Topbet payouts

[R40]

Yes. In my opinion, they are solid and well run. But they will get you on the way out if you aren't careful.

I would not deposit a lot in there. They will limit you to $250.

Definitely worth a trial run and then decide for yourself.

[milwaukee mike]

Yes. In my opinion, they are solid and well run. But they will get you on the way out if you aren't careful.

I would not deposit a lot in there. They will limit you to $250.

Definitely worth a trial run and then decide for yourself.

thanks for the info, those were pretty much the thoughts i got from searching

have you been around other forums? you seem wise beyond your time here, and that you've been around the block as a winning player

[R40]

thanks for the info, those were pretty much the thoughts i got from searching

have you been around other forums? you seem wise beyond your time here, and that you've been around the block as a winning player

Haven't posted much on forums but you do know me from another site. I do a lot of research and take bonuses. I'm not as aggressive as most. I play it pretty safe.

Take the optimal amount of the bonus. They really specialize in small accounts. Not sure what they do in terms of props but think they will max you at $250 from the start and possibly knock you down quick.

[milwaukee mike]

Haven't posted much on forums but you do know me from another site. I do a lot of research and take bonuses. I'm not as aggressive as most. I play it pretty safe.

Take the optimal amount of the bonus. They really specialize in small accounts. Not sure what they do in terms of props but think they will max you at $250 from the start and possibly knock you down quick.

playing it safe avoids a lot of headaches!

funniest thing that ever happened was when betowi was slow paying me 2 years ago... they would call with paypal card numbers and give me 500/week, always at the worst possible time and if i missed the call too bad i had to wait until the following week.

so i was walking into coors field and going through the metal detector. just after i put the phone down, it rang from betowi. so i said "i have to take this", grabbed the phone and started walking while the metal detector was going off

thought i was gonna get arrested and have to explain the slow pay situation

[thomorino]

Topbet is a second tier bonus book in the category of BetPhoenix group, GTBets, Americas Bookie, WagerWeb, Jazz. Those books are thriving and have no trouble paying out for any reasons.

The only book with a major problem is CRS Sportsbet which was entirely predictable.

Never even seen Readytobet mentioned and did not know they existed.

There are several books that were affiliated with betisland, the original founder, that went under this year, but OBVIOUSLY topbet was not as well capitalized as the other books, no one is arguing that. Many books have started being more aggressive limiting and kicking players out as the previous poster who work for casino said. GT Bets kicked me out after just 1 year of betting. None of these books catering to recreational bettors likely made money this year, given the NBA numbers I went over and the NFL season.

[thomorino]

thanks for the info, those were pretty much the thoughts i got from searching

have you been around other forums? you seem wise beyond your time here, and that you've been around the block as a winning player

Mike the best bonus being offered at a legit books that I've seen is the 100% cash bonus being offered at GT Bets. This books pays sameday and is very legit. The bonus is low but absolutely legit.

[R40]

There are several books that were affiliated with betisland, the original founder, that went under this year, but OBVIOUSLY topbet was not as well capitalized as the other books, no one is arguing that. Many books have started being more aggressive limiting and kicking players out as the previous poster who work for casino said. GT Bets kicked me out after just 1 year of betting. None of these books catering to recreational bettors likely made money this year, given the NBA numbers I went over and the NFL season.

Yes, I know you are sticking to that idea. It is really irrelevant with Topbet. The damage was done before. Things only got worse. I'm rooting for them. It is the best book to bet at hands down which is the problem. I hope they make it.

[R40]

playing it safe avoids a lot of headaches!

funniest thing that ever happened was when betowi was slow paying me 2 years ago... they would call with paypal card numbers and give me 500/week, always at the worst possible time and if i missed the call too bad i had to wait until the following week.

so i was walking into coors field and going through the metal detector. just after i put the phone down, it rang from betowi. so i said "i have to take this", grabbed the phone and started walking while the metal detector was going off

thought i was gonna get arrested and have to explain the slow pay situation

LOL. I was just thinking about BetOWI. They were seemingly in big trouble and have not seen anything from them in months.

[thomorino]

total nonsense

what if they had a player shove off 100k online on blackjack/slots/etc

are you honestly saying bookmaker lost money over the past 12 months?

here's the report for sportingbet (publicly traded)... sure looks like they made a lot of money even though their only business is online sportsbooks

http://www.gvc-plc.com/archive/pdf/G...ports_2016.pdf

LMAO, you can't make this stuff up. Milwaukee Mike I managed money for my family for 5 years and know how to read financial documents so I looked through the document you sent. Did you read it, the document clearly shows that these books lost money in 2016 - That's why the company's income is in parentheses for 2016, they lost money last year. I cut and pasted the relevant part.

