All BetDSI Problems

[Optional]

From what I can tell, DSI isn't offering all these lower level leagues (at least in my account). Attached is what appears to be my only choices. At a 4% neg EV, I suspect the bankroll will be chewed up by the time the rollover is complete. My sample size will be so dang large that I will definitely progress towards the expected value.

I guess you are right. 30k of bets with 5% loss wont leave you with much.

But I would not take the AI analysis as gospel numbers. Just posted it to help give an idea why draws are a better target for this sort of rollover than other markets. I 'think' you will find it does better than that in real life.

Plus I don't really have any other good idea

[tklemans]

From what I can tell, DSI isn't offering all these lower level leagues (at least in my account). Attached is what appears to be my only choices. At a 4% neg EV, I suspect the bankroll will be chewed up by the time the rollover is complete. My sample size will be so dang large that I will definitely progress towards the expected value.

[Optional]

You might be able to improve the loss % by only betting draws up to odds of +240 (or a figure you choose)

You can probably even turn the loss rate into a win rate if you want to get serious about it. (and if DSI allow you to keep doing it long enough without limiting you further)

But if we are talking about $2000 starting roll, it should only be $100 odd difference in outcome whatever you do to select the best matches... so maybe just go hard and get it done as fast as possible?

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Here's a breakdown of the soccer leagues with the highest percentage of drawn matches, based on recent full-time draw statistics: Top Leagues by Draw Percentage

1	Singapore S-League	66.67%
2	Saudi Arabia Division 1	66.67%
3	Scotland Premiership	54.55%
4	Bahrain Premier League	50.00%
5	Scotland Championship	45.45%
6	Italy Serie B	45.00%
7	Albania Super Liga	44.44%
8	Iran Azadegan League	44.44%
9	Egypt Premier League	44.00%
10	France Ligue 2	42.86%

These leagues consistently produce a high number of draws, making them potentially more favorable for draw betting strategies. Lower-scoring leagues or those with evenly matched teams tend to have more stalemates.



⚽ Average Draw Odds by League

Singapore S-League	3.20 – 3.50	High draw rate, but low liquidity can affect odds.
Saudi Arabia Division 1	3.30 – 3.60	Often undervalued due to less global attention.
Scotland Premiership	3.10 – 3.40	Competitive matches, especially mid-table clashes.
Bahrain Premier League	3.40 – 3.70	Smaller market, odds vary widely by bookmaker.
Scotland Championship	3.20 – 3.50	Known for tight contests and unpredictable outcomes.
Italy Serie B	3.00 – 3.30	Defensive style contributes to frequent draws.
Albania Super Liga	3.30 – 3.60	Limited data, but draw odds tend to be generous.
Iran Azadegan League	3.40 – 3.70	High draw rate, but odds fluctuate due to volatility.
Egypt Premier League	3.10 – 3.40	Balanced league with frequent stalemates.
France Ligue 2	3.00 – 3.30	One of the most consistent leagues for draw betting.

Strategic Takeaway

• Higher draw rates don’t always mean better odds—bookmakers adjust for trends.
• France Ligue 2 and Italy Serie B are popular among draw bettors for their consistency and relatively stable odds.
• Smaller leagues like Bahrain or Iran may offer higher odds but come with more volatility and less reliable data.

If you’re thinking about building a draw-betting model or want to simulate returns based on these odds, I can help you crunch the numbers or even identify specific teams with high draw tendencies. Just say the word.





yes please do that for me


You got it, Opti. Let’s build a simple simulation to estimate how profitable a draw-betting strategy could be if you focused on teams with the highest draw rates. I’ll use real data fromFootyStats to guide this.

[Optional]

I asked Copilot AI how it would have worke out if we bet every draw Bet365 offered over the last 12 months to see if we can get an approx loss % to aim for.

