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  • wrongturn
    SBR MVP
    • 06-06-06
    • 2228

    #36
    True instruction for Xpress check: wait 3-4 weeks, notified to switch to p2p, wait a few days, collect.
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    • mathdotcom
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-24-08
      • 11689

      #37
      Originally posted by ronald
      Can someone please post a screen shot of the current withdrawal methods offered by BOL along with the corresponding description from them as to how long each method takes?
      Don't forget you also have to include the time it takes them to place the funds back into your account in the event of a failed wire/skrill/etc payout. It took me 2 months to get Lowvig to even credit the failed wire dimes back towards my balance so that I could try something else

      eastern union currently the only withdrawal method I am aware of, and takes 1-2 days

      As far as I know BOL does not credit players with a free moccasin cleaning as a result of the often wet/snowy treks to money mart
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      • Scorpion
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-04-05
        • 7797

        #38
        Originally posted by wrongturn
        True instruction for Xpress check: wait 3-4 weeks, notified to switch to p2p, wait a few days, collect.

        thats not good at all, i requested a payout only because of all the negative posts on the forums about betonline payout issues, I will post here when I get my payout, its only for $2500
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        • mighty maron
          SBR MVP
          • 04-20-09
          • 4215

          #39
          This BOL and SBR business still....the refusal to downgrade puts into question all the middling ratings SBR gives...the F's and A+'s are easy to rate...the rest....

          so sad sbr
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          • sharpcircle
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-05-11
            • 308

            #40
            Justin7,

            How can a book be rated B- when they don't discuss disputes with SBR?
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            • Justin7
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-31-06
              • 8577

              #41
              Originally posted by sharpcircle
              Justin7,

              How can a book be rated B- when they don't discuss disputes with SBR?
              Which book?
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              • Emily_Haines
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-09
                • 15917

                #42
                Originally posted by mathdotcom
                1. CRIS won't do book2books with them anymore.
                2. Have a Skrill payout request pending 2 weeks now, BOL will not reply to e-mails.
                3. Processed a book2book from sportsbetting to BOL for the Skrill option which now seems dead (cost me $200 for nothing).
                4. LowVig added Skrill as a payout option. After several weeks they said they cannot process it and returned funds to account. Yes, my ongoing saga with LowVig is still not over -- have been trying to get out 25k since April and only now have it down to 2k.
                5. The only confirmed BOL payout I know of in the past few weeks is eastern union. Completely unacceptable for players stuck with over 40k in BOL family. At the rate of their eastern union payouts it will be April 2013 before I'm paid.

                SBR refuses to downgrade. SBR continues to make excuses. The list of books rated B or lower that are 100x better than BOL is growing daily.

                The real question is why do I even bother bringing this up on this forum.
                With so many books going up I could not understand you desire to put money into low vig when they first came online. It seemed you just couldn't get your money into the book fast enough. Why the hell did you A] deposit so much or B] let your balance get so high in a book with no proven track record?

                Did it not occur to you when BOL puts out shitty numbers with a tiny limit that they are trying to get people to deposit and maybe their just not that financially secure.

                You keep a big balance at any book that accepts US players your just asking for trouble.

                Oh and the SBR book ratings are complete garbage. When we have a book like Heritage straight up rip off a player, deal dual lines, move numbers on air, adjust teaser odds to their favor, limit anyone's account to 100 max bet that is up money, etc. Then you bring up these concerns to SBR they tell you to fuk off and it's just risk management that maybe the rating system is not on the up and up.
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                • allin1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-07-11
                  • 4555

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  Which book?
                  Is there any high rated book that doesn't discuss complaints other than betfair?
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                  • BAUS
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 2191

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                    Did it not occur to you when BOL puts out shitty numbers with a tiny limit that they are trying to get people to deposit and maybe their just not that financially secure.
                    I think the BOL/Lowvig/Sportsbetting family hangs pretty sharp numbers and moves their lines well. They aren't the type of shop that lets stale numbers just sit there to be picked off.

                    BAUS
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                    • Fiasco01
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 325

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Scorpion
                      thats not good at all, i requested a payout only because of all the negative posts on the forums about betonline payout issues, I will post here when I get my payout, its only for $2500
                      I also requested a payout because of the recent feedback. Submitted yesterday morning and as of today it's been approved via Xpress Check. I'll post as updates become available for those interested.
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                      • Scorpion
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-04-05
                        • 7797

                        #46
                        mine was approved 10 days ago, still have not received it

                        $2,500.00 XpressChk Approved
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                        • mathdotcom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-24-08
                          • 11689

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                          With so many books going up I could not understand you desire to put money into low vig when they first came online. It seemed you just couldn't get your money into the book fast enough. Why the hell did you A] deposit so much or B] let your balance get so high in a book with no proven track record?
                          I believe I sent 2500. Why did I let my balance get so high? How the fukk else do you win? Dumbass.

                          Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                          Did it not occur to you when BOL puts out shitty numbers with a tiny limit that they are trying to get people to deposit and maybe their just not that financially secure.
                          What? Their numbers are better now than ever, and when they were super soft they actually paid out the fastest. Tiny limits? You obviously have no clue there either -- their limits are among the highest.
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                          • DimSum
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-27-12
                            • 358

                            #48
                            Their limits, betting options and lines are better than most "A" sportsbooks. Too bad their payouts take long as hell
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                            • Fiasco01
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-18-10
                              • 325

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Scorpion
                              mine was approved 10 days ago, still have not received it

                              $2,500.00 XpressChk Approved
                              Probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, have you asked them what the status is?
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                              • barstool
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 01-22-12
                                • 7

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Fiasco01
                                Probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, have you asked them what the status is?
                                Status says approved.

                                Much like mine has for the last two weeks.
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                                • DimSum
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 10-27-12
                                  • 358

                                  #51
                                  I'm sure as hell that u will need to wait atleast a month for checks
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                                  • Scorpion
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-04-05
                                    • 7797

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Fiasco01
                                    Probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, have you asked them what the status is?
                                    of course, they said right now we are experiencing a slight delay with our payments

                                    its football season and then cant fuking pay, I dont understand why they are rated so high
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                                    • richsox24
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-10-10
                                      • 106

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Scorpion
                                      of course, they said right now we are experiencing a slight delay with our payments

                                      its football season and then cant fuking pay, I dont understand why they are rated so high
                                      If you really dont know why they are rated so high, I'll spell it out for you.

                                      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$

                                      We should start a thread about what else SBR will do for a dollar.
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                                      • sharpcircle
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 02-05