Originally posted by Bumble29
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I wrote about the corrupted football leagues. Ukraine in the first ten even isn't present. But that that betfair made a bets on these matches by me is sure. If they wouldn't make it they returned money and all. Not to be wanted to give them the money. I therefore write that all knew what they are geeks. At them even it is grabbed on Malta. I a lot of letters wrote, but the answer didn't receive.Comment -
Wrote me the letter from department of investigations of the betfair company. Read if it is interesting.
As you can see do everything possible that I died or went mad. But it they not to turn out.
Dear Mr ......,
We are writing to you from the Integrity Team at Betfair regarding your account username: stepanko86.
Further to your recent correspondence please be aware that the investigation in to the betting on your account, specifically bets placed on Arsenal Bila Tserkva v Krymteplytsia M 03.11.12, Arsenal Bila Tserkva v Oleksandria 17.11.12 and Olimpik Donetsk v Arsenal Bila Tserkva 23.11.12, remains on-going. Whilst we appreciate this may be frustrating please be aware that this action has been taken in-line with the Terms and Conditions that govern your use of the Betfair website.
We are not able to give a definitive time-frame as to when our investigations maybe concluded however I can reassure you that we are doing all we can to bring this matter to a conclusion as soon as is possible. We shall contact you again within one month (even if at that stage we have no further update) or when our investigation is complete, whichever is sooner.
Regards
Betfair Integrity Team.
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unfortunately I don't think posting here will help you too much but I do wish you luck with your caseComment -
Thanks. It would be good if Justin who to me promised to place information made it instead of was silent and was afraid to write the truth about the betfair company as he writes about other companies which also block accounts and don't give money. Betfair than not better and even worse because they speak that they the exchange of sports bets.Originally posted by allin1Comment -
The truth? The truth is your a scamming piece of shit.Comment -
You as well as those who you sent part of shit to write here. It is the betfair company.Originally posted by TennisProFranceComment -
Why would anyone help an asshole who claims they are "too afraid to write the truth about Betfair"?Originally posted by stepanko86
Plus, Justin has argued on these forums for Betfair's rating to be lowered. Idiot..Comment -
You have dodged the question - no where have you provided the odds that you backed each of the options in question. It will be very easy to see when you post that you offered $1.65 on something that was paying $1.30 or the like that you had inside information. Otherwise it makes no sense. Your whole game was to clean up arbers and value bettors on this rigged league. If you are indeed innocent of this Justin7 will clear you. I can't see it happening.Originally posted by stepanko86Comment -
I don't understand that you want. I already wrote everything as I staked and why I made a bets large sums. I translate and I can't understand that you want. I made a bets on that that was on betfair. If very much you interests translate into Russian. I can't understand your question.Originally posted by Duff85Comment -
You are able to read? I wrote that applied. I was told by Justin that will help. I waited but video in news I about the problem didn't see. Then he wrote:Originally posted by Optional
We discussed your dispute on our weekly news video.
I would give them several weeks to investigate... Perhaps even a month.
In the mean time, I would keep writing Malta LGA every week -- they will eventually respond.
Justin
On this site write about that that bet-at home blocked accounts and don't do payment of 1450 Euros, and to which betfair didn't pay me 62611 USD, don't write anything. Already a month ago it happened. How it is called? I that in your opinion in vain would write to you? Therefore words the idiot and the asshole it about you.Comment -
If you from the betfair company, send me screens of that that I mde a bets.Originally posted by Duff85
I don't understand your question instead of I leave from it.Comment -
Originally posted by stepanko86I think you should not write like this if you really want them to help you.Originally posted by stepanko86
Be patient. Dont be nervous posting here.Comment -
I will try. But it is offensive when you write many letters. Then you look in news and there writes http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betathome/news/. And about my problem anybody at all doesn't mention though the sum not €1,450 there are far. If to me betfair I blocked €1,450 or $1,450 even to anybody and didn't speak.Originally posted by nasdaqComment -
Yeah, Justin rates betfair quite low, compared to what people think of them. He has seen a lot of dubious disputes against them.Originally posted by stepanko86Comment -
I don't know that Justin saw. But I saw on November 23 the real face of the so-called company betfair and understood that it is swindlers. I wrote to the betfair company about that that they have no proofs against me and they won't be. They bought all. I feel even Justin. But British to them not to buy the Supreme Court. And I think that if they to risk not to give money, I them will punish and those who writes me mucks me will thank because then betfair will be are afraid to work as swindlers.Originally posted by allin1Comment -
Betfair are not regulated in the UK any longer for non-British players, so your case would be with Maltese courts rather than British.Comment -
I write on complaints@lga.org.mt, but they don't respond to my letters. Probably not such they are independent as speak. In January there will arrive my lawyer and I will decide to submit the claim to what court. Betfair will rescue only return to me my money. As I already spoke in them there are no proofs and they perfectly know it. More than a month passed as they blocked the account.Originally posted by SantoComment -
C rating for Betfair but B rating for BetIslands....only at SBROriginally posted by Justin7Comment -
Why you wrote it to me?Originally posted by bettilimbroke999Comment -
I wasnt writing to you I was replying to Justin7 as you can see the quote in my postOriginally posted by stepanko86
I do not know the circumstances of your situation and Im not going to pretend I careComment -
I got it. And me it what for?Originally posted by bettilimbroke999Comment -
Stepanko that fukking Google translator or whatever you're using got to go man....I do understand you, because I also speak Russian, but not everything that you're trying to say in Russian comes out right through that translator in English.
