YouWager Invented Lies and is Confiscating My $77,721

[RonPaul2008]

I think they should pay the guy. That being said, I feel much better about the safety of my funds there now that we know the details here. I think the captcha on my account was an automatic thing that was triggered, but it seems they can probably discern the difference between a normal steam bettor and a robot.

[Grumsi]

I think they should pay the guy. That being said, I feel much better about the safety of my funds there now that we know the details here. I think the captcha on my account was an automatic thing that was triggered, but it seems they can probably discern the difference between a normal steam bettor and a robot.

Yeah, by how high is the balance and how much they can stiff.

[Natty68]

just another shot taker,even though i detest youwager,this guy is just another scammer

Gotta agree. The more I hear the more it sounds like some angle-shooting. The squares betting nfl sides at -110 NEVER seem to have any issues. Jus sayin

[JoeCool20]

I’m pretty sure OP stated that he placed the lower wagers to track not that he was limited. If he was indeed limited and just kept on hammering along like you say, then he may very well have violated the TOS but I don’t think we can draw that conclusion just yet. If that’s the case they should still come to a settlement.

LOL yeah he stated he made the $1 wagers HIMSELF! Never said he was limited. It's about the 4th time on this thread that somebody was wrong about that like they can't even fukkin read or something!
Just goes to show how far some of these idiots on here will go to claim a fellow player is somehow "cheating the poor S-book" when they really haven't got a clue what happened.

None of us know what really happened.

SBR would say probably about 75% of the time, the person who files these complaints is lying like a dog about what really happened!

But is this guy lying? Who knows?

If he isn't lying, then I stand by the fact that there is no way to "solidly" prove it, so it just depends on whether they steal his money or not without "solid" proof.

[SBR Forum]

LOL yeah he stated he made the $1 wagers HIMSELF! Never said he was limited. It's about the 4th time on this thread that somebody was wrong about that like they can't even fukkin read or something!
Just goes to show how far some of these idiots on here will go to claim a fellow player is somehow "cheating the poor S-book" when they really haven't got a clue what happened.

None of us know what really happened.

SBR would say probably about 75% of the time, the person who files these complaints is lying like a dog about what really happened!

But is this guy lying? Who knows?

If he isn't lying, then I stand by the fact that there is no way to "solidly" prove it, so it just depends on whether they steal his money or not without "solid" proof.

The $1 wagers were placed after the limit was enforced, not before. This is agreed upon by both parties.

[JoeCool20]

Originally Posted by michael777
just another shot taker,even though i detest youwager,this guy is just another scammer



"Gotta agree. The more I hear the more it sounds like some angle-shooting. The squares betting nfl sides at -110 NEVER seem to have any issues. Jus sayin"









LOL Please tell me how it is "scamming" or "angle shooting" a sports-book in a way that the OP claims to have made HUNDREDS of bets that the S-book ACCEPTED from him with no questions asked!

If you bet in Vegas, then you get a bet ticket, then you go cash it in if you win!

You don't get called a "scammer" when you try to get paid for bets that THEY accepted!


Please tell me how you can make hundreds of bets at YouWager that the sports-book ACCEPTS, but then after you win and try to get a payout, they come back and say that even thought they accepted all the bets, they aren't going to pay you because they say you are a "scammer" or an "angle shooter"?????


LOL If that stupid sheit was true, then they could cheat EVERY SINGLE winner out of their money that they won by simply waiting for them to request a payout and then call them a "scammer" or an "angle shooter" and cheat them out of their money!!!!!!


LOL they'd NEVER have to pay ANYBODY!!

[littlekona]

The $1 wagers were placed after the limit was enforced, not before. This is agreed upon by both parties.

so the OP only stated doing the $1 bets after Youwager limited him to $1max?

[cyclingbettor]

I find it sad that we operate in an industry where "it looks like maybe you're doing something" constitutes a valid reason for taking someone's money. Just my 2c.

[Miz]

if they had an issue with him, they should've done something before he built up such a large balance. Maybe when he got to 20k they could've said... hmmm, maybe we don't like how he is beating us, and paid him out then. Now it is out in the open that they cannot be trusted with large sums of money. That is enough for me. I have had very good experiences with them and had over 10k in there, paid out without incident. But this is a bad look for them... one they cant' recover from without clearing it up.

[JoeCool20]

The $1 wagers were placed after the limit was enforced, not before. This is agreed upon by both parties.

None of us know what really happened.

SBR would say probably about 75% of the time, the person who files these complaints is lying like a dog about what really happened!

But is this guy lying? Who knows?

I just know one thing for sure and it ain't got nuthin to do with no $1 bets!

If he isn't lying, then I stand by the fact that there is no way to "solidly" prove that he was using some kind of "betting robot", so it just depends on whether they steal his money or not without "solid" proof.

[Crusherrr]

None of us know what really happened.

SBR would say probably about 75% of the time, the person who files these complaints is lying like a dog about what really happened!

