5Dimes is #1? LOL

[Warin West]

He is just dumb,a classic case of someone who doesn't know and doesn't know that they don't know

You need to team up with relaaxx. The two of you are bound for glory.

I suppose if you were a little more intelligent you would have mentioned the Dunning-Kruger study at Cornell University.
But you did an OK job at positing an unsubstantiated slight.

Most people have no background in Rhetoric, so they wouldn't even spot the fact that your statement violates the Meta Modal. Nor would they even realize that you've offered no objective definition of the word "dumb".

Nor would they realize that you've taken no objective measurements.
What? You drew that conclusion using your Dumb-O-Meter?

"A classic case" . . . sounds so established, doesn't it?

LOL

[Optional]

Thank you, that's a kind suggestion.
I'm done

I don't need sportsbetting. I'm taking this as a signal from the universe that it's time to get out.




I know that. I'm not taking this personally, at all. Go back and read the description of my exchange with Tony. I had fun! When he called me a name, I insulted him right back. And laughed as I did it.

When I was thrown off, I did some research and read how 5Dimes was sweating people over bandwidth.
Here's the thing though - if that's posted on the website in the House Rules, that's one thing.
Just producing it out of thin air is QUITE another.
If he was in this country you could sue him over that, for lack of full disclosure.
He gets away with it only because (seemingly) we can't get to him.

I don't really understand 5D's exact issue with this myself either.

I'm guessing it's something they see as important though. It costs a lot in this industry to acquire new potential players and kicking out so many seems a strange thing to do over 'bandwidth costs', which are cheap these days.

Anyway, if you do change your mind one day, Tony can be just as surprisingly flexible as he can be tough if approached the right way.

[Warin West]

OP sounds unstable.

Are you hearing sounds as you're reading again?
Oh Oh . . . look out for that unicorn !!!


The question remains . . .

5Dimes is #1 ???

LOL

[relaaxx]

I understand the exact issue with this guy. who wouldn't throw him out of their house after listening to him for 5 minutes. he doesn't get thrown out of places for starting fights. he gets thrown out of places because everyone else starts hitting him.

[5918mike]

So did they give you a specific reason, or did you even ask?

[Warin West]

I don't really understand 5D's exact issue with this myself either.

I'm guessing it's something they see as important though. It costs a lot in this industry to acquire new potential players and kicking out so many seems a strange thing to do over 'bandwidth costs', which are cheap these days.

Anyway, if you do change your mind one day, Tony can be just as surprisingly flexible as he can be tough if approached the right way.

You raise some points that I was hoping Tony would address . . .
For instance, do we know for a fact that every time you access the website it costs Tony money?
How do we know that he's not on some sort of package deal?

And he's offshore. The costs have to be a lot lower than here.

Truthfully, I think you're being a bit too kind.
First of all, I want to reiterate that I think Tony's OK.
Nevertheless, I think he's become a max bean counter.

I can't prove this but based on what has happened to me it seems to suggest that he's paring off the small losers.
IOW, the venal calculation has been made that they will operate on the principle of income/bandwidth.
If you fall outside of their threshold: then you're cut off.

The same thing happened to me in a different way at PayPal.
I bought some services online that didn't come through.
Then I used PayPal's protection program to get my money back.
According to PayPal, I did that one too many times and they threw me off.
IOW, PayPal has a ratio of profit to service.
If you demand too much service, it eats into their profit and they throw you off.

So I'm using them as an example to show that it's not just 5Dimes.
This is the new commercial internet.
Where EVERYTHING is about profit.

If you don't lose enough to cover the operating cost of having you as a customer, you're a goner.
Expect this to happen more and more.

This has always been the case in business.
What's new is the tightening of the ratio.
Businesses are getting increasingly greedy.

Tony has made the calculation that the ill-will of throwing people off will not squelch the public's desire to bet.
In the short run he's probably correct.
In the long run the Americans will gain access to the better books again and Tony will have to change his strategy to compete.

Currently, he's got a captive audience and he's taking full advantage.
Which I don't mind, actually.

What I DO mind is SBR listing 5Dimes as #1.
That's a lie and anyone with a reasonable amount of sportsbetting experience knows it's a lie.

