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  • Bandito97
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-12-13
    • 149

    #36
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    Last edited by Bandito97; 10-09-13, 05:26 PM.
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    • Bandito97
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-12-13
      • 149

      #37
      Originally posted by stevenash
      So what?

      He could have the type of job where he can post a couple a times a day (I do) and I have a real good job.
      He could have an hour or so of down time where he can post after work (I do) and I have a real good life.

      So what if he averages nine posts a day, you can post nine times in 20 minutes, and have a great life.
      Awww, i'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

      Keep pumping yourself up there big guy.
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65289

        #38
        ^
        Dude, know this, some nameless, zit infested, living in mommy's basement, kid, has not, and never will get under my skin, or hurt my feelings.

        And I have no reason to pump myself up their slick, but to call 5D a crap book is ignorant.

        Now, I think mommy is calling you, your PBJ (no crust) sandwich and juice box is ready.

        Good day
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        • Bandito97
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-12-13
          • 149

          #39
          Originally posted by stevenash
          ^
          Dude, know this, some nameless, zit infested, living in mommy's basement, kid, has not, and never will get under my skin, or hurt my feelings.

          And I have no reason to pump myself up their slick
          Apparently, I did get under your skin seeing as you resorted to playground, infantile name calling. Pull the dick out of your ass and STFU.
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          • dink
            Restricted User
            • 09-11-13
            • 665

            #40
            Originally posted by tb1984
            Based on what? Posters' complains at gambling forums? Any source?
            My source itself is 5dimes.

            I've read all there deposit and withdrawal facts. There would be a fee for me to deposit and withdraw. It would also take longer to get my money I win than it would at the books I already use. They have competitive odds yes, but nowhere near enough for me to find it worthwhile.
            I don't use US dollars. They need different currency options. They have too many fees involved. I've seen this "tony" from 5 dimes, the chats he has had with customers. I think he is very un professional and is not the type of person anyone should trust with money.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65289

              #41
              Originally posted by Bandito97
              Apparently, I did get under your skin seeing as you resorted to playground, infantile name calling. Pull the dick out of your ass and STFU.
              I said good day
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65289

                #42
                Originally posted by dink
                I think he is very un professional and is not the type of person anyone should trust with money.
                Yet he has never stiffed anybody, ever.

                And you don't trust that track record?
                Go open a Bet on Sports account then.
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                • dink
                  Restricted User
                  • 09-11-13
                  • 665

                  #43
                  NEVER STIFFED PEOPLE? stevenash get real, you're a shill and a stooge
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65289

                    #44
                    Originally posted by dink
                    NEVER STIFFED PEOPLE? stevenash get real, you're a shill and a stooge
                    Furthest thing from a shill, or a stooge.
                    I call them as I see them, right now, I see you as a former 5D player with an agenda.

                    I have been with them for 9 years, I don't get a red cent, or a free play, or nothing for me defending them.

                    This has been my experience in my 9 years with them.
                    Never have I had a problem with their CS. Maybe that's because I enter the conversation and explain with respect the nature of my problem. Funny how entering a conversation with a little courtesy gets you desired results.

                    When I crushed the 2011 MLB post season, and especially the WS, I requested payout and received it in 36 hours.

                    When I posted right here at SBR a prop bet in the All Star game 2 years ago that 5D was offering that hit, a lot of SBR posters tailed. I can post that thread if you want. Anyway, 5D accidentally graded the prop as a loser, I got on the phone, resolved by the seventh inning, and all was paid.

                    Like I said,in nine years, I have had nothing but success with that book, in every aspect.

                    Shill? Stooge? Hardly.
                    I've been offered pay for plays in the past, many times, each and every time I turned it down.
                    Something called integrity.

                    My life is computers and internet, I am an I/T operations analyst for an insurance compay by trade, that's how I make my living. I have helped run large scale message boards in the past, I know what is real and what is not when it comes to all things cyber. 5D is real.

                    Stooge? Yeah, if you say so.
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65289

                      #45
                      Originally posted by dink
                      NEVER STIFFED PEOPLE?
                      Who has 5D stiffed? Proof please?
                      You can't provide proof, because it never happened.
                      There may be cases of no pay with cause, but never an out and out stiff job.
                      Prove it or shut your pie hole.
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 51866

                        #46
                        U can't argue with stupid nasher
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                        • teaserpleaser
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-14-08
                          • 26016

                          #47
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          Best book in the business.
                          I have always treated Tony with respect, he always gave me respect back.