But is this guy lying? Who knows?

I just know one thing for sure and it ain't got nuthin to do with no $1 bets!

If he isn't lying, then I stand by the fact that there is no way to "solidly" prove that he was using some kind of "betting robot", so it just depends on whether they steal his money or not without "solid" proof.

Imagine betting thousands per wager for x amount of months, getting limited to $1 bets and continue betting without asking why you are limited or stopping betting until its resolved. It wasnt because he wanted to keep seeing how the bets would have performed. It's because it took 70 something bets at $1 amount before he logged in himself and realized his account had been limited. YouWager limited him to see what the account would do and it bet into the $1 limits. He ran up the balance to $77k without ever verifying his account with them. Youwager is probably to blame for not noticing it sooner but even though they may not be able to 100% prove wrongdoing it's obvious OP was doing something wrong by using some type of software. You don't just keep betting $1 with $77k in the account 70 something times without saying anything to customer support or asking to speak with a manager.

[JoeCool20]

It wasnt because he wanted to keep seeing how the bets would have performed. It's because it took 70 something bets at $1 amount before he logged in himself and realized his account had been limited. YouWager limited him to see what the account would do and it bet into the $1 limits. You don't just keep betting $1 with $77k in the account 70 something times without saying anything to customer support or asking to speak with a manager.

LOL Who said he did ANY of those things you just posted?

Now you are just totally "guessing" at what YOU THINK happened when you really haven't got a clue if your assumptive shit is DEAD WRONG or not!!


Since you have NO IDEA whether ANY of what you just posted is true, then my only question is why the hell would you side with the S-Book with all those "wild guesses"?

Why would you flat out assume that a fellow player did all that shit when you have no idea?

Why not "guess" the exact opposite of everything you just posted and say your fellow player didn't do any of that and the book should pay him?

[TheMoneyShot]

Imagine betting thousands per wager for x amount of months, getting limited to $1 bets and continue betting without asking why you are limited or stopping betting until its resolved. It wasnt because he wanted to keep seeing how the bets would have performed. It's because it took 70 something bets at $1 amount before he logged in himself and realized his account had been limited.

SBR Forum just indicated above (in this thread) that $1 wagers were agreed by both parties. OP was already aware his acct was limited.

[Crusherrr]

LOL Who said he did ANY of those things you just posted?

Now you are just totally "guessing" at what YOU THINK happened when you really haven't got a clue if your assumptive shit is DEAD WRONG or not!!


Since you have NO IDEA whether ANY of what you just posted is true, then my only question is why the hell would you side with the S-Book with all those "wild guesses"?

Why would you flat out assume that a fellow player did all that shit when you have no idea?

Why not "guess" the exact opposite of everything you just posted and say your fellow player didn't do any of that and the book should pay him?

Joecool- You call people out for not reading the threads before commenting and then you comment on what I said obviously without reading the thread. None of what I said is speculation or a guess. It's mapped out entirely for you but I suppose you can't connect the dots.

Just when I think you can't be any more mindless you go ahead and respond like this.

[qsgsg]

Another possibility: the book free rolled him and waiting to ban OP when he asks for withdrawal.

[thomorino]

Regardless of the outcome here this looks bad for youwager. If youwager refuses to pay the OP why did they not ban his account when he was building his bankroll up to at or close to 77k, youwager doesn't have very high limits, why wait until he asks for a withdrawal to take action, this shows the book has very poor risk management.

The player is stupid for running his account up that high at a book that only pays out 1k a day or less with payout methods, but youwager's claims even if true don't make the book look good - why wasn't action taken sooner.

[Crusherrr]

Regardless of the outcome here this looks bad for youwager. If youwager refuses to pay the OP why did they not ban his account when he was building his bankroll up to at or close to 77k, youwager doesn't have very high limits, why wait until he asks for a withdrawal to take action, this shows the book has very poor risk management.

The player is stupid for running his account up that high at a book that only pays out 1k a day or less with payout methods, but youwager's claims even if true don't make the book look good - why wasn't action taken sooner.

Both very valid statements. YouWager should have booted him sooner if that was their plan the whole way.

[milwaukee mike]

Regardless of the outcome here this looks bad for youwager. If youwager refuses to pay the OP why did they not ban his account when he was building his bankroll up to at or close to 77k, youwager doesn't have very high limits, why wait until he asks for a withdrawal to take action, this shows the book has very poor risk management.

The player is stupid for running his account up that high at a book that only pays out 1k a day or less with payout methods, but youwager's claims even if true don't make the book look good - why wasn't action taken sooner.

why do you keep saying that

they do 2k bitcoin, 3k checks, or 15k wires

in 1 week you could take 6k of checks, and a 15k wire for a total of 21k/week

[thomorino]

why do you keep saying that

they do 2k bitcoin, 3k checks, or 15k wires

in 1 week you could take 6k of checks, and a 15k wire for a total of 21k/week

The most common method to get paid is bitcoin, and it would take 2 months to get paid 77k in bitcoin at youwager since they don't do payouts on weekends, it makes no sense to run your balance up that big at a book like this, many banks don't do wires with offshore books and its risky to do that if gambling isn't legal in your state - don't care.