[Optional]

Appreciate the feedback. I was trying to continue betting MLB alts at +EV, but at $10/play, I can only get in $50/day in action....clearly it would take a year to clear. Ugh. I almost consider this a complete loss, so I'm willing to give the 'draw' angle a chance. Hoping you are right re: limited -EV exposure on this.

I hope so too.

Dont know anyone who has tried this in the last couple of years but doubt it has changed.

Look forward to hearing how you go with it.

[tklemans]

Yeah I know. But it just sounds harder than it is.

There are a lot of soccer games each day. Only a 5min job to blind bet every draw. 30k rollover at $10/game will be cleared in a month or so.

Soccer draws are rarely shaded odds. They manipulate the two sides to adjust markets much more. So you end up not losing/winning much most of the time doing this.

Plus these sheisters want you to give up and hand them your money. You don't need to let them win their scam.

After 15+ years exposure to BetDSI's operating tactics I can assure you there is no other option to beat this. They wont be convinced or care about anything you say as the 50,000th person to blow up at them for this same theft tactic.

Appreciate the feedback. I was trying to continue betting MLB alts at +EV, but at $10/play, I can only get in $50/day in action....clearly it would take a year to clear. Ugh. I almost consider this a complete loss, so I'm willing to give the 'draw' angle a chance. Hoping you are right re: limited -EV exposure on this.

[Optional]

On a 1780 deposit x17 rollover??

Seem's insane... I could not do that; but I guess push comes to shove i would consider it?

Yeah I know. But it just sounds harder than it is.

There are a lot of soccer games each day. Only a 5min job to blind bet every draw. 30k rollover at $10/game will be cleared in a month or so.

Soccer draws are rarely shaded odds. They manipulate the two sides to adjust markets much more. So you end up not losing/winning much most of the time doing this.

Plus these sheisters want you to give up and hand them your money. You don't need to let them win their scam.

After 15+ years exposure to BetDSI's operating tactics I can assure you there is no other option to beat this. They wont be convinced or care about anything you say as the 50,000th person to blow up at them for this same theft tactic.

[tennelson55]

You wont get anywhere arguing with these guys. They are awful and probably like it when you complain.

My suggestion is just bet Draw on every soccer match they offer until you have net the rollover. You should complete it with a profit from here.

Betdsi seem to love making people frustrated. Don't give them their sadist pleasure. Just beat their restriction and move on.

On a 1780 deposit x17 rollover??

Seem's insane... I could not do that; but I guess push comes to shove i would consider it?

[Optional]

On 9/2/25, I deposited $1830 via USDC, and received a $500 bonus as a welcome.

Since that time, I've played a bunch of MLB alt spreads and totals. Anywhere from $50 to $150 per play. From 9/2 - 9/5, I lost $630 in my "cash" account and won $332.50 in my "bonus" account. Total action was maybe $2300 or so.

Admittedly, all the alt lines I've been playing are sharp, and probably have a 10-15% ROI edge against FD or Pinny lines. The BetDSI lines are sometimes as much as +100 over and above FD. Example - Dodgers -3.5 +400 on DSI, Dodgers -3.5 +300 on FD.

I logged in today (9/7/25), and played a couple MLB alts. As I was placing my 4th or 5th bet, I was limited to $0 on these alts. I then tried to play $300 on an NFL side just to test. I was limited to $10 on NFL sides.

I then chatting with customer service, who insta-replied that I've been limited completely, and the decision by management was not up for negotiation and not reversible. I could only cash out when "I've met the bonus rollover requirement". He then hung up on me. Clearly, at $10/play, trying to clear a 17x rollover would require 3,300 bets and is not reasonable.

So, any thoughts or recourse here? I'm assuming my remaining $1,200 or so is toast. Bottom line, the book is super shady and I've learned my lesson. Unless I'm dealing with Bookmaker or BetOnline, offshores just can't be trusted.

You wont get anywhere arguing with these guys. They are awful and probably like it when you complain.

My suggestion is just bet Draw on every soccer match they offer until you have net the rollover. You should complete it with a profit from here.

