlb/?q=cubs&type=1

just hit this for a few both on pinny and fairlay same price both sites took 15 seconds to find on each site....easy peasy
https://fairlay.com/archive/chicago-cubs-vs-philadelphia-phillies-210/?referral=201b411c-7337-47c9-b538-3b8c1c32fc44

[Frank]

Yeah looking for O/U is the hardest.

If they could just add a filter of player props and a filter of total runs, it would be so much easier.

I am getting the hang of it though.

[littlekona]

Yeah looking for O/U is the hardest.

If they could just add a filter of player props and a filter of total runs, it would be so much easier.

I am getting the hang of it though.

I sent support request regarding as it would help

They said tyvm Will forward to development team...They are good a requests to implement of site

[Frank]

I sent support request regarding as it would help

They said tyvm Will forward to development team...They are good a requests to implement of site

Cool.

Thanks.

[cornmeal]

Been playing at Fairlay the last month-
Website is a mess,probably scares many players away and times slow grading certain wagers.
Like other posters stated it gets easier the more times you use the site,search option helps.

The lines are the best,payouts are instant(literally).
Its a great out guys

[Frank]

Most times the search button along with the filters will help.

An example of when it doesn't help is when there is an Over/under and a major game with tons of player props.

If what you are looking for is not listed on page 1, you are screwed, because once you click to page 2, all the filters go away.

It is such a pain in the ass to have to scroll through pages of bubble pictures of player props looking for just the main freaking line.

How can they be so lazy?

Making a few changes to the website would make their site so much better and attract so much more business.

[littlekona]

Most times the search button along with the filters will help.

An example of when it doesn't help is when there is an Over/under and a major game with tons of player props.

If what you are looking for is not listed on page 1, you are screwed, because once you click to page 2, all the filters go away.

It is such a pain in the ass to have to scroll through pages of bubble pictures of player props looking for just the main freaking line.

How can they be so lazy?

Making a few changes to the website would make their site so much better and attract so much more business.

Not lazy they are super tech geeks who when developing did not realize the sports side of the prediction site they create would be the main use....totally not sports guys but they are learning and improving and always open to suggestions which I did forward to support...

[Mr. Peepers]

Is commission similar to juice? What determines the % of commission and if it will go up or down? I hear people s

[littlekona]

Is commission similar to juice? What determines the % of commission and if it will go up or down? I hear people s

Base commission is lowest Of all exchanges by wide margin it’s 0.25 % to start but can go Lowe as I’m at vip 5 0.0469% PER

[Barrakuda]

Not lazy they are super tech geeks who when developing did not realize the sports side of the prediction site they create would be the main use....totally not sports guys but they are learning and improving and always open to suggestions which I did forward to support...

No. Lazy. People have been asking for easier ways to find primary lines for years now. You think they're suddenly going to wise up after the 200th request?

[EVPlus]

Most times the search button along with the filters will help.

An example of when it doesn't help is when there is an Over/under and a major game with tons of player props.

If what you are looking for is not listed on page 1, you are screwed, because once you click to page 2, all the filters go away.

It is such a pain in the ass to have to scroll through pages of bubble pictures of player props looking for just the main freaking line.

How can they be so lazy?

Making a few changes to the website would make their site so much better and attract so much more business.

I don't think it's too much to ask for the main O/U lines to be posted at the top of the 1st page. Then have the various props follow. This would be a more intuitive format, imo.

I've been working on a model for team totals. If anyone else plays team totals, this might help:

Go to search function

Type, not case sensitive, the team city team name total away

For example, let's say I like the red sox team total today at over 3.5 for the full game.

I'll type in the following: boston red sox total away

What you'll see are two options. The box on the left is for the 1st Half; box on the right is for full game.

This only seems to work for the visiting team. If you look up the home team, it lists all those props. However, the consolation is that the team total is still at the upper left corner of the first page; so it's not terribly difficult to find.

If unsure, you click the FULL TIME or FIRST HALF link above. Or you can simply click on each individual box and choose the Exchange View for detailed info.

It defaults to ON over.

Obviously, if you like the under, click AGAINST.

At the time of this post, Fairlay does have a good line for the Over:

Fairlay -102

Heritage -115

Bookmaker -109

Because limits are smaller on team totals, I need multiple outs.

I've tried similar tactics on the game total and haven't found anything as efficient. Like I said, they really should have the main O/U default to the top of the first page.

