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  • GradyFuson
    SBR High Roller
    • 06-03-17
    • 218

    #71
    Great book! Not worried at all.
    They would be killing it on the bitcoin surge and are taking huge bets on NFL right now.

    Who reading this thread has an issue with them??? (other than SBR who is likely fishing for sponsorship)
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    • searanchdude
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-10-17
      • 137

      #72
      Thanks Sportsbookreview for being so vigilant... without the reputation ratings here, I don't think my gaming would be possible.

      One question about sportsbook.ag. They've been D- forever, meanwhile I've been able to withdraw tens of thousands over the past year or so without any hickups. But I know they had many problems and I myself was slow paid for an amount that took me months to withdraw. Is there a mechanisms for books to regain a reputation? As a member, can I nominate sportsbook for an increase in reputation?
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      • PeterJohnson
        Restricted User
        • 10-10-17
        • 908

        #73
        Try Nitro there making a KILLING there was a guy who was playing dice a few days ago betting 75k a roll and he rolled about 20 times and there stricly Bitcoin there killing it right now especially with quickest bitcoin w/d in the game.
        Originally posted by GradyFuson
        Great book! Not worried at all.
        They would be killing it on the bitcoin surge and are taking huge bets on NFL right now.

        Who reading this thread has an issue with them??? (other than SBR who is likely fishing for sponsorship)
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        • CashBuilder
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-22-17
          • 29

          #74
          BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?
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          • CashBuilder
            SBR Rookie
            • 09-22-17
            • 29

            #75
            SBR usually gets over $100K annually to advertise a book in an A rating. Did BetDSI pay the $$$$$?
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            • Pareto
              SBR MVP
              • 04-10-07
              • 1058

              #76
              I would also like to know exactly what happened. Did Bookmaker just one day decide to stop backing BetDSI? And if so what about all the clients who signed up because of the financial security of the Bookmaker group?

              If a book can just one day say they will stop the backing of its sister book, then that sister book should always have a lower rating than the "main" book, as they dont both have the same financial security. But maybe I am missing something.
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              • StoneFree
                SBR Rookie
                • 09-22-17
                • 19

                #77
                Originally posted by CashBuilder
                BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?
                BetDSI went on their own this past July.
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 103180

                  #78
                  Originally posted by Pareto
                  I would also like to know exactly what happened. Did Bookmaker just one day decide to stop backing BetDSI? And if so what about all the clients who signed up because of the financial security of the Bookmaker group?

                  If a book can just one day say they will stop the backing of its sister book, then that sister book should always have a lower rating than the "main" book, as they dont both have the same financial security. But maybe I am missing something.
                  Betdsi were never part of Bookmaker. They weren't their sister company. They simply shared the same building and thus teamed up with some of their personnel such as CS, accounting etc.
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                  • Pareto
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-10-07
                    • 1058

                    #79
                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                    Betdsi was never part of Bookmaker. The simply shared the same building and thus teamed up with some of their personnel such as CS, accounting etc.
                    Ok, what about Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet. Are they owned by the same group? So they will all be equally secure? Or can one of them also at one point "go their own way" as it was put.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65521

                      #80
                      Shame, they were once a great book just not to long ago.
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                      • HedgeHog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-11-07
                        • 10128

                        #81
                        Originally posted by searanchdude
                        Thanks Sportsbookreview for being so vigilant... without the reputation ratings here, I don't think my gaming would be possible.

