Player vs Win4Real: wager dispute

[SBR Lou]

Player vs. Win4Real (SBR rating C-)
Win4Real offered a proposition wager on the total amount of free throws made by NBA basketball player, Aaron Brooks, in a single game. The player took the under on a total set of 2.5 free throws made. Aaron Brooks played in the game and did not make or attempt a free throw. The wagering ticket provided by the player shows only the stipulation that the player must play. Win4Real, a sportsbook in the Sportsbetting.com (SBR rating C-) Group, gave an illogical response to the player's complaint:

As per the update from our Grading department, the Free Throws under 2.5 indicates that Aaron Brooks should at least score below 2.5 but not zero(Under 2.5 indicates that the score must be less than 2.5 and Zero is not considered under 2.5).
You must have notice that Aaron Brooks did not score the Free Throws, which indicates that the score is Zero and hence the bet has been graded as Noaction.

SBR has inquired with management on the player's behalf. Bettors who were not paid on a bet of under on the total free throws by Aarron Brooks are invited to contact SBR.

[The General]

(huh) Ok, I'll think twice and try to understand what I am reading.

[The General]

That is ridiculous for Win4Real to even make such a statement.

Under 2.5 indicates that the score must be less than 2.5 and Zero is not considered under 2.5

Mathematics has surely changed since I was taking courses.

[BatemanPatrickl]

WTF?

[twister]

This might, quite possibly, be the greatest excuse to not pay out that I have ever seen.

[Bill Dozer]

so if a team doesn's score there is no proof that they actually showed up so it's a push.

Imagine being on the other end of that phone call? At that point the player should just start arguing that cats are the greatest animal on earth...fight fire with fire.

[durito]

That is ****ing absurd.


This group offers bets like this frequently.

They often have this:

Will player X miss a FT (no attempt, no wins) .. where it explicitly says no attempt no wins.

Yes -110
No -110

[AgainstAllOdds]

Would like to see players come forward that had the OVER 2.5 and see if they graded it as no action or a loss.

[headgames]

Whoever wrote that explanation to the player needs to be put on a gold coloured rowing boat and sent for a leisurely sail along the Somali coast. I'm struggling to remember reading anything so stupid and I'm in the UK and have read our Government's predictions for economic growth. I would have found it hard not to reply to that email from them with one word; "cuckoo".

[Stumpage]

"...Under 2.5 indicates that the score must be less than 2.5 and Zero is not considered under 2.5..."

Well, it's all over...In the decades long quest for hands down best excuse ever from a sportsbook, the quest has reached it's Zenith. It will be impossible for this Zen-Like statement to be toppled from the Throne of excuse perfection.

Seriously, I believe there to be some Buddhist-like deeper meaning in that statement...

Student: "But Sensei, when is Zero not considered less than 2 1/2?"
Sensei: "Why of course, when it is Nothing my naive little Butterfly..."

[Stumpage]

If a tree falls in the forest, and Aaron Brooks is at the free throw line.....Does he hear it?

[Mudcat]

You guys are looking at this from a layman's perspective. I studied advanced Physics at University and this actually makes sense. It has to do with matter and anti-matter and the origins of the universe and the square root of negative numbers.

Plus they'd rather just keep the money.

[BatemanPatrickl]

If a tree falls in the forest, and Aaron Brooks is at the free throw line.....Does he hear it?

I'll take YES + 220 if it's a pine tree. Any other kind of tree is a no bet for me

[SBR Lou]

A mgr has now confirmed this as a simple mistake, the wager will be re-graded and winnings credited.