Has everyone given up hope on a Betislands bailout?

[BranchDavidian]

Ok I can see that....he did say after the fact!!!

I know everybody keeps calling Tony all kinds of names. I have had to deal with him a few times, and he has treated me perfectly fine. I have also seen some of these chat sessions that get posted, and quite often, it is the poster that starts out as an ass. If Tony thinks he is dealing with an abuser of some sort, he gets right to the point -- and does go overboard for a customer relations person. But, I think if you don't mess with Tony, Tony won't mess with you ( although I will admit that Tony can be wrong and go off believing he is in the right when he may not be ).

[Darkside Magick]

Never had a problem with tony....always got my money fast!

[HeeeHAWWWW]

If Tony didn't exist, you'd have to invent him.

[sneak-a-peak]

"Bailout???! are you kiddin me?! Bailout??!!!!"

[gdelongi]

bailout for all but hedgehog. He was too supportive of BI, and demeaned and berrated those who spoke against. As did Rob

Shills

[eastern2]

bailout for all but hedgehog. He was too supportive of BI, and demeaned and berrated those who spoke against. As did Rob

Shills

You're an idiot

[Bill Dozer]

It seems the next update on this possibility wont be until 2nd week of January. The book's mgrs wll be getting together then for a meeting.

[BranchDavidian]

It seems the next update on this possibility wont be until 2nd week of January. The book's mgrs wll be getting together then for a meeting.

Thanks for the update, Bill.

[JasonDC]

It seems the next update on this possibility wont be until 2nd week of January. The book's mgrs wll be getting together then for a meeting.

More bad news.

[eastern2]

Not happening fellas move along

[Dark Horse]

More bad news.

Why is that bad news? As long as they're talking, and as long as this topic is a sticky on the top of the page, there is still hope.

[JasonDC]

Not happening fellas move along

How do you know? If there is no chance then why does Bill Dozer even mention meetings taking place in January? I dont like my chances but im not moving along until i hear a definitive answer..I have nothing to move along to because im not depositing offshore anymore after what happened so there is no chance to recover what i lost thru some lucky winning streak..im just going to keep asking and keep discussing betislands until we hear something.

[JasonDC]

Why is that bad news? As long as they're talking, and as long as this topic is a sticky on the top of the page, there is still hope.

I just think the longer it goes the less likely the chances of getting a bailout.

[Dark Horse]

Not necessarily. It's hard to make sense of it all at this point, but it seems that around the time of the earlier talks the book considering the bailout was blindsided by the EZ scam 'bailout' from the BI/EZ party.

[eastern2]

How do you know? If there is no chance then why does Bill Dozer even mention meetings taking place in January? I dont like my chances but im not moving along until i hear a definitive answer..I have nothing to move along to because im not depositing offshore anymore after what happened so there is no chance to recover what i lost thru some lucky winning streak..im just going to keep asking and keep discussing betislands until we hear something.

I don't know - it just seems like if there was going to be something, it would have happened... Longer it drags out the less the venom towards sbr then they'll state there is no bailout - I'm just extremely skeptical anything will happen at this point

[BranchDavidian]

It seems the next update on this possibility wont be until 2nd week of January. The book's mgrs wll be getting together then for a meeting.

Bill, I just heard a rumor that you guys have been asking for a commission on losses from the books that you are contacting. I would hope that this is not true.

[JasonDC]

I don't know - it just seems like if there was going to be something, it would have happened... Longer it drags out the less the venom towards sbr then they'll state there is no bailout - I'm just extremely skeptical anything will happen at this point

I share in your skepticism, but you will have to forgive me if i dont just move along because of the way something seems. I had over 6k in my account so if it's ok i will wait until i hear what happens in these January meetings before i consider moving along.

[TryingMyBest]

Bill, I just heard a rumor that you guys have been asking for a commission on losses from the books that you are contacting. I would hope that this is not true.

You aren't the only one who heard this. I would have thought SBR would try to sweeten the deal with at minimum free advertising for the foreseeable future. Silly me...

[HedgeHog]

bailout for all but hedgehog. He was too supportive of BI, and demeaned and berrated those who spoke against. As did Rob

Shills

Go fukk yourself, Casper

[eastern2]

I share in your skepticism, but you will have to forgive me if i dont just move along because of the way something seems. I had over 6k in my account so if it's ok i will wait until i hear what happens in these January meetings before i consider moving along.

