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Awww, i'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.Originally posted by stevenash
Keep pumping yourself up there big guy.Comment -
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Dude, know this, some nameless, zit infested, living in mommy's basement, kid, has not, and never will get under my skin, or hurt my feelings.
And I have no reason to pump myself up their slick, but to call 5D a crap book is ignorant.
Now, I think mommy is calling you, your PBJ (no crust) sandwich and juice box is ready.
Good dayComment -
Apparently, I did get under your skin seeing as you resorted to playground, infantile name calling. Pull the dick out of your ass and STFU.Originally posted by stevenashComment -
My source itself is 5dimes.Originally posted by tb1984
I've read all there deposit and withdrawal facts. There would be a fee for me to deposit and withdraw. It would also take longer to get my money I win than it would at the books I already use. They have competitive odds yes, but nowhere near enough for me to find it worthwhile.
I don't use US dollars. They need different currency options. They have too many fees involved. I've seen this "tony" from 5 dimes, the chats he has had with customers. I think he is very un professional and is not the type of person anyone should trust with money.Comment -
I said good dayOriginally posted by Bandito97Comment -
Yet he has never stiffed anybody, ever.Originally posted by dink
And you don't trust that track record?
Go open a Bet on Sports account then.Comment -
NEVER STIFFED PEOPLE? stevenash get real, you're a shill and a stoogeComment -
Furthest thing from a shill, or a stooge.Originally posted by dink
I call them as I see them, right now, I see you as a former 5D player with an agenda.
I have been with them for 9 years, I don't get a red cent, or a free play, or nothing for me defending them.
This has been my experience in my 9 years with them.
Never have I had a problem with their CS. Maybe that's because I enter the conversation and explain with respect the nature of my problem. Funny how entering a conversation with a little courtesy gets you desired results.
When I crushed the 2011 MLB post season, and especially the WS, I requested payout and received it in 36 hours.
When I posted right here at SBR a prop bet in the All Star game 2 years ago that 5D was offering that hit, a lot of SBR posters tailed. I can post that thread if you want. Anyway, 5D accidentally graded the prop as a loser, I got on the phone, resolved by the seventh inning, and all was paid.
Like I said,in nine years, I have had nothing but success with that book, in every aspect.
Shill? Stooge? Hardly.
I've been offered pay for plays in the past, many times, each and every time I turned it down.
Something called integrity.
My life is computers and internet, I am an I/T operations analyst for an insurance compay by trade, that's how I make my living. I have helped run large scale message boards in the past, I know what is real and what is not when it comes to all things cyber. 5D is real.
Stooge? Yeah, if you say so.Comment -
Who has 5D stiffed? Proof please?Originally posted by dink
You can't provide proof, because it never happened.
There may be cases of no pay with cause, but never an out and out stiff job.
Prove it or shut your pie hole.Comment -
U can't argue with stupid nasherComment -
not even close but best optionsOriginally posted by stevenashComment -
What's a better US option? Bovada? You see the vig on some of their lines?Originally posted by teaserpleaser
Heritage? Had them, they deal dual lines, that's bull shit man.
Who is a better book? DSI is good, but very vanilla.Comment -
Yes, he said 5dimes has never stiffed people fake dink. Tony can be a total prick, but that book has solid odds and a mad amount of betting options most don't. I don't understand why you bitch about fees that all books charge. Hell, you haven't ever bet with 5Dimess what book do you bet with fake dink? By the way, that's the face of the worst acting job ever.Originally posted by dinkComment -
In the process of being stiffed right now.Originally posted by stevenashComment -
Agreed not the best in the business, but for US players yes.Originally posted by teaserpleaserComment -
Do tell illcrushemOriginally posted by illcrushemComment -
Posted a separate thread about it but basically they put off processing a payout for a week and now, 2 weeks after the pay out was supposedly "processed" they tell me when I ask why the hold up, that there is an issue with the processor and they don't know when it will be fixed and there's nothing they can do.Originally posted by InsiderHerComment -
He's only a prick when he needs to be.Originally posted by InsiderHer
We had a 45 minute talk one night about 5 years ago about posting LL WS games, and HS games.
He decided he was going to severely cut back, he said it bothered his conscious about betting on 12 year old.
He was intelligent, amusing, insightful etc during that whole conversation. But the ghost poster thinks I am a shill for defending him.
Sure he can be a prick, I have seen him in action, it's a thing of beauty.Comment -
I'll bet whatever you want, name the method P2P, whatever, I'll bet what they owe you you will be paid.Originally posted by illcrushem
You on?Comment -
That's certainly not the norm, and anytime getting paid is delayed sucks. Can you change the method? Anyway, don't worry you will get paid illcrushem.Originally posted by illcrushemComment -
Yeah I've already asked about that, they are telling me it can't be changed, which is strange because it hasn't been sent and they know it, but they supposedly can't do anythingOriginally posted by InsiderHerComment -
No need to bet anything, just trying to find out wtf is going on over there.Originally posted by stevenashComment -
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Not just 5D, there have been processor errors at other books as well.
Fukking country should just legalize this already, guys who don't wager are not going to start wagering if they make it legal, if that's what the feds are worried about.
I am not into dope, but if the feds make heroin legal next week, and tax it, I still would not try it.
Just legalize sports gambling, and tax it, it will solve a lot of problems, I/We will continue to bet regardless.Comment -
Originally posted by stevenash
Hear something new nearly every day on sbr. Bet on whether a book will pay or not. Classic.