CONSOLIDATED STATEMENT OFCOMPREHENSIVE INCOMEfor the year ended 31 December 2016Notes2016€m2015€m(LOSS) PROFIT FOR THE YEAR (138.6) 24.7OTHER COMPREHENSIVE EXPENSE) –
Total comprehensive (expense) income for the year (140.9) 24.7 (THIS NUMBER IS IN PARENTHESES BECAUSE THEY LOST MONEY)

[thomorino]

Yes, I know you are sticking to that idea. It is really irrelevant with Topbet. The damage was done before. Things only got worse. I'm rooting for them. It is the best book to bet at hands down which is the problem. I hope they make it.

Yeah, topbet has its issues, we all know, and allowing people to get the bonus to bet on -2000 favorites was stupid, but the lines at topbet are fine, they use the same lines as all other square books, and the bonus structure was cleaned up to the best of my knowledge.

[R40]

Yeah, topbet has its issues, we all know, and allowing people to get the bonus to bet on -2000 favorites was stupid, but the lines at topbet are fine, they use the same lines as all other square books, and the bonus structure was cleaned up to the best of my knowledge.

No, they aren't. You haven't paid close enough attention.

[thomorino]

No, they aren't. You haven't paid close enough attention.

Ok, then you go on topbet and find a line that is off by more than 1 point or 5 cents in baseball from the standard line, I still have a small balance there and look at the lines at least once a week. Topbet's lines are fine, the problem was the bonus structure.

[milwaukee mike]

Mike the best bonus being offered at a legit books that I've seen is the 100% cash bonus being offered at GT Bets. This books pays sameday and is very legit. The bonus is low but absolutely legit.

thanks, i liked gtbets but then they limited me to $20 bets, if i remember right their withdrawal fee was $50 so it was pointless to keep playing. they used to have some moneylines/props that were way off

[R40]

Ok, then you go on topbet and find a line that is off by more than 1 point or 5 cents in baseball from the standard line, I still have a small balance there and look at the lines at least once a week. Topbet's lines are fine, the problem was the bonus structure.

I completed rollover blind betting baseball on first fives and totals that were off 5 cents or more on every bet. I did not lose.

[thomorino]

Yeah, GTbets, there are no fees for payouts with bitcoin. Wish I could bet $20 they kicked me out completely.

[thomorino]

I completed rollover blind betting baseball on first fives and totals that were off 5 cents or more on every bet. I did not lose.

There are many recreational books that will have baseball line 5 cents off the consensus because they cater to square bettors, I don't know of any lines that are consistently off by a significant margin.

[R40]

There are many recreational books that will have baseball line 5 cents off the consensus because they cater to square bettors, I don't know of any lines that are consistently off by a significant margin.

I don't doubt that. You have no comprehension of what people do with Topbet lines.

[milwaukee mike]

There are many recreational books that will have baseball line 5 cents off the consensus because they cater to square bettors, I don't know of any lines that are consistently off by a significant margin.

keep looking

value in smaller books isn't on major sports for full game

like R40 said, bet 1H, props, soccer, boxing... whatever they don't move after the market moves

as an example some places have mayweather props at -140 that should be -350

[thomorino]

I don't doubt that. You have no comprehension of what people do with Topbet lines.

I have a very good comprehension of how topbet is run I've been there for 3 years, the problem was risk management with the bonuses not the lines. If the best example of bad lines is that baseball first 5's were off by 5 cents that's not very impressive. The juice for first 5's is so high that even if you getting 5 cents better than most books your still laying almost normal vig. Topbet main problem's was they let you bet anything with the bonus and people were betting -2000 favorites in live betting to rollover the bonus. The vast majority of the money bet at topbet is not on baseball first 5's, it was on the NFL,college football, and the NBA, I think there lines were fine in all of those sports. Topbet didn't manage their bonus rollover properly and did not have enough capital, the lines are fine, find one line on the website right now that isn't where it should be.

[R40]

... find one line on the website right now that isn't where it should be.

I did that for the last year. I found plenty and made 6K. Done for a while. You go find a few.