[EVPlus]

One more thing...the search functions doesn't do well with Los Angeles Angels. You'll see listings for the Galaxy and the Sparks.

[littlekona]

One more thing...the search functions doesn't do well with Los Angeles Angels. You'll see listings for the Galaxy and the Sparks.

excellent job explaining that....if you do type in Angels then click the MLB sub tab that helps narrow down more too....

[raiders72001]

Easy peasy?

It's the single worst UI on the Internet as far as I can tell. You don't make the user sift through a hundred props and alt lines to find the primary point spread. The fact that the owner doesn't get this after five years means he never will.

All books should do this:

[TheMoneyShot]

Is commission similar to juice? What determines the % of commission and if it will go up or down? I hear people s

Best way to explain it....

Let's say you wagered on a game at +110

After commissions etc.... You're probably at +109.7

That's all they really take out.

[littlekona]

Best way to explain it....

Let's say you wagered on a game at +110

After commissions etc.... You're probably at +109.7

That's all they really take out.

Nice explanation money.....now it may go down with volume even more as everyone starts at .25 % (betfair is 3%)but like many guys here I am vip 5 so I’m at .0469% I’m on Fairlay everyday along with AC88 too those are my go to sites.....

[eaglesfan371]

Best way to explain it....

Let's say you wagered on a game at +110

After commissions etc.... You're probably at +109.7

That's all they really take out.

This. There’s also a guy who has a bot that offers an extra 0.3 cents on pinnacle odds for main bets up to a few hundred $. So pretty much you get pinnacle odds after commission too.

[eaglesfan371]

Does Fairlay offer the ability to bet in other currencies besides bitcoin? I see you can deposit other currencies but when I go to settings and change "currency" to ETH or bitcoin cash, the odds/confirm betting box still reads "mbtc" in payout and other areas. My balance still shows as mbtc too. I am making a deposit tomorrow and was hoping to consider betting with another, faster, currency after significant delays and high costs with btc lately.

[littlekona]

[QUOTE=eaglesfan371;28664315]Does Fairlay offer the ability to bet in other currencies besides bitcoin? I see you can deposit other currencies but when I go to settings and change "currency" to ETH or bitcoin cash, the odds/confirm betting box still reads "mbtc" in payout and other areas. My balance still shows as mbtc too. I am making a deposit tomorrow and was hoping to consider betting with another, faster, currency after significant delays and high costs with btc lately.[/QUOT

I have never but have used exchange feature to trade bch to btc a few times....ask support

[cornmeal]

All books should do this:

Raiders how is betcoin?

[eaglesfan371]

Raiders how is betcoin?

Not good odds on most markets but years back they manually paid bitcoin withdrawals. When bitcoin was $1000 each they paid my 1.5 bitcoin payout 3 times by accident...guessing that person was fired.

[raiders72001]

Raiders how is betcoin?

Fast payouts, most live betting markets, a top book.

[raiders72001]

Not good odds on most markets but years back they manually paid bitcoin withdrawals. When bitcoin was $1000 each they paid my 1.5 bitcoin payout 3 times by accident...guessing that person was fired.

They changed odds providers a couple of times and have tightened up margins. Graduated -106 sides and totals NBA.

[eaglesfan371]

They changed odds providers a couple of times and have tightened up margins. Graduated -106 sides and totals NBA.

While that is good, Fairlay offers -105/-105, sometimes even -104/-104 or better due to exchange offerings. Unless they are using an odds provider different than Pinnacle + penny or two, they will never have better odds. Just like Nitrogen, they will never have better odds than Fairlay on any market as they simply take Pinnacle + 2-5 cents each side.

I feel like more and more books are simply just using Pinnacle odds as their base and adding additional margin. Especially in bitcoin world.

[raiders72001]

While that is good, Fairlay offers -105/-105, sometimes even -104/-104 or better due to exchange offerings. Unless they are using an odds provider different than Pinnacle + penny or two, they will never have better odds. Just like Nitrogen, they will never have better odds than Fairlay on any market as they simply take Pinnacle + 2-5 cents each side.

I feel like more and more books are simply just using Pinnacle odds as their base and adding additional margin. Especially in bitcoin world.

It does seem as though more and more are cloning Pinny. I'm not sure who the odds provider is for Betcoin but you'll find a better side at Betcoin many times. They are worth looking into especially if you bet live.

[bookie]

SBR rates Betcoin C+.