If you don't understand something, send me a private message and I'll try to explain it to you.Comment -
to me is sky clear...Guy from eastern europe(Ukraina) opens new account, and bets high sum of money on same team in some 'low level' footie..
Probably he has connections with some 'betting mafia'. Eastern europe footie, nuff said.Comment -
"I won from 6000 US dollars to 112851 dollars in 35 days"
So you won 18x your initial deposit in little over a month, on at least 3 games involving the same Ukranian Division 2 team (Arsenal Bila as pointed out in the letter you got from betfair) and you still expect us to believe that it was just luck or good handicapping on your part right ?
The fact that the odds on the Oleksandria game crashed from 1.72 to 1.44 at bet365 (-139 to -228 in US Odds) was just a coincidence I guess, there were price drops at other firms as well but that seems to be the biggest difference in price I can find.
How about the next game, the one vs Olimpic where the odds crashed from 1.5 to 1.16 on Olimpic (-200 to -625 in US Odds), another coincidence yeah ?
Of course it could just be that 365 happened to price those games up completely wrongly and had to adjust accordingly - I mean Ukrainian Division 2 games do tend to be high quality affairs that attract all manner of large wagers from joe public (sarcasm warning!)
Now unfortunately it's up to Betfair to try to prove these games are indeed fixed, and I can't blame them for holding your "winnings" until they have investigated it fully - it might be that they can't find anything wrong, and they have to pay you out the ill-gotten gains you have stolen from them/their customers (depending on who was making the offers). One of the matches I know full well is being investigated by an independant panel who work hand in hand with a lot of the major bookmakers to investigate suspicious betting patterns.
But dont you dare come in here and plead the innocent man claiming "my monies was stolen by the evil betting company, please help me so that I can feed my family" etc etc and expect everyone to just believe your bullshit story just because you say it's the truth.
There is a small chance I am wrong about this, and that in fact you are just one of the plucky young gamblers who just so happen to make 106k over the course of a month purely on your knowledge and expertise on lower league soccer which the evil betfair are now trying to steal from you...but I highly doubt it !Comment -
maniac, you are spoton with your analisys. but the point the guy was making is that betfair is an exchange, they charge a commission, so why would they care if the matches were fixed or not?Comment -
Ukranian Div 2 soccer matches???? Unreal
Does Betfair have a line for my kids church league basketball game tomorrow too?Comment -
You patient? What mafia? From so think and in betfair. If millions made a bets on English Premier league, it is normal. And if some tens of thousands, it crimes. You nazi.Originally posted by necro
We not beggars, as though you didn't want it. Such patients work and in betfair.Comment -
Google translate really needs to improve their softwareComment -
even if betfair is an exchange and the offers were matched, it still has to protect its customers from being "swindled" by cons offering double the market odds, because a match is fixed, and will turn around in their favor.Originally posted by daejeonComment -
To me all the same that you to yourselves think. I last year from $150 in 2 months made more than $16000. From you will make such, and me you will teach life. I won with 6000$ $112851 not only on these three matches. I made a bets on 5-6 matches. To me simply made nonpayment only on these three matches. I still thought to made a bet on Stal Alchevsk against Obolon Kiev $1000 when Stal Alchevsk lost 2:0 and on Stal Alchevsk there was a coefficient 30. But I didn't decide. Stal Alchevsk won 3:2.Originally posted by Maniac"I won from 6000 US dollars to 112851 dollars in 35 days"
So you won 18x your initial deposit in little over a month, on at least 3 games involving the same Ukranian Division 2 team (Arsenal Bila as pointed out in the letter you got from betfair) and you still expect us to believe that it was just luck or good handicapping on your part right ?