                          Bet you there is a back story to the OP's story
                          not even close but best options
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65289

                            #48
                            Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                            not even close but best options
                            What's a better US option? Bovada? You see the vig on some of their lines?
                            Heritage? Had them, they deal dual lines, that's bull shit man.
                            Who is a better book? DSI is good, but very vanilla.
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                            • InsiderHer
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-18-12
                              • 331

                              #49
                              Originally posted by dink
                              NEVER STIFFED PEOPLE? stevenash get real, you're a shill and a stooge
                              Yes, he said 5dimes has never stiffed people fake dink. Tony can be a total prick, but that book has solid odds and a mad amount of betting options most don't. I don't understand why you bitch about fees that all books charge. Hell, you haven't ever bet with 5Dimess what book do you bet with fake dink? By the way, that's the face of the worst acting job ever.
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                              • illcrushem
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-20-10
                                • 291

                                #50
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                Who has 5D stiffed? Proof please?
                                You can't provide proof, because it never happened.
                                There may be cases of no pay with cause, but never an out and out stiff job.
                                Prove it or shut your pie hole.
                                In the process of being stiffed right now.
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                                • InsiderHer
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-18-12
                                  • 331

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                  not even close but best options
                                  Agreed not the best in the business, but for US players yes.
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                                  • InsiderHer
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-18-12
                                    • 331

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by illcrushem
                                    In the process of being stiffed right now.
                                    Do tell illcrushem
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                                    • illcrushem
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 01-20-10
                                      • 291

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by InsiderHer
                                      Do tell illcrushem
                                      Posted a separate thread about it but basically they put off processing a payout for a week and now, 2 weeks after the pay out was supposedly "processed" they tell me when I ask why the hold up, that there is an issue with the processor and they don't know when it will be fixed and there's nothing they can do.
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65289

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by InsiderHer
                                        Yes, he said 5dimes has never stiffed people fake dink. Tony can be a total prick, but that book has solid odds and a mad amount of betting options most don't. I don't understand why you bitch about fees that all books charge. Hell, you haven't ever bet with 5Dimess what book do you bet with fake dink? By the way, that's the face of the worst acting job ever.
                                        He's only a prick when he needs to be.

                                        We had a 45 minute talk one night about 5 years ago about posting LL WS games, and HS games.
                                        He decided he was going to severely cut back, he said it bothered his conscious about betting on 12 year old.
                                        He was intelligent, amusing, insightful etc during that whole conversation. But the ghost poster thinks I am a shill for defending him.

                                        Sure he can be a prick, I have seen him in action, it's a thing of beauty.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65289

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by illcrushem
                                          Posted a separate thread about it but basically they put off processing a payout for a week and now, 2 weeks after the pay out was supposedly "processed" they tell me when I ask why the hold up, that there is an issue with the processor and they don't know when it will be fixed and there's nothing they can do.
                                          I'll bet whatever you want, name the method P2P, whatever, I'll bet what they owe you you will be paid.

                                          You on?
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                                          • InsiderHer
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 12-18-12
                                            • 331

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by illcrushem
                                            Posted a separate thread about it but basically they put off processing a payout for a week and now, 2 weeks after the pay out was supposedly "processed" they tell me when I ask why the hold up, that there is an issue with the processor and they don't know when it will be fixed and there's nothing they can do.
                                            That's certainly not the norm, and anytime getting paid is delayed sucks. Can you change the method? Anyway, don't worry you will get paid illcrushem.
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                                            • illcrushem
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-20-10
                                              • 291

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by InsiderHer
                                              That's certainly not the norm, and anytime getting paid is delayed sucks. Can you change the method? Anyway, don't worry you will get paid illcrushem. Sorry for the delay.
                                              Yeah I've already asked about that, they are telling me it can't be changed, which is strange because it hasn't been sent and they know it, but they supposedly can't do anything
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                                              • illcrushem
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 01-20-10
                                                • 291

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                I'll bet whatever you want, name the method P2P, whatever, I'll bet what they owe you you will be paid.