                        One question about sportsbook.ag. They've been D- forever, meanwhile I've been able to withdraw tens of thousands over the past year or so without any hickups. But I know they had many problems and I myself was slow paid for an amount that took me months to withdraw. Is there a mechanisms for books to regain a reputation? As a member, can I nominate sportsbook for an increase in reputation?
                        Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.
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                        • DwightShrute
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-17-09
                          • 103180

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Pareto
                          Ok, what about Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet. Are they owned by the same group? So they will all be equally secure? Or can one of them also at one point "go their own way" as it was put.
                          Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.
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                          • Pareto
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-10-07
                            • 1058

                            #83
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.
                            Thank you!
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                            • HedgeHog
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-11-07
                              • 10128

                              #84
                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                              Bookmaker, Betcris and Justbet yes.
                              How about Galaxy, where I still play. Used to be affiliated with DSI and now with the Bookmaker group, right?
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                              • searanchdude
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 08-10-17
                                • 137

                                #85
                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.
                                Hedgehog... I've experienced their 4 month slowpay. But given their reliability since BTC, am wondering if they deserve vetter than D-. If I was ruler of the world, I'd consider them a C book lack of complaints for about a year. However, I agree I don't have a great argument.
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 103180

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                  How about Galaxy, where I still play. Used to be affiliated with DSI and now with the Bookmaker group, right?
                                  Galaxy stayed with Bookmaker.

                                  99.99% sure of that.
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                                  • moojoo
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-02-16
                                    • 938

                                    #87
                                    Dsi was same company as bkr,under betcris umbrella. I dont know why you say that it isnt so dwight?
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                                    • DwightShrute
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 103180

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by moojoo
                                      Dsi was same company as bkr,under betcris umbrella. I dont know why you say that it isnt so dwight?
                                      They were not the same company. Ask them if you don't believe me. They shared the same building and some of the staff for 12 years.
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                                      • CashBuilder
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 09-22-17
                                        • 29

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by StoneFree
                                        BetDSI went on their own this past July.
                                        Where did you get your source? BetDSI is always a sister book of Bookmaker.eu.
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                                        • CashBuilder
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 09-22-17
                                          • 29

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                          They were not the same company. Ask them if you don't believe me. They shared the same building and some of the staff for 12 years.
                                          C'mon kid. Sounds B.S to me.
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                                          • thetrinity
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-25-11
                                            • 22430

                                            #91
                                            always thought they were a tad shady

                                            seems like quite a big drop because of a few complaints though
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                                            • Crusherrr
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-27-16
                                              • 3649

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                              Not a great argument. Sportsbook.ag are thieves and notorious slow payers--at least prior to BTC. Checks would take 3-4 MONTHS (not weeks) to arrive. BTW, they stole 9k from me 10 years ago. Shiit book worthy of their D- rating.
                                              Searanchdude and I are two players who both have had mostly positive experiences with Sportsbook.ag and have received large payouts recently from them. That being said, I'd still recommend at least a dozen sites before I'd suggest Sportsbook.ag. I don't think they are a D book at this moment though.

                                              Regarding BetDSI. The fact that they have been dropped to a D seems drastic. Most players have been reporting very positive things from DSI. My experience with DSI has been mostly positive too. I have no balance there at the moment but would not worry one bit if I did. I think they are still a reliable book.
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                                              • RoyBacon
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-21-05
                                                • 37074

                                                #93
                                                They are paying small fish and stiffing the big ones. Two of the no pays are over $10k, one of those is over $20k.

                                                The problem is once in a while a small fish gets lucky. Probably a very good idea not to request a payout over say $5k.

                                                Looks a a lot like a liquidity issue.
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                                                • HedgeHog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                  • 10128

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                  Searanchdude and I are two players who both have had mostly positive experiences with Sportsbook.ag and have received large payouts recently from them. That being said, I'd still recommend at least a dozen sites before I'd suggest Sportsbook.ag. I don't think they are a D book at this moment though.

                                                  Regarding BetDSI. The fact that they have been dropped to a D seems drastic. Most players have been reporting very positive things from DSI. My experience with DSI has been mostly positive too. I have no balance there at the moment but would not worry one bit if I did. I think they are still a reliable book.
                                                  DSI has been good to me too, before and after their break from the CRIS brand of books. Same day payouts are still the norm for me, but I am concerned about the rising number of complaints. It's only a handful right now, but those affected all have large balances. It does remind me of what Sportsbook did a decade ago to the large balance holders. They were screwed while the smaller accounts were kept current. So I'm keeping my exposure to DSI to a minimum at this point.
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                                                  • Krashman
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-24-09
                                                    • 3748

                                                    #95
                                                    WTF has BetDSI gone rogue or something? Dropping from A to D in days!