The fact that the odds on the Oleksandria game crashed from 1.72 to 1.44 at bet365 (-139 to -228 in US Odds) was just a coincidence I guess, there were price drops at other firms as well but that seems to be the biggest difference in price I can find.
How about the next game, the one vs Olimpic where the odds crashed from 1.5 to 1.16 on Olimpic (-200 to -625 in US Odds), another coincidence yeah ?
Of course it could just be that 365 happened to price those games up completely wrongly and had to adjust accordingly - I mean Ukrainian Division 2 games do tend to be high quality affairs that attract all manner of large wagers from joe public (sarcasm warning!)
Now unfortunately it's up to Betfair to try to prove these games are indeed fixed, and I can't blame them for holding your "winnings" until they have investigated it fully - it might be that they can't find anything wrong, and they have to pay you out the ill-gotten gains you have stolen from them/their customers (depending on who was making the offers). One of the matches I know full well is being investigated by an independant panel who work hand in hand with a lot of the major bookmakers to investigate suspicious betting patterns.
But dont you dare come in here and plead the innocent man claiming "my monies was stolen by the evil betting company, please help me so that I can feed my family" etc etc and expect everyone to just believe your bullshit story just because you say it's the truth.
There is a small chance I am wrong about this, and that in fact you are just one of the plucky young gamblers who just so happen to make 106k over the course of a month purely on your knowledge and expertise on lower league soccer which the evil betfair are now trying to steal from you...but I highly doubt it !
The bet365 company has a limit of a prize of $800 for these matches. If there coefficients fell probably put a little, because a limit of $800. In bet365 the coefficient falls automatically if put even the small sum. By the way bet365 doesn't steal money from players.
I for such as you, already wrote as I staked on these matches and how many at me on the account remained money after the score 3:0. I will tell only that the match ended with the score 4:1. If I knew a mafia why I to myself still didn't earn money? Tell me. Why I the idiot didn't make a bets on over 4.5 goals and over 5.5 goals when to me after the score 3:0 calculated my bet? On these questions the betfair company doesn't give me the answer, but I will ask it in the betfair company in court. I here beg nobody. I decided to tell all about these swindlers. I will make everything that to players with the CIS were respectful, as well as to players from other countries. I don't want that tomorrow I make a bet, and to me wrote that I am connected with a mafia. In case money doesn't give, I will file a lawsuit against the betfair company for fraud. Me opinions of bookmakers don't interest. In bookmaker offices on the First league give very small sums to make a bets therefore to refer to their opinions ridiculously. Me interests, whether will be able to prove betfair that I knew on what made a bet. Whether this company will be able to prove that these matches were contractual (It the Federation of soccer of Ukraine if betfair and someone not in a course has to confirm).
I was written by one user about a match in curling where beat indisputable proofs of a fixed match. The federation of curling didn't confirm that the match was fixed and betfair returned money. I will ask in betfair why they don't investigate a match of Kluzh – Galatasaray? Everywhere write that the Portuguese mafia bought this match for 300,000 euros. If rules one, they have to be one for all football leagues and the countries, instead of for each country and league separately. It is bias to Ukraine. If the betfair company considers that in Ukraine such terrible corruption in soccer, let don't give these matches in the line. I don't think that they earn on matches of the Ukrainian soccer much.
I already said that I am an expert in the Ukrainian soccer. After to me the account blocked to me my manager called. I told that made me a bet 62611$ which to me blocked that Metallist win of Tavriya. She didn't want. The match ended a victory of the Metallist 5:0. But my manager even I didn't want to listen. It says only about one that the staff of the betfair company made a bets and it isn't favorable to them that against them strong players played. They play the game which to us is unclear.
If the betfair company gives me money, I can become their consultant after the Ukrainian soccer. But to it my services will cost much very much.