[Warin West]

So did they give you a specific reason, or did you even ask?

Read the original post all the way through.

[Warin West]

I understand the exact issue with this guy. who wouldn't throw him out of their house after listening to him for 5 minutes. he doesn't get thrown out of places for starting fights. he gets thrown out of places because everyone else starts hitting him.

" . . . the exact issue . . ."
You do try to make it sound so scientific, don't you?

You know, buddy. I want to thank you.
I had thought that Hasbara was limited to major social media.
But you have helped me to see today that you guys are everywhere.

Thanks for that.

[KVB]

I tried hard to give the OP the benefit of the doubt but the more I read the more I realize he just entered the end of the 20th century and can't figure out where the rest of the posters, in the 21st century, are coming from.

Bro, it's like you just discovered the internet and that it's used for business.

In the end, whether from PayPal or Tony, it seems like you take free shit for granted.

Do you go to Lowe's or Home Depot each spring to by equipment, finish the yard then return the merchandise because you won't need it until next spring and the policy let's you do it?

I'd also assume you eat free Costco samples all day long and do things like buy a bag of chips, eat all but a few, then take them back. After all, the policy allows it .

But that's probably not true because I somehow doubt you would extend for a Costco membership.

I'm trying to go easy on you but when you say things like "I've used SBR for years" and signed up last year, with a few dozen posts on the forum and aren't pro. Ever been pro?

It doesn't really matter, this isn't about SBR or being a pro.

Nobody can knock you for taking advantage of services, especially free services that cost somebody, like Paypal.

But you can get knocked whining about losing free shit.

The 5 Dimes issue makes little sense and I disagree with what we've seen many sites come to do in regards to inactivity, but it's more about clean up.

The Tony response to you was classic, he neither needs nor wants you. That's his right. One day the behavior will bite them because competition will come back into play, they will have to adjust, like you say.

[5918mike]

Read the original post all the way through.

. I did, that's why I asked. ��

[jbayko]

OP sounds unstable.

Yes, very.

The reason 5Dimes has the top spot is very obvious. It’s the best available to the most people. If this board’s members primarily lived in Hong Kong, the #1 book would be quite different, I imagine.

Based on the tenor of his dozens of posts here, all within in a single day, it’s safe to say he flew off the handle and destroyed any chance he had of remaining with the book rather than taking a mature, level-headed approach.

[yahoonino]

I TOTALLY agree:

If you're the type of person who lacks the intellectual capacity to spell "5Dimes" correctly then that's the perfect place for you. More than likely you don't know how to count either.this not a spelling bee contest ,this forum got people from all over the world ,,idiot so don't worry about spelling ,,you notice I spell yuo are on idiot correct

So how would you even know if you were losing. They LOVE guys like you.

you are on idiot,,notice I spell idiot correct

[TheMoneyShot]

Warin West... I'm still trying to figure out the point of this thread?

You said you've been at SBR for years?? What was your other handle?

We know they aren't an A+

But they are better than most books.

[Microphone]

No offense, but I really don't give a damn about Tony. The question remains: How could SBR even remotely give 5Dimes the number 1 spot? You have to be brain-dead not to see the blatant inconsistency in that rating.

As for Tony being "fair" . . .
It's a long-standing rule of jurisprudence and is reflected in the US Constitution.
No one is allowed to be convicted of a charge without the charge being presented to him.
AND that person cannot be convicted without facing his accuser.

Tony's behavior in this case is outside of the universally accepted standard of "fairness" that proceeds him by several generations.
He has a so-called "right" to do whatever he pleases.
And he may be many things.
But he is certainly NOT fair.

Actually the posters voted 5 Dimes number one. They are 1 of 11 tied at A+ from SBR . You have all the smart ass answers, go ahead fire away.

[cubswin]

A lot of 5 dimes shills in here

[Barrakuda]

O/U on the OP's average bet size: $12.50.

[Barrakuda]

Check out the dude's posts:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/search/Warin%20West/31083356-posts.html

Every single one bashing 5 Dimes.

[PAULYPOKER]

Wren ever you're a member at SBR and have complaints about a book but do not post on SBR forums.........

Never and I mean never post a thread in these forums with your complaints........