                                                You on?
                                                No need to bet anything, just trying to find out wtf is going on over there.
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65289

                                                  #59
                                                  ^
                                                  Not just 5D, there have been processor errors at other books as well.
                                                  Fukking country should just legalize this already, guys who don't wager are not going to start wagering if they make it legal, if that's what the feds are worried about.

                                                  I am not into dope, but if the feds make heroin legal next week, and tax it, I still would not try it.

                                                  Just legalize sports gambling, and tax it, it will solve a lot of problems, I/We will continue to bet regardless.
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                                                  • Slimpickens
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-28-12
                                                    • 2030

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                    I'll bet whatever you want, name the method P2P, whatever, I'll bet what they owe you you will be paid.

                                                    You on?
                                                    Hear something new nearly every day on sbr. Bet on whether a book will pay or not. Classic.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65289

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                      Hear something new nearly every day on sbr. Bet on whether a book will pay or not. Classic.
                                                      You like that one, huh?
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                                                      • Slimpickens
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-28-12
                                                        • 2030

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        You like that one, huh?
                                                        Yes. Im on your side. Just found it hilarious. LOL.
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                                                        • boondoggle
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-29-10
                                                          • 3014

                                                          #63
                                                          OP, glad you finally opened your eyes and realized what a terrible book 5Dimes is.

                                                          5Dimes will do the following:

                                                          1. offer bad lines and freeroll you on those bad lines.
                                                          2. emotionally frustrate you in the hopes that you will continue betting thus giving them more shots at your money
                                                          3. tony (the manager) will post chat logs of chats he has had with emotionally upset bettors.
                                                          4. if you survive this gauntlet they do payout--albeit with technical snafus often.
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                                                          • 5mike5
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-21-11
                                                            • 51866

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                            Yes. Im on your side. Just found it hilarious. LOL.
                                                            It really is funny. Lol. Good grief
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                                                            • mafioso
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 07-14-11
                                                              • 76

                                                              #65
                                                              stevenash, your post count earns you nothing as far as respect goes, lets get that out of the way first and foremost.
                                                              To Say Tony never stole anyones money is not only a lie but a disgusting one at that. Or perhaps you are just not very smart and do not know everything.


                                                              And to make matters worse this lowlife tony threatened the guy, He is a lowlife and anyone who condones his behavior is a lowlife

                                                              5Dimes vs. Dan777 (Dan bouton)

                                                              A played named Dan claims to have opened an account at 5Dimes around October 3, 2012. He made three deposits over a short period of time totaling $885. On October 9, 2012 he staked $0.57 on a progressive pleaser that had an incorrect pay table. Winning 5 out of 6 paid 7000-to-1 instead of the 70-to-1 it was intended to pay. This was one of dozens of pleaser bets he placed where option 5 out of 6 had an incorrect payout. It was however the only of these bets which he won.
                                                              Dan claims to be new to online sports betting. Suspecting this pay table was likely an error he began reading forums about how sites handle bad lines. Feeling his bet would likely be void if it was a mistake, he called 5Dimes to inquire about the pay table. It is important to note he did this while the bet was still pending and specifically stated he thought their pay table was wrong. He was told by a 5Dimes rep the pay table was correct. Still skeptical he asked to speak to a manager. A second person, this one Dan believed was a manager, also claimed the pay table was correct. This bet won and Dan was paid $3990 in winnings instead of $39.90 he should have been paid.
                                                              Dan continued to wager at 5Dimes running well and cashed out $10,840 while still holding an account balance. An important fact: he claims ALL of his future wagers were on legit lines. He received no other winnings from incorrect odds. Dan had an amazing run winning over $25,000 legitimately during Week 11 of the 2012 NFL season. This was several hundred legit bets and more than a month after he was overpaid on his winning pleaser bet. At this point his account balance was $32,563.09. The excitement of his biggest winning week was ended when he found his 5Dimes account locked right after this win.
                                                              Dan then spoke to 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams for the first time. The chat was not friendly as you can see from the log below.

                                                              In the log above you can see 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams takes the position that he is not only confiscating the $32,563.09 but he is voiding all of Dan’s action period. He demands Dan returns the difference of $885 in deposits and $10,840 in payouts. He threatens collection.
                                                              Tony later alludes there will be no arbitration offered and that rulings (such as SBR) do not matter to him. He continues to make threats of collection.