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Мне все равно, что вы себе думаете. Я в прошлом году с 150$ за 2 месяца сделал больше 16000$ . От сделаете такое, и будете меня учить жизни. Я выиграл с 6000$ 112851$ не только на этих трех матчах. Я ставил еще на 5-6 матчей. Мне просто сделали невыплату только по этим трех матчах. Я еще думал ставить на Сталь Алчевск против Оболон Киев 1000$, когда Сталь Алчевск проигрывала 2:0 и на Сталь был коэффициент 30. Но я не решился. Сталь виграла 3:2.
У компаниии bet365 лимит выигрыша 800$ на эти матчи. Если там коэффициенты упали наверное поставили немного, потому что лимит 800$. В bet365 коэффициент падает автоматически если поставили даже небольшую сумму. Кстати bet365 деньги у игроков не крадет.
Я для таких как вы, уже писал как я делал ставки на эти матчи и сколько у меня на счету оставалось денег после счета 3:0. Скажу только, что матч закончился со счетом 4:1. Если бы я знал мафию, то почему я себе еще денег не заработал? Скажите мне. Почему я идиот дальше не ставил на больше 4.5 голов и больше 5.5 голов, когда мне после счета 3:0 рассчитали ставку? На эти вопросы компания betfair не дает мне ответа, но я буду спрашивать это в компании betfair в суде. Я здесь никого не умоляю. Я решил всем сказать про этих мошенников. Я сделаю все, чтобы к игрокам с СНГ относились с уважением, как и к игрокам с других стран. Я не хочу, чтобы завтра я поставил деньги, а мне написали, что я связан с мафией. В случае если деньги не отдадут, я буду подавать в суд на компанию betfair за мошенничество. Меня не интересуют мнения букмекеров. В букмекерских конторах на Первую лигу дают очень маленькие суммы поставить, потому на их мнения ссылаться смешно. Меня интересует, сможет ли betfair доказать, что я знал на что ставил. Сможет ли эта компания доказать что эти матчи были договорными (Это должна подтвердить Федерация футбола Украины, если betfair и кто-то не в курсе).
Мне писал один пользователь о матче в керлинге, где били неоспоримые доказательства договорного матча. Федерация керлинга не подтвердила что матч был договорной и betfair вернуло деньги. Я спрошу в betfair почему они не расследуют матч Клуж – Галатасарай? Везде пишут что Португальская мафия купила этот матч за 300,000€. Если правила одни, то они должны быть одни для всех футбольных лиг и стран, а не для каждой страны и лиги отдельно. Это предвзятость к Украине. Если компания betfair считает что в Украине такая страшная коррупция в футболе, то пусть не дает эти матчи в линии. Я не думаю, что они очень много зарабатывают на матчах Украинского футбола.
Я уже говорил, что я специалист в Украинском футболе. После того как мне счет заблокировали мне позвонил мой менеджер. Я сказал что поставьте мне 62611$, которые мне заблокировали на Металлист против Таврии. Она не захотела. Матч закончился победой Металлиста 5:0. Но мой менеджер даже слушать не захотела. Это говорит только об одном, что сотрудники компании betfair делают ставки и им не выгодно чтобы против их играли сильные игроки. Они играют в свою игру, которая нам непонятна.
Если компания betfair отдаст мне деньги, то я могу стать их консультантом по Украинском футболе. Но им будут очень дорого стоить мои услуги.Comment -
betfair doesn't protect clients. They play the game. I doubt that they will return money to players who staked against mine for.Originally posted by spiderComment -
Originally posted by spider
That write it about the company which to care of the players. Try to translate Google Translator.
Pay attention on http://www.betwin365.ru/publ/moshenn...fair/1-1-0-766Comment -
That is a fair comment.Originally posted by stepanko86.Comment -
In my case, that matches was fixed this lies. There something another. Probably as I also spoke employees were lost and now don't know as to confiscate money. More than a month passed and betfair doesn't know when to end investigations because if will write that money won't give me, I file a lawsuit. And it isn't necessary for them. Therefore they also play for time.Originally posted by OptionalComment -
It looks like you are very interested in those fixed games. You know a win in CL means 1m € prize while draw is 500k! Think of next rounds and more money, etc.. Those journalists know nothing about football and maths. They just want to sell more papers. By the way, they cant use a translator like you. Once they said they made an interview with Ohne Berater who is the agent of Jelavic according to them. They had a look at transfermarkt but forgot to check who "ohne berater" is or actually what it means
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