There are shills here that will tear you a new asshole just on the faCT YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO POSTS
and there are many life hating degenerates here as well,who live to see failure.........

Always go straight to SBR administration with you complaints..........

[PAULYPOKER]

Check out the dude's posts:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/search/Warin%20West/31083356-posts.html

Every single one bashing 5 Dimes.

Nice try...........

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Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

[Warin West]

OMG, You'll Say Anything

Do you go to Lowe's or Home Depot each spring to by equipment . . .

When I'm reading a comment by someone who cannot accurately spell a three-letter word ("buy"), that pretty much renders the rest of the comment moot.

I tried hard to give the OP the benefit of the doubt . . .

"Benefit of the doubt" about what?

If you've got solid proof that 5Dimes is better than The Greek or Pinnacle, let's see it. Vegas rules here, baby . . . put up or shut up.

Unlike you and the other TROLLS, the opinions given by the authentic sportsbettors on this thread is a unanimous agreement that 5Dimes is NOT #1. That's the way this thread has rolled, buddy. And I notice that you have tried (and failed) to divert attention away from that FACT.

F*ck "the OP", the legitimate opinions are in: 5Dimes is NOT #1.

Bro, it's like you just discovered the internet and that it's used for business.

Now you're talking like a complete idiot. I've been using the net since 1994, when looking at porn consisted of clicking on a thumbnail and then three minutes later a still picture of a naked chick would show up on your screen.

At that time, the net was an extremely friendly, NON commercial place where you could get lots of information from caring people for free. You're PRETENDING that the current net is the norm. It's NOT. It's a bastardization of the original net and it has all of the worthless greed to go with it.

YOU'RE the one who's "just discovered the internet" and you're trying to tell us that junk food is steak. Well, excuse me for not buying your fallacious premise.

In the end, whether from PayPal or Tony, it seems like you take free shit for granted.

OMG, You'll say ANYTHING, won't you. Sure thing buddy, 5Dimes is letting everybody bet "for free".

I'm trying to go easy on you but when you say things like "I've used SBR for years"

That ruse has been put to bed earlier in the thread. You've either failed to read the entire thread OR YOU'RE A SHILL. My guess is the latter.

Your premise has a hidden presupposition. I've had THREE separate identities/accounts on SBR. (As a shill, I'm sure you're quite familiar with that principle). Yes, my current identity sign up date was whenever. What does THAT prove? Nothing.

Here, I'll tell you what . . . You prove your presupposition: Prove that EVERYONE on SBR has only maintained ONE identity throughout their entire life. And then, at that point, your premise will be valid. Right now it's just a warm pile of sh*t. Yuck!

Ever been pro?

LOL I'm an actual sportsbettor. I've never entered any of those silly pick contests. Never was interested in being a "Pro". That sh*t is for -- . Losers who aren't making any money, so they have to convince themselves that they're somebody.

I'm only interested in profit. Even in my other identities, I only came to this forum when I had a specific problem. That's IT. I don't read this forum regularly. Like you said, in this identity I've only made a few posts and all of them are about specific issues - period.

I'm not a FORUM JUNKIE, I'm a sportsbettor.

. . .free services that cost somebody, like Paypal.

PayPal is NOT "free". That's a distortion and a lie. Just ask any merchant doing business with PayPal.

But you can get knocked whining about losing free shit.

YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A SHILL.

The title of this piece is: 5Dimes is #1? LOL You're employing the classic technique of the propagandist: SHOOT THE MESSENGER. You've used a lot of words to say NOTHING about the title of this thread. If you've got proof that 5Dimes is #1 then let's have it.

I'm willing to go along with your bullshit. F*ck the OP, he's a piece of crap . . . fine. Now, once again, let's see your proof that Pinnacle or The Greek has an infamous Tony-type character. Show us the proof that Pinnacle or The Greek are paring off the bettors that provide lower profits. Show us proof that Pinnacle or The Greek are monitoring bandwidth usage.

Let's see your PROOF ABOUT THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD. Otherwise, sit down and shut up, boy.

The 5 Dimes issue makes little sense and I disagree with what we've seen many sites come to do in regards to inactivity, but it's more about clean up.

