Betfair doesn't pay money to players

[stepanko86]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Ukraine

That's the one and only reason some of your guys are rich.
Or you wanna talk about rich guys like Rinat Leonidowytsch Achmetow? Yeah, they all are really good people who deserved what they have now

And here Rinat Ahmetov? You have complexes or you envy that go to the psychiatrist. I speak to you about betfair and about three matches instead of corruption in Ukraine in business and in policy.

[Taka]

You proved that it there was a fixed match?

Not my job, but the authorities are apparently working on it, so just sit tight...

[stepanko86]

Not my job, but the authorities are apparently working on it, so just sit tight...

Corruption in betfair. Tomorrow from you will take away money and you will laugh with yourself. Really you think that betfair makes investigation or something finds out. They will take away money and all.

[zizoudane10]

1. Learn english or nobody can fcking understand a single sentence here.
2. Your whole story sounds like bullshit.
3. After you learned to express yourself in english file a complaint.
4. If these matches were "clean", you will get your account back.

I'm out here, can't read any more of this fantasy language. Hurts my fcking eyes.

[stepanko86]

1. Learn english or nobody can fcking understand a single sentence here.
2. Your whole story sounds like bullshit.
3. After you learned to express yourself in english file a complaint.
4. If these matches were "clean", you will get your account back.

I'm out here, can't read any more of this fantasy language. Hurts my fcking eyes.

I understood that you work at betfair and them here you protect.

[zizoudane10]

I understood that you work at betfair and them here you protect.

Betfair, did you read this?

Contact me and offer me a job!

You're a donk pal

[stepanko86]

Betfair, did you read this?

Contact me and offer me a job!

You're a donk pal

Don't fool about. I didn't know what these are matches was fixed or not. I just like that earn money and such bastards as betfair simply confiscated them. And here and Ahmetov and corruption.

[Taka]

Corruption in betfair. Tomorrow from you will take away money and you will laugh with yourself. Really you think that betfair makes investigation or something finds out. They will take away money and all.

I'm pretty sure they don't investigate it themself, but wait for the proper authorities to come up with the results of their own investigation. In this case that's probably UEFA, the league and possibly police... If investigations show there has been nothing wrong with that game, I think you'll get your money back. So if you are sure the result has not been fixed (and you just got lucky), you have nothing to worry about. Congratulations on your big win!

[stepanko86]

I'm pretty sure they don't investigate it themself, but wait for the proper authorities to come up with the results of their own investigation. In this case that's probably UEFA, the league and possibly police... If investigations show there has been nothing wrong with that game, I think you'll get your money back. So if you are sure the result has not been fixed (and you just got lucky), you have nothing to worry about. Congratulations on your big win!

To me all the same there was there a fixed match or not. I on the account had more many money and I could made a bets, but didn't made. I could make in the last match Olimpik Donetsk - Arsenal Bila Tserkva over 3.5 and 4.5 goals. The match ended 4:1. I make a bet only more than 2.5 goals. Why the most honest exchange of sports bets betfair doesn't look at it and doesn't draw from conclusions? Let still will prove that I am a swindler and staked knowing beforehand result.

[stepanko86]

I'm pretty sure they don't investigate it themself, but wait for the proper authorities to come up with the results of their own investigation. In this case that's probably UEFA, the league and possibly police... If investigations show there has been nothing wrong with that game, I think you'll get your money back. So if you are sure the result has not been fixed (and you just got lucky), you have nothing to worry about. Congratulations on your big win!

And into the account to worry, I would look at you if you won money and from you them confiscated. Let will return money and carry out though the whole life the investigation. At me beat plans and now because of these geeks I don't know what to do. And I am not going to apologize before anybody. Unless betfair will indemnify me moral loss. Then I will write to all and I will apologize. And so I will write everywhere that they are swindlers who steal money.

[allin1]

1. Learn english or nobody can fcking understand a single sentence here.
2. Your whole story sounds like bullshit.
3. After you learned to express yourself in english file a complaint.
4. If these matches were "clean", you will get your account back.

I'm out here, can't read any more of this fantasy language. Hurts my fcking eyes.

lmao. I agree. It hurts to read all this.

Rich country my ass. Here is a little piece of info from wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Albania

"Average gross salary 246 € / 332 $, monthly (2010)^[5]"

and this guy claims he bets 4000 from his spare money. "no fix there officer. no fix. I am shpecialisssst."

Don't get me wrong I am from a country where the average gross salary is the same as in Albania. The difference is we are in the European Union so, things are a little better here. But things regarding betting are similar and trust me you don't see people throwing around 4000 on a match if it isn't a fix or if that money is not 2% of his total bankroll, and those guys are the rich business owners that wouldn't spend their time on forums to complain about a 4000 bet especially not with that kind of avatar. lmao

[Taka]

Stepanko, I can't help but to think how perfectly your avatar matches your posts...

[sharlataans]

He does not live in Albania

[allin1]

He does not live in Albania

my mistake then, I thought I saw something about Albania

Sorry stepanko I thought you are from Albania.