[milwaukee mike]

I have a very good comprehension of how topbet is run I've been there for 3 years, the problem was risk management with the bonuses not the lines. If the best example of bad lines is that baseball first 5's were off by 5 cents that's not very impressive. The juice for first 5's is so high that even if you getting 5 cents better than most books your still laying almost normal vig. Topbet main problem's was they let you bet anything with the bonus and people were betting -2000 favorites in live betting to rollover the bonus. The vast majority of the money bet at topbet is not on baseball first 5's, it was on the NFL,college football, and the NBA, I think there lines were fine in all of those sports. Topbet didn't manage their bonus rollover properly and did not have enough capital, the lines are fine, find one line on the website right now that isn't where it should be.

ok here's one... is that far enough off for you? 5 cents lololol... this is off by 380

Junior Welterweight Bout: Jose Miguel Borrego vs Juan Heraldez2017-08-26 22:00

Jose Miguel Borrego	+155	BET	vs	Juan Heraldez	-190

[thomorino]

Nice try. betonline has the line at +185 -220 so they must be off by 200 cents as well. Bovada has it at -240/+190. Boxing lines are obviously must less precise than the major 3 sports so I really don't think that's a very good example anyways.

[R40]

Got my football season offer of $5,000 for 100% cash 5x today. YES!!!

[thomorino]

Got my football season offer of $5,000 for 100% cash 5x today. YES!!!

All that a bonus of 100% cash with a 5x rollover lets you do is bet without juice. If your forced to bet only on lines of -120 to +120 you still have to win to cash out any money.Given the types of players that tend to use topbet that bonus will be profitable with most players, although obviously you'd have to have risk management.

[R40]

All that a bonus of 100% cash with a 5x rollover lets you do is bet without juice. If your forced to bet only on lines of -120 to +120 you still have to win to cash out any money.Given the types of players that tend to use topbet that bonus will be profitable with most players, although obviously you'd have to have risk management.

Give it up Morono. If I took this bonus it would be a guaranteed 5K with two $1K bonuses for not withdrawing when requested.

[milwaukee mike]

Nice try. betonline has the line at +185 -220 so they must be off by 200 cents as well. Bovada has it at -240/+190. Boxing lines are obviously must less precise than the major 3 sports so I really don't think that's a very good example anyways.

check the line again, and who betonline has favored vs who topbet has favored

[thomorino]

check the line again, and who betonline has favored vs who topbet has favored

Yeah, the line was obviously wrong at multiple books because betonline had the line I posted last night at that time, seems there was an issue with a couple books, not just topbet.

[milwaukee mike]

Yeah, the line was obviously wrong at multiple books because betonline had the line I posted last night at that time, seems there was an issue with a couple books, not just topbet.

name one other book that has a bad line on it

TOPBET IS THE ONLY ONE that is off the market

topbet still has borrego +155 when he is -225 or so everywhere else

[milwaukee mike]

betonline never had that line wrong, they had borrego -220 since the open

if you want proof just click on betonline odds here, and it will show you the history

https://www.proboxingodds.com/

Jose Miguel Borrego – BetOnline
✕

23. Aug-220



Wed 23. Aug 19:47BetOnline: -220-220
-220

[R40]

Wow. MM is a weapon of mass destruction in Topbet.

[thomorino]

Wow. MM is a weapon of mass destruction in Topbet.

Betonline had the line wrong last night, I saw it, I'm not going to debate what I saw, might have been a computer glitch.

[R40]

Betonline had the line wrong last night, I saw it, I'm not going to debate what I saw, might have been a computer glitch.

Doesn't matter. MM will go through every line they have and bet every one that is off. There are plenty of others like him and they are the reason Topbet is broke.

[thomorino]

Doesn't matter. MM will go through every line they have and bet every one that is off. There are plenty of others like him and they are the reason Topbet is broke.

R40 topbet has been run the same way for 5 years since 2012. You see the problem with this topbet's lines are so horrible argument is they aren't run any differently now then they were in 2012, so well no one is saying topbet is the best run book, to suggest that the lines are the primary reason they are having trouble is stupid, the LINES HAVE BEEN THE SAME FOR 5 YEARS.

[R40]

R40 topbet has been run the same way for 5 years since 2012. You see the problem with this topbet's lines are so horrible argument is they aren't run any differently now then they were in 2012, so well no one is saying topbet is the best run book, to suggest that the lines are the primary reason they are having trouble is stupid, the LINES HAVE BEEN THE SAME FOR 5 YEARS.

Correct.

[thomorino]

Correct.

Then your admitting that your and Milwaukee Mike's argument is garbage. The reason topbet is in trouble is because of the success recreational bettors are having, not bad lines, because the lines have been the same for 5 years, and they've only run into significant trouble this year.