The Tony response to you was classic, he neither needs nor wants you. That's his right. One day the behavior will bite them because competition will come back into play, they will have to adjust, like you say.

WTF !!! Did you see that? (All these shills LOVE to use the word "classic". It gives the air of authenticity to their stupid comments).

Basically, after running me down, this idiot basically AGREES WITH ME that Tony is merely taking advantage of the fact that he has no real competition. In his attempt to continue to degrade the messenger, this propogandist omits the fact that we neither need nor want Tony.

Of course, the degenerates DO need him. But I don't
And, like I said earlier in this thread, I don't even need sports betting anymore.

It's all a great big FRAUD . . .

1) SBR is hiding their business identity. What's their address? Anybody know?
2) If my memory serves me correctly, when 5Dimes opened their doors, SBR rated them at about #7. Over time they moved up to about #5 and that's where they sat.

What's changed? Well, apparently the ownership of SBR. Seems to me that I used to know the names of actual people behind the scenes at SBR. That's no longer the case. SBR is NOT the original SBR by any means, other than the forum looks the same.

But the ratings are now bullsh#t.

Why has Tony turned into a MAJOR BEAN COUNTER? Probably to make up for the payoffs he's giving to SBR to keep him in that #1 spot.

I've never been into arbitrage or any other angle of trying to make a fast buck at the expense of the books. Just honest old school handicapping. So, to be thrown off a betting site is the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

It's bullsh*t. I'm through.

You can do whatever you like to cow manure, it's not going to turn into a sack of hamburgers.

[Warin West]

. I did, that's why I asked. ��

Ooooops, I meant the second post.

[Warin West]

[QUOTE=jbayko;27692145]The reason 5Dimes has the top spot is very obvious. It’s the best available to the most people. If this board’s members primarily lived in Hong Kong, the #1 book would be quite different, I imagine./QUOTE]

LOL

You SEEM very knowledgeable. A "board", you say . . . .

1) What's this board's business address?
2) How many people are on the board?
3) What are their full legal names?

Based on the tenor of his dozens of posts here . . .

You failed to mention the DOZENS OF TROLL POSTS.

it’s safe to say he flew off the handle . . .

"Flew off the handle", is that a scientific term? LOL

destroyed any chance he had of remaining with the book rather than taking a mature, level-headed approach.

UNSUBSTANTIATED PRESUPPOSITION: Remaining with a f*cked up book is "mature" and "level-headed".

Looks like bullsh*t to me.

[Warin West]

you are on idiot,,notice I spell idiot correct

Good for you!

Tell your mommy I said to give you a cookie.

[shari91]

Your premise has a hidden presupposition. I've had THREE separate identities/accounts on SBR. (As a shill, I'm sure you're quite familiar with that principle). Yes, my current identity sign up date was whenever. What does THAT prove? Nothing.
Even in my other identities, I only came to this forum when I had a specific problem. That's IT. I don't read this forum regularly. Like you said, in this identity I've only made a few posts and all of them are about specific issues - period.

And now your new identity is toast. Bloody hell you're an idiot
Oh and SBR is hiding it's location and contact details but had a f'n BASH in Costa Rica where forum posters went to our headquarters. I'd say Jesus weeps at your stupidity but considering the weekend he's had he's even probably laughing at you now.

Piss off for good. You're embarrassing yourself now.

[lonnie55]

I've had at least THREE identities on SBR.

According to PayPal, I did that one too many times and they threw me off.

3 accounts with SBR, booted out by PayPal - you are not putting yourself in a good light in this thread.

I definitely agree with you, there should be no doubt about Pinnacle is the #1 online sportsbook on the planet. But as someone said before, SBR is a US-based platform and since Pinnacle dismissed USA they are putting the best option for US people on #1 which is - maybe - 5dimes. I can not judge because I hardly used them in the past.

You made your point clear. 5dimes is not OVERALL #1, and I agree with you. But maybe it's the best or one of the best available options for US people.

