YouWager Invented Lies and is Confiscating My $77,721

[BetLoose18]

With the assistance of SBR, me and YouWager have reached a satisfactory settlement!

care to share what that agreement was even in pm ?

[SBR Forum]

YouWager's position is that the player used a robot on 20% of his wagers. During their review of his wagers, they identified patterns that they felt were consistent with robot use. What YouWager considered to be the most obvious example was after applying limits of $1, a wager was placed within 20 seconds of adjusting the line.

SBR spoke with senior YouWager staff during the course of the complaint. The rule in question prohibiting robot play is not a rule unique to YouWager's terms and conditions, it is a rule that some bookmakers have, but SBR's position is that the enforcement of the rule should be to close accounts and pay on accepted wagers. While in hindsight we think risk management could have acted sooner, ultimately a resolution considered fair to both parties was worked out concluding the matter.

[milwaukee mike]

care to share what that agreement was even in pm ?

apparently the original offer (before sbr was involved) was $15,000 which clown didn't want any part of... so we can assume it's something between 15,001 and 77,721... my guess is that it's closer to the top end.

[MonkeyF0cker]

YouWager's position is that the player used a robot on 20% of his wagers. During their review of his wagers, they identified patterns that they felt were consistent with robot use. What YouWager considered to be the most obvious example was after applying limits of $1, a wager was placed within 20 seconds of adjusting the line.

SBR spoke with senior YouWager staff during the course of the complaint. The rule in question prohibiting robot play is not a rule unique to YouWager's terms and conditions, it is a rule that some bookmakers have, but SBR's position is that the enforcement of the rule should be to close accounts and pay on accepted wagers. While in hindsight we think risk management could have acted sooner, ultimately a resolution considered fair to both parties was worked out concluding the matter.

A 20 second response time after a line move is proof of a bot to Youwager? Was he supposedly running it on a 286 off of a floppy drive?

Unbelievable.

[semibluff]

A 20 second response time after a line move is proof of a bot to Youwager? Was he supposedly running it on a 286 off of a floppy drive?

Unbelievable.

Hey! I resemble that remark!

[HedgeHog]

To summarize, YouWager stole less and all parties are good with it.

[Heltah Skeltah]

To summarize, YouWager stole less and all parties are good with it.

Looks to be the case

[downsouth]

To summarize, YouWager stole less and all parties are good with it.

Because unfortunately for the player, something is better than nothing. Still, complete bullshit rule and absolutely opens up future confiscations of player funds for whatever reason the book can manage to twist together. Added to my do not play list.

[JoeCool20]

YouWager's position is that the player used a robot on 20% of his wagers. During their review of his wagers, they identified patterns that they felt were consistent with robot use. What YouWager considered to be the most obvious example was after applying limits of $1, a wager was placed within 20 seconds of adjusting the line.

LOL Note the words "considered" and "they felt were consistent with" when they are talking about robot betting!


As I have already said 5 times, and now I know I still stand by it... There is NO WAY to "solidly" prove a player used a robot, so they give non proven reasons why they "Considered" that he used a robot!


LOL So now every player at You wager who gets limited to $1 and then makes a bet "within 20 seconds of adjusting the line" will be "considered" and "felt like" they may have used a robot and then have their money stolen?

Well OK then, whomever would still deposit at youWager under those absurd circumstances deserves to have their money stolen!

[gauchojake]

What's their current rating?

[baseballstud]

What's their current rating?

A and listed under best sports books tab

[firedawg]

Amazing
I get a week timeout from sbr for having an opinion on this
Disgusting

[piterp]

SBR is right here if he broken rules they not should allow him to continue game- but they prefer to waiting when he lose all money thats why They not reacted before his withdrawn.

[bubba]

Amazing
I get a week timeout from sbr for having an opinion on this
Disgusting

agree

Scary

[firedawg]

Clowns now slow grading wagers
Lol
They are fukked

[firedawg]

This book is scared shitless

MMA limits at 300 now


Clown show

[Rich Benjamins]

SBR is right here if he broken rules they not should allow him to continue game- but they prefer to waiting when he lose all money thats why They not reacted before his withdrawn.

Absolutely right. They waited until he decided to withdraw before they said anything. They wanted to see if he'd lose his money first. This book has an A rating on SBR? It should be a D, a C maximum.

[Thunderground]

The old SBR would have named the amount paid.

Anyway, once sports betting is legal in the US, guess what will happen to offshore... When it all comes crashing down, how many books are going to pay out, and how many will take the money and run?

[Vadym]

So if you accidentally plays a bet (or bets) within 10 sec. after line movement Youwager can treat you like a bot ? LOL. Anyway can we know at the end how much they stole, and how it affects sbr rating?

[TheGuesser]

So if you accidentally plays a bet (or bets) within 10 sec. after line movement Youwager can treat you like a bot ? LOL. Anyway can we know at the end how much they stole, and how it affects sbr rating?

1)YouWager's position is that the player used a robot on 20% of his wagers. -Sounds like 20%
2)Not at all- They're still paying their advertising bill.