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You like that one, huh?Originally posted by Slimpickens Hear something new nearly every day on sbr. Bet on whether a book will pay or not. Classic.Comment -
Yes. Im on your side. Just found it hilarious. LOL.Originally posted by stevenashComment -
OP, glad you finally opened your eyes and realized what a terrible book 5Dimes is.
5Dimes will do the following:
1. offer bad lines and freeroll you on those bad lines.
2. emotionally frustrate you in the hopes that you will continue betting thus giving them more shots at your money
3. tony (the manager) will post chat logs of chats he has had with emotionally upset bettors.
4. if you survive this gauntlet they do payout--albeit with technical snafus often.Comment -
It really is funny. Lol. Good griefOriginally posted by SlimpickensComment -
stevenash, your post count earns you nothing as far as respect goes, lets get that out of the way first and foremost.
To Say Tony never stole anyones money is not only a lie but a disgusting one at that. Or perhaps you are just not very smart and do not know everything.
And to make matters worse this lowlife tony threatened the guy, He is a lowlife and anyone who condones his behavior is a lowlife
5Dimes vs. Dan777 (Dan bouton)
A played named Dan claims to have opened an account at 5Dimes around October 3, 2012. He made three deposits over a short period of time totaling $885. On October 9, 2012 he staked $0.57 on a progressive pleaser that had an incorrect pay table. Winning 5 out of 6 paid 7000-to-1 instead of the 70-to-1 it was intended to pay. This was one of dozens of pleaser bets he placed where option 5 out of 6 had an incorrect payout. It was however the only of these bets which he won.
Dan claims to be new to online sports betting. Suspecting this pay table was likely an error he began reading forums about how sites handle bad lines. Feeling his bet would likely be void if it was a mistake, he called 5Dimes to inquire about the pay table. It is important to note he did this while the bet was still pending and specifically stated he thought their pay table was wrong. He was told by a 5Dimes rep the pay table was correct. Still skeptical he asked to speak to a manager. A second person, this one Dan believed was a manager, also claimed the pay table was correct. This bet won and Dan was paid $3990 in winnings instead of $39.90 he should have been paid.
Dan continued to wager at 5Dimes running well and cashed out $10,840 while still holding an account balance. An important fact: he claims ALL of his future wagers were on legit lines. He received no other winnings from incorrect odds. Dan had an amazing run winning over $25,000 legitimately during Week 11 of the 2012 NFL season. This was several hundred legit bets and more than a month after he was overpaid on his winning pleaser bet. At this point his account balance was $32,563.09. The excitement of his biggest winning week was ended when he found his 5Dimes account locked right after this win.
Dan then spoke to 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams for the first time. The chat was not friendly as you can see from the log below.
In the log above you can see 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams takes the position that he is not only confiscating the $32,563.09 but he is voiding all of Dan’s action period. He demands Dan returns the difference of $885 in deposits and $10,840 in payouts. He threatens collection.
Tony later alludes there will be no arbitration offered and that rulings (such as SBR) do not matter to him. He continues to make threats of collection.
Even after 5Dimes own rules were pointed out, Tony still makes threat of collection telling a player he should be packing his bags (which can easily be interpreted as the threat of physical harm).
5Dimes Rules Cover How To Handle This Dispute
Remember: Dan attempted to report this error and was told it was correct. He asked for a manager and was told again that it was correct. He then wagered for more than a month making hundreds of wagers. It was only after a legitimate lucky weekend that this was detected and his account was closed. 5Dimes rules actually cover in detail how this dispute should be handled. Below are screen shots from their rules page.
Relevant 5Dimes Rule #1
Relevant 5Dimes Rule #2
Relevant 5Dimes Rule #3
If the facts are exactly as stated: the correct way to handle this is to deduct the $3950 over-payment from the $32,563. This means Dan is owed $28,613. If 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams disagrees then in this case the player is owed a mutually agreed upon fair arbitration over the disputed balance. Unfortunately as 5Dimes is located in Costa Rica where regulation is non-existence and recourse next to nil there is little that can be done in this matter. In other words, Tony Williams holds all the cardsComment -
Told ya, 5dimes should be boycotted.Comment -
Originally posted by stevenash
What you said is not completely true: 5Dimes MIGHT BE DEALING DUAL LINES. I have requested SBR to respond to this 2 weeks ago, and I have heard nothing back from anyone:
http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...dial-line.html (bad typo here of course)
I am closing my account at 5Dimes and sticking to Vegas books. I don't like a lot of the lines here, but I want to cash my ticket right away with a good line. If I am getting screwed now by a dual line, I might get screwed by something else later on. I am not going to take that chance of betting 3-5 figures and winning there - it is likely to not end well at some point.Comment -
This coming from someone who thinks Ladbrokes is a good book.Originally posted by dink
You're one of the biggest squares on these forums, and that's saying a lot considering the field. You have a huge L carved in your forehead. I'd lay 1/5 for 10k that you haven't had a single year (fiscal or calender) that you've turned a profit gambling. Your input regarding bookmakers or gambling in general is about as useful as any Kardashian commenting on nuclear astrophysics.Comment -
mehComment -
[QUOTE=hugh_jogg;19851526]Over a small issue they could have taken the high road and done the right thing.....now Ive gone ahead and closed the account and hope they lose more business. Sometimes these books have to realize we are a customer and we have options.......Hope nothing but bad luck for Tony and his company.......Been with Heritage a long time and never felt the need to post one negative thing about them.....been with Tony's 5dimes for 60 days and decided to close my account. A refection of their business practice
Just a FYI for anyone looking to open account with 5dimes.......my vote is a HUGE NO![/ QUOTE]
He needs your business like he needs an ass hole in his elbow.Comment