                                                    I busted out in September and I'm so glad that for once I listened to my gut, had a bad feeling about reloading.

                                                    Place started to remind me of the Canbet fiasco for some reason.

                                                    SBR what is going on here?
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                                                    • grantingyou
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-05-10
                                                      • 624

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by CashBuilder
                                                      BetDSI is Bookmaker.eu's sister book. Does this matter affect Bookmaker.eu too? I have over 5 figures with them. I never have any problems with them since I opened the account with them back in 2013. Should I worry?
                                                      Not anymore.
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                                                      • Microphone
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-08-08
                                                        • 2950

                                                        #97
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61461

                                                          #98
                                                          Seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread.

                                                          DSI was always it's own company and was just using CRIS infrastructure. CRIS/Bookmaker always had their back whilst doing that and would not have allowed the business to fail or go rouge, but they were always separate owners.


                                                          Here is a timeline of what has happened since DSI moved out;


                                                          BetDSI to Relocate to New Facility & Statement on Move - 07.09.2017

                                                          Update on BetDSI Sportsbook Website Migration & Issues - 07.11.2017

                                                          BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to C - 11.27.2017

                                                          BetDSI Sportsbook Downgraded to D+ - 12.08.2017
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                                                          • TheMoneyShot
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-07
                                                            • 28672

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                            always thought they were a tad shady

                                                            seems like quite a big drop because of a few complaints though
                                                            Possibly SBR knows more. I'm glad they are looking out for us.
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                                                            • ETSSteve
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 12-09-17
                                                              • 2

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              Possibly SBR knows more. I'm glad they are looking out for us.

                                                              LOL.
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                                                              • DwightShrute
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-17-09
                                                                • 103180

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by CashBuilder
                                                                C'mon kid. Sounds B.S to me.
                                                                are you perhaps the same guy at the pub who claimed Pepsi and Coca Cola were the same companies?
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                                                                • Outsider626
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-10-16
                                                                  • 855

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Is Bookmaker.eu safe? I heard they were together with BetDSI.
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                                                                  • captrobey
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                                    • 34356

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    are you perhaps the same guy at the pub who claimed Pepsi and Coca Cola were the same companies?
                                                                    No. You have to be making that up lol. It reminds me of someone i know that insists that Indians from the United States (Native American) And Indians from India are the exact same thing. No matter what everyone tells him he still does not listen and insists we are all wrong.
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 103180

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by captrobey
                                                                      No. You have to be making that up lol. It reminds me of someone i know that insists that Indians from the United States (Native American) And Indians from India are the exact same thing. No matter what everyone tells him he still does not listen and insists we are all wrong.
                                                                      sad to say no. He said they teamed up to make cola wars a "thing" in order to sell more pop. He also cited that how come they are both sold in the same pop machines and in the same cooler at 7/11? Maybe he's got a point come to think of it. Could this be one of the greatest hoaxes in history? I should ask my native indian friend next time I am in 7/11.
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                                                                      • captrobey
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 09-02-10
                                                                        • 34356

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                        sad to say no. He said they teamed up to make cola wars a "thing" in order to sell more pop. He also cited that how come they are both sold in the same pop machines and in the same cooler at 7/11? Maybe he's got a point come to think of it. Could this be one of the greatest hoaxes in history? I should ask my native indian friend next time I am in 7/11.
                                                                        Wow lol. Funny thing is his wife is actually part Native American Indian as i am too a little. So it is a bit of an insult when he says it. I like the guy but some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth at times is comical.

                                                                        I have never seen Coke in a Pepsi machine or **** versa. I have seen (And way back i used to fill vending machines) independently owned machines that the owners can put whatever they felt like into it.
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