[RonPaul2008]

I received my payout without delay.

[milwaukee mike]

The most common method to get paid is bitcoin, and it would take 2 months to get paid 77k in bitcoin at youwager since they don't do payouts on weekends, it makes no sense to run your balance up that big at a book like this, many banks don't do wires with offshore books and its risky to do that if gambling isn't legal in your state - don't care.

what don't you care about?

that you were wrong about 1k max payouts, when it's 15k wire or 2k bitcoin?

or that you are now wrong again, saying they don't do payouts on weekends... they do same day bitcoin payouts on saturday, unless in the twilight zone that is morino-land saturday doesn't count as the weekend, just like wire transfers don't count as payouts, and 1k is really 2k

[Crusherrr]

what don't you care about?

that you were wrong about 1k max payouts, when it's 15k wire or 2k bitcoin?

or that you are now wrong again, saying they don't do payouts on weekends... they do same day bitcoin payouts on saturday, unless in the twilight zone that is morino-land saturday doesn't count as the weekend, just like wire transfers don't count as payouts, and 1k is really 2k

Mike- Bitcoin payouts were $1k each 3x a week for a while. Mine were $2k then went to $1k for a very long time and only recently went back to $2k like two weeks ago. Every account may be different too.

[TheMoneyShot]

Regardless of the outcome here this looks bad for youwager. If youwager refuses to pay the OP why did they not ban his account when he was building his bankroll up to at or close to 77k, youwager doesn't have very high limits, why wait until he asks for a withdrawal to take action, this shows the book has very poor risk management.

Hit the nail on the head. 100% agree. Book will suffer if they don't pay.

[milwaukee mike]

Mike- Bitcoin payouts were $1k each 3x a week for a while. Mine were $2k then went to $1k for a very long time and only recently went back to $2k like two weeks ago. Every account may be different too.

true... but someone with 77k would obviously be more interested in taking 15k wire transfers.

morino only thinks it's silly to have 77k because he bets $20 and assumes everyone else does the same... someone betting 5k-10k/game is going to want a bigger balance

[thomorino]

what don't you care about?

that you were wrong about 1k max payouts, when it's 15k wire or 2k bitcoin?

or that you are now wrong again, saying they don't do payouts on weekends... they do same day bitcoin payouts on saturday, unless in the twilight zone that is morino-land saturday doesn't count as the weekend, just like wire transfers don't count as payouts, and 1k is really 2k

true... but someone with 77k would obviously be more interested in taking 15k wire transfers.

morino only thinks it's silly to have 77k because he bets $20 and assumes everyone else does the same... someone betting 5k-10k/game is going to want a bigger balance

Fuk off

[thomorino]

Not that I care - Milwaukee Mike one of the dumbest posters in the forum missing the point again - youwager has very low payout limits on their accounts for bitcoin. Bank Wires are difficult and not the preferred method for most customers for a variety of reasons - no one intelligent would run their balance up to 77k at a book that limits customers to 1-2k a day in bitcoin transfers.

The best part of this thread is listening to meathead mike getting destroyed by most responding.

[thomorino]

Not that I care, Mike doesn't have worry about payouts, judging by his record in BTP if he bet any real money on the games he picks he'd be broke

[thomorino]

Not that I care - I can cite a specific book that kicked me out - get lost

[milwaukee mike]

morino you really have some mental problems

talk to yourself in private please, and quit wasting everyone's time with your stupidity and ignorance

[thomorino]

morino you really have some mental problems

talk to yourself in private please, and quit wasting everyone's time with your stupidity and ignorance

Fuk off

[thomorino]

Not that I care, broke loser follows me around the forum all week because he can't make dik betting - look at his records in the contests.

[downsouth]

Not that I care, broke loser follows me around the forum all week because he can't make dik betting - look at his records in the contests.

I'll take Mike over you any day as someone that has actual knowledge on gambling or any related topics.


Will also take him having a substantially higher net worth, gambling more, and for larger stakes.

[thomorino]

I'll take Mike over you any day as someone that has actual knowledge on gambling or any related topics.

Will also take him having a substantially higher net worth, gambling more, and for larger stakes.

Broke loser can't pick a winner in any sports, he probably bets 5 bucks a game at Bovada like you

[BankrBIG]

OP should save all the information, wait for YouWager to apply for a market license, then take them to court to get his money. It would have never been a problem if he was losing, so pay him for the bets they accepted.

[littlekona]

OP should save all the information, wait for YouWager to apply for a market license, then take them to court to get his money. It would have never been a problem if he was losing, so pay him for the bets they accepted.

lol..get Michael Avenatti to represent too right