Betdsi seem to love making people frustrated. Don't give them their sadist pleasure. Just beat their restriction and move on.

[acltear]

I would keep hounding them about giving you a reasonable limit to at least complete the rollover. Not sure that it was DSI, but I do know that some books have been persuaded to at least raise limits to $100 so that people can meet a rollover. Just try again and again.

[tklemans]

On 9/2/25, I deposited $1830 via USDC, and received a $500 bonus as a welcome.

Since that time, I've played a bunch of MLB alt spreads and totals. Anywhere from $50 to $150 per play. From 9/2 - 9/5, I lost $630 in my "cash" account and won $332.50 in my "bonus" account. Total action was maybe $2300 or so.

Admittedly, all the alt lines I've been playing are sharp, and probably have a 10-15% ROI edge against FD or Pinny lines. The BetDSI lines are sometimes as much as +100 over and above FD. Example - Dodgers -3.5 +400 on DSI, Dodgers -3.5 +300 on FD.

I logged in today (9/7/25), and played a couple MLB alts. As I was placing my 4th or 5th bet, I was limited to $0 on these alts. I then tried to play $300 on an NFL side just to test. I was limited to $10 on NFL sides.

I then chatting with customer service, who insta-replied that I've been limited completely, and the decision by management was not up for negotiation and not reversible. I could only cash out when "I've met the bonus rollover requirement". He then hung up on me. Clearly, at $10/play, trying to clear a 17x rollover would require 3,300 bets and is not reasonable.

So, any thoughts or recourse here? I'm assuming my remaining $1,200 or so is toast. Bottom line, the book is super shady and I've learned my lesson. Unless I'm dealing with Bookmaker or BetOnline, offshores just can't be trusted.

[BearBuckMtn]

Similar experience: just about all of my withdrawals (5k each until the last 2) took around 24-29 days but I was paid in full from BetDSI.

[GoochKing]

I've now had several cash outs of $5k a few weeks in a row. Business seems to be back to normal.

[GoochKing]

Took some time, but they did pay my buddy the full $10k on 07/23. So they do seem to still be paying, just slow.

[SportsBettor5]

Is offshore done? Sending $$ to rando people in hopes of getting paid?

BOL is the best book in the world, onshore included. BM pays out in minutes every time. 2nd-tier books been dropping like flies recently, though.

[Helno]

They are going out of business. They were offline recently and they are not paying out.

[0nestepaway718]

Requested $4300 payout and was paid $1,000 3 weeks later was told by the agent they are only paying in increments of a $1,000 per request

[statguy]

Is offshore done? Sending $$ to rando people in hopes of getting paid?

[CameronP]

My 5k payout was also canceled, and received 1k. Was told the same about paying 1k until everyone is settled

[gym rat]

My withdrawal request was made on June 16 for $2000 . I received the full payment on July 7th. They did take 3 weeks to pay but made the full payment and never mentioned anything about payments during several live chat inquiries before I received payment.

[GoochKing]

Was that from a manager? or just a CS agent?

Anyone else able to confirm if this is true for everyone or if they are just saying it to this person?

Just CS agent, but they cancelled a $5k request. Sent $1k and thats what was told. Have had another $1k request pending.

[gym rat]

Received DSI Bitcoin Payment today $2000 .

[SportsBettor5]

Feels like yesterday that these guys had their ads blasting on every sports podcast. They had an affiliation with BM/CRIS. Flash forward to 2025 and it appears they are out of money, just like Jazz.

[Playboyy09]

This is their new one, only sportsbook I have ever that pays in payments ! Jerkoff, jerkoff, JERKOFFS! I know they are offshore but how does some
commisoon not shut these scumbags down ? I cashed out may 1 $5000, may 22 they paid it . Then made the second cash out for another 5000 and they paid me 100 a month later saying they are basically BROKE deadbeat lowlifes ! I hope they all starve !

[nbaguy23]

Was that from a manager? or just a CS agent?

Anyone else able to confirm if this is true for everyone or if they are just saying it to this person?