I wouldn't if I were you either

[Bill Dozer]

We are only updating with what we are told. We even told Robbie who is putting up the made up stories that if he wanted to do a real bailout instead of spam the list and try to make SBR look bad with it, we would document it heavily and his brand would get valuable recognition once the players got payouts as a result.

SBR can't incentivize an unproven book to do it. Otherwise we end up back in this situation again if they fail and new players are there because they were crowned a hero.

EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.

Jason is right in that the sooner the better.

[JasonDC]

We are only updating with what we are told. We even told Robbie who is putting up the made up stories that if he wanted to do a real bailout instead of spam the list and try to make SBR look bad with it, we would document it heavily and his brand would get valuable recognition once the players got payouts as a result.

SBR can't incentivize an unproven book to do it. Otherwise we end up back in this situation again if they fail and new players are there because they were crowned a hero.

EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.

Jason is right in that the sooner the better.

From what Bill is saying we are probably screwed..If EZstreet wont share the balance and activity sheet, which they wont, then another book cant make us a better offer because they lack the players account information..so it sounds to me that any possible bailout will only come if ezstreet decided to share information..did anyone interpret what Bill said differently than me?

[jcygts6]

We need to get this done asap.. Stealing money is just wrong

[BranchDavidian]

From what Bill is saying we are probably screwed..If EZstreet wont share the balance and activity sheet, which they wont, then another book cant make us a better offer because they lack the players account information..so it sounds to me that any possible bailout will only come if ezstreet decided to share information..did anyone interpret what Bill said differently than me?

Whoa there, I am missing something here. How is it that EZ has BI info that nobody else has? The player list and balances have been posted and pretty much confirmed by posters.

[Dark Horse]

EZ Street's announcement that there would be a bailout only to offer a deposit bonus with rollover that should make them money, has added a speedbump in the process. Seeing how they already had the players on their system, if they were considering paying at least some everyone has to wait and see. Also, they won't share the balance and activity list so another book can offer something better where the player actually gains.

Complete scam by BI and EZ. They don't even want to assist in a bailout by a reputable book.

[Dwayne74]

The notion that other books cannot facilitate a bi bailout bc ez street has all the player info and balances is 100% false. The info is all over the place. It has been posted on another forum and the balances have been confirmed as accurate by dozens of players.

[JasonDC]

Complete scam by BI and EZ. They don't even want to assist in a bailout by a reputable book.

Does this surprise you? i heard that when beted closed down they could have got a bailout for their players but they didnt want to give up their database..it looks like nobody cares about doing what is best for the industry. If i dont get any bailout and end up losing my money im going to make some calls and contact some people to see what i can do to help screw this industry.

[HedgeHog]

The notion that other books cannot facilitate a bi bailout bc ez street has all the player info and balances is 100% false. The info is all over the place. It has been posted on another forum and the balances have been confirmed as accurate by dozens of players.

Which forums? I'd like to see if I can find my balance there.

[BranchDavidian]

Which forums? I'd like to see if I can find my balance there.

SBR_John - Admin - Staff & Mods any comment ? Your BI Sheet

Post #55. The thread is in Players Talk.

[pensfan1919]

That list isn't complete.

My account info isn't on there.

I am sure others are missing as well.

[BranchDavidian]

That list isn't complete.

My account info isn't on there.

I am sure others are missing as well.

This list may be only the accounts that SBR was getting a commission on.

[TheGambler]

I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.

[nosniboR11]

bill sbr does not need any help from any posters to look bad on this situation

SBR looks real bad

[BetterBizness]

I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.

I said this 20 posts ago... but I said take a Euro book like INtertops that allows US players and give .50 on the dollar... spread it out over 5 years (10 if you're a book been around since the beginning of time like them -1996- ) and you have like a 75,000 / year marketing campaign per year.. big deal...

[slash]

The major books already got their advertising for free. The best that could happen for them was that BI closed.

I know this may sound stupid but $1.5M could be shared across 4 major books. Allow the four books to review the list and basically start taking turns picking the accounts they would like to take on. At some point, all four will get some of the sharp action but for the most part, their risk should be minimized. Let's be real, the majority of us will continue to lose money but as Jason has pointed out, they will never see another penny from me until this is resolved. It would be my assumption that these four books would automatically rise to the top of the industry and for the small investment of $375K, they would get a lot of PR.