                                                              Even after 5Dimes own rules were pointed out, Tony still makes threat of collection telling a player he should be packing his bags (which can easily be interpreted as the threat of physical harm).

                                                              5Dimes Rules Cover How To Handle This Dispute

                                                              Remember: Dan attempted to report this error and was told it was correct. He asked for a manager and was told again that it was correct. He then wagered for more than a month making hundreds of wagers. It was only after a legitimate lucky weekend that this was detected and his account was closed. 5Dimes rules actually cover in detail how this dispute should be handled. Below are screen shots from their rules page.
                                                              Relevant 5Dimes Rule #1

                                                              Relevant 5Dimes Rule #2

                                                              Relevant 5Dimes Rule #3

                                                              If the facts are exactly as stated: the correct way to handle this is to deduct the $3950 over-payment from the $32,563. This means Dan is owed $28,613. If 5Dimes General Manager Tony Williams disagrees then in this case the player is owed a mutually agreed upon fair arbitration over the disputed balance. Unfortunately as 5Dimes is located in Costa Rica where regulation is non-existence and recourse next to nil there is little that can be done in this matter. In other words, Tony Williams holds all the cards
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                                                              • dink
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 09-11-13
                                                                • 665

                                                                #66
                                                                Told ya, 5dimes should be boycotted.
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                                                                • sbrhedge
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-18-11
                                                                  • 1354

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  So what?

                                                                  Find me one documented case of 5D stiffing somebody for no good reason. Sorry, I heard from a friend who heard from a friend that they didn't pay his uncle does not count.

                                                                  Does the payment clear? Always.

                                                                  Are the betting lines fair? Yes. Does 5D serve dual lines? No. Some of the other books mentioned in this thread do.


                                                                  Here's the reason why the OP started this thread, he more than likely had a problem with his account or a wager, went into the conversation with an over the top attitude, said some 'magic' choice words to the wrong people, and got shit back for being a dick.

                                                                  There is nothing wrong with 5D, the book is rated A+ by at least six different sources.

                                                                  OP clearly has an agenda.

                                                                  You don't like Tony, fine, move on to another book, but to say the book is bad, thieves, sucks, or whatever, is not only wrong, but ignorant.

                                                                  What you said is not completely true: 5Dimes MIGHT BE DEALING DUAL LINES. I have requested SBR to respond to this 2 weeks ago, and I have heard nothing back from anyone:

                                                                  http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...dial-line.html (bad typo here of course)


                                                                  I am closing my account at 5Dimes and sticking to Vegas books. I don't like a lot of the lines here, but I want to cash my ticket right away with a good line. If I am getting screwed now by a dual line, I might get screwed by something else later on. I am not going to take that chance of betting 3-5 figures and winning there - it is likely to not end well at some point.
                                                                  Last edited by sbrhedge; 10-16-13, 12:23 PM.
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                                                                  • indio
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-03-11
                                                                    • 751

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by dink
                                                                    I've never had an account with them and never will, no way
                                                                    This coming from someone who thinks Ladbrokes is a good book.

                                                                    You're one of the biggest squares on these forums, and that's saying a lot considering the field. You have a huge L carved in your forehead. I'd lay 1/5 for 10k that you haven't had a single year (fiscal or calender) that you've turned a profit gambling. Your input regarding bookmakers or gambling in general is about as useful as any Kardashian commenting on nuclear astrophysics.
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                                                                    • illcrushem
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-20-10
                                                                      • 291

                                                                      #69
                                                                      meh
                                                                      Last edited by illcrushem; 10-18-13, 06:25 PM.
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                                                                      • ADR51
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 05-15-11
                                                                        • 428

                                                                        #70
                                                                        [QUOTE=hugh_jogg;19851526]Over a small issue they could have taken the high road and done the right thing.....now Ive gone ahead and closed the account and hope they lose more business. Sometimes these books have to realize we are a customer and we have options.......Hope nothing but bad luck for Tony and his company.......Been with Heritage a long time and never felt the need to post one negative thing about them.....been with Tony's 5dimes for 60 days and decided to close my account. A refection of their business practice

                                                                        Just a FYI for anyone looking to open account with 5dimes.......my vote is a HUGE NO![/ QUOTE]

                                                                        He needs your business like he needs an ass hole in his elbow.
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