They haven't paid me in over a month for an account they closed as "non recreational". Claim I need to talk to the ifraud team email who doesn't respond to anything

[Optional]

They just said they're paying $1k at a time until all clients are current. This is going to take forever.

Was that from a manager? or just a CS agent?

Anyone else able to confirm if this is true for everyone or if they are just saying it to this person?

[GoochKing]

They just said they're paying $1k at a time until all clients are current. This is going to take forever.

[GoochKing]

Still waiting, been waiting over a month for a payment. Avoid this book for now. I've used them for YEARS problem free, but now they aren't paying.

[gym rat]

Has anyone received a payout from BetDSI lately? I still have not been paid and they can not give an ETA at this time.

[Optional]

Which apps do you use ? As far as I understand, all sportsbook apps are not legal in California. Although I heard BetOpenly is available since it is peer to peer.

Do you get limited on your apps if you win? I heard Draftkings and FanDuel will lower limits quickly. Can anyone confirm if this is true.

I think it depends more on how you bet than how much you win.

Follow a popular tout and bet the same thing as many other people do at the same time. Chase slow moving lines. Live bet at the last moment often. only bet smaller leagues, or just one sport. And a bunch of other little things they look at more than just your overall winning position.

[gym rat]

Does anyone actually send money offshore anymore? Perhaps I have a unique situation with brick/mortar down the street and multiple apps, but all I hear is people getting scammed. Is the offshore industry doomed? How does a business owner pay rent and make payroll when, at best, the customers are scalping and line shopping?

Which apps do you use ? As far as I understand, all sportsbook apps are not legal in California. Although I heard BetOpenly is available since it is peer to peer.

Do you get limited on your apps if you win? I heard Draftkings and FanDuel will lower limits quickly. Can anyone confirm if this is true.

[gym rat]

I made a withdrawal request via Bitcoin 3 days ago on June 16th for $2K . The last two withdrawals were paid very quickly within a day or 2 however this was back at end of 2023 and early 2024. They have always been fair in the past with me so hopefully I will get paid and it sure would be nice if they could improve their site and book to be more profitable. I will update on the payout progress.

[statguy]

Have a buddy who's doing his first cashout with DSI, he's down around $30k in 2 years but finally completed a rollover. Balance is around $10k and he's been waiting over a month for his first $5k cashout. They have no expected payment date and told him "you'll get it when we send it".

Does anyone actually send money offshore anymore? Perhaps I have a unique situation with brick/mortar down the street and multiple apps, but all I hear is people getting scammed. Is the offshore industry doomed? How does a business owner pay rent and make payroll when, at best, the customers are scalping and line shopping?

[Playboyy09]

may 22 asked for the fuckin withdraw !
first they scammed me
out of 9k with the “bonus”! second first cash out of 5000 took almost 2 weeks to receive ,third this is the second and last withdraw from these scumbags and STILL in the “queue “ from may 22 ! Do NOT use these lousy scumbags ! I hope they are all put out of business and living on the street .

this is what a gentleman said about these lowlifes
Unfortunately DSI is not a player friendly book. It's just as likely someone who has taken a dislike to you is holding it up on purpose as any glitch, the way they operate.

They have refused to mediate problems with SBR for many years now.

They rarely do not pay up in full once they have approved the first part payment though, so just waiting it out is probably the way to go.

Regards,

Brad Scott

SBR Dispute Resolution Service

SportsbookReview.com

brad.scott@sbrmail.com

[Playboyy09]

Cashed out may 22nd! Still waiting for my 5000 , these fucking scumbags say “ Your is in line Payouts gets process as they come in” They will also scam you out of bonuses and not tell you can only transfer 10k of bonus to regular cashier , so when they transfered my 19k, they failed to mention they just pocket anything over 10k . Do NOT use this sportsbook , used to be good but new ownership has ran it right into the ground . I don’t know how they are still in business . Bookmaker and heritage remain the best .