[Taka]

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[Duff85]

Does "250 different markets" as they refer to it actually mean 250 different games you bet on? Why call a single game a market?

No - a market can be any betting option. So take a basketball game for example - the h2h match up is a market, the spread is a market, the total points is a market, team totals are markets etc etc etc

[Optional]

Where it is written? You from a ceiling took it or this your sick imagination?

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results

Ukraine 30th most corrupt country.

Albania 60th most corrupt.

[Duff85]

I'm interested to see how Justin7 rules here.

[stepanko86]

Stepanko, I can't help but to think how perfectly your avatar matches your posts...

It is David Villa caricature. If at you the perverted thoughts it is your problems. Probably you such about what wrote.

[stepanko86]

my mistake then, I thought I saw something about Albania

Sorry stepanko I thought you are from Albania.

I in Albania never was and I have no acquaintances from Albania. I at all don't know where this country on the world map.

[Duff85]

Stepanko can you post each of the bets and odds from the three matches in question? I'd be intrigued to see what Betfair deems as "under the market".

[stepanko86]

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results

Ukraine 30th most corrupt country.

Albania 60th most corrupt.

You look corruption in soccer instead of in all country.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/22305/2/

The Italian Sport Agency listed Albania as the most corrupt footballing nation with 97 matches fixed.

Below is a lsit of the most corrupt footballing countries in Europe, with most matches fixed in the last three years.


1. Albania 97 matches
2. Italy 70
3. Moldavia 66
4. Estonia 46
5. Greece 45
6. Russia 42
7. MACEDONIA 37
8. Bulgaria 35
9. Latvia 31
10. Lithuania 31


Ukraine in ten isn't present even. And you to me write nonsense and it is unclear that.

[stepanko86]

Stepanko can you post each of the bets and odds from the three matches in question? I'd be intrigued to see what Betfair deems as "under the market".

I wrote in the beginning about it. And I can't send to the account of bets as I didn't make screenshots because to me blocked the account.

[Optional]

Where else apart from Betfair can you get down large money on Ukraine league Stepanko?

[stepanko86]

Where else apart from Betfair can you get down large money on Ukraine league Stepanko?

At present I will look for bookmakers as the betfair company showed the true worth as which gangster structure to spit on clients. They bribed all. I directed requests for Malta where to them granted the license, but there don't answer though write that they are independent. Corruption prospers both in England and on Malta. To that about Ukraine you are silent better and you don't speak. You look at the European countries.

[Optional]

Does that mean you have not bet like this before joining Betfair?

[stepanko86]

Does that mean you have not bet like this before joining Betfair?

I made a bets in other bookmaker companies, but very much was afraid to get on swindlers and to that all money hit into betfair. Then I understood that swindlers of betfair.

[Optional]

I imagine it is very difficult to find anywhere else to take thousands on a Ukraine league total. let alone live in play. :\

You betting this league with such confidence would 'alert' any books security team to check you out I think. Would be tough to play like this anywhere.

[stepanko86]

I imagine it is very difficult to find anywhere else to take thousands on a Ukraine league total. let alone live in play. :\

You betting this league with such confidence would 'alert' any books security team to check you out I think. Would be tough to play like this anywhere.

They write that the sportbet exchange. These actions they showed that any they not the exchange and they mada a bets on this matches. Gave money and don't give more than this league. Let make the investigation.

[allin1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine

"Average gross salary 237 € / 319 $, monthly (Jan-Aug 2011)^[6]"

No wonder they suspect fixing when someone bets 4000 on a match. It is not a normal bet for an average Ukrainian guy.

[stepanko86]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine

"Average gross salary 237 € / 319 $, monthly (Jan-Aug 2011)^[6]"

No wonder they suspect fixing when someone bets 4000 on a match. It is not a normal bet for an average Ukrainian guy.

You are an idiot? That you clung to economy of Ukraine. And from where you such took that I am the average Ukrainian guy? I on it earn money instead of I write nonsense as you about economy of Ukraine. You are the sick person. Why you equal economy to me?

[stepanko86]

The request to everything who writes. Don't write nonsense of missile defence economy in ukraine. What relations the economy of ukraine to bets on betfair has?

[Optional]

They write that the sportbet exchange. These actions they showed that any they not the exchange and they mada a bets on this matches. Gave money and don't give more than this league. Let make the investigation.

Agree. There should be some investigation. But as they say, that will take months. Which sucks for you either way.

Is there any way to know if there really is an investigation into these matches from football officials?

[stepanko86]

Agree. There should be some investigation. But as they say, that will take months. Which sucks for you either way.

Is there any way to know if there really is an investigation into these matches from football officials?

I wrote to them that results of investigation confirmed official football bodies in Ukraine and results beat are written on sites ffu.org.ua and pfl.ua. Let will write that these matches was fixed. And in betfair I was told that I didn't teach them to live.

[nasdaq]

stepanko86, what do PFL officers say ?