[cincinnatikid513]

sounded little bit like thomornio, especially how he had to respond to every single message he was famous for that couldn't let anything go i also believe the convo he posted with tony is madeup never seen him use some of those words

[deltgen]

Warin--first, permit me to say how refreshing it is to see someone who writes in complete sentences, is able to spell, knows when and when not to capitalize, and that doesn't force one to damn near need a translator. Honestly--thank you for that.
That is my take on your style; now, on to the substance. You made a post giving your opinion--no problem. However, whenever anyone disagrees with you you feel the need to belittle them and call them a troll or shill, which seem to be epitomes of insults to you. Chill out my man--you keep telling people to prove that 5Dimes isn't number one when they are just giving their opinion based on their experiences with that particular book (exactly the same thing that you are doing). I have a feeling that you and BSims are tied for being the second most intelligent people on this site (you're behind me ) but your arrogance and unwillingness to concede anything to others or open your mind to differences of opinions sort of negates it. Be cool, dude.
And I am going to be a little presumptuous here and guess that you will think that I'm a devoted 5Dimes fan and thus label me a shill. I assure you it's not the case. I use a book (betus) that has been castigated on this site many times. I don't care that others aren't fans--it serves my needs and I've not encountered problems with them in over 10 years. Who is or isn't number one? Who the hell knows? We all base our views on our experiences.

[yahoonino]

Warin--first, permit me to say how refreshing it is to see someone who writes in complete sentences, is able to spell, knows when and when not to capitalize, and that doesn't force one to damn near need a translator. Honestly--thank you for that.
That is my take on your style; now, on to the substance. You made a post giving your opinion--no problem. However, whenever anyone disagrees with you you feel the need to belittle them and call them a troll or shill, which seem to be epitomes of insults to you. Chill out my man--you keep telling people to prove that 5Dimes isn't number one when they are just giving their opinion based on their experiences with that particular book (exactly the same thing that you are doing). I have a feeling that you and BSims are tied for being the second most intelligent people on this site (you're behind me ) but your arrogance and unwillingness to concede anything to others or open your mind to differences of opinions sort of negates it. Be cool, dude.
And I am going to be a little presumptuous here and guess that you will think that I'm a devoted 5Dimes fan and thus label me a shill. I assure you it's not the case. I use a book (betus) that has been castigated on this site many times. I don't care that others aren't fans--it serves my needs and I've not encountered problems with them in over 10 years. Who is or isn't number one? Who the hell knows? We all base our views on our experiences.

well said

[5918mike]

And I am going to be a little presumptuous here and guess that you will think that I'm a devoted 5Dimes fan and thus label me a shill. I assure you it's not the case. I use a book (betus) that has been castigated on this site many times. I don't care that others aren't fans--it serves my needs and I've not encountered problems with them in over 10 years. Who is or isn't number one? Who the hell knows? We all base our views on our experiences.

I agree, I use Betus (wagerback is an awesome perk) and DSI to my satisfaction. While cautious after reading others experiences I still use what works for me.

[KVB]

lmao Warin.

When it's all said and done you still don't get where virtually everyone in this thread is coming from...which is this century.

Because of that, all you can do is call everyone a "shill."

Pauly's right about going to SBR admin, but how can they take you seriously?

[KVB]

..."Benefit of the doubt" about what?...

Clearly you didn't deserve but playing dumb certainly didn't help.

[BrickJames]

5 dimes is ancient compared to SBR big guy

[jbayko]

[QUOTE=Warin West;27692557]

The reason 5Dimes has the top spot is very obvious. It’s the best available to the most people. If this board’s members primarily lived in Hong Kong, the #1 book would be quite different, I imagine./QUOTE]

LOL

You SEEM very knowledgeable. A "board", you say . . . .

1) What's this board's business address?
2) How many people are on the board?
3) What are their full legal names?

Message board. And it’s pretty well known that most here are US players. Are you really this obtuse or are you just acting that way?

PS: “Fly off the handle” is a real saying. Look it up.

[Barrakuda]

Nice try...........

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Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Bad link. I'm too busy shilling to triple-check my posts, LOL.

Here is your main man unloading 30 straight anti-5D posts on the fourm:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/search/Warin%20West/31088423-posts.html

[jbayko]

Bad link. I'm too busy shilling to triple-check my posts, LOL.

Here is your main man unloading 30 straight anti-5D posts on the fourm:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...423-posts.html

"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Third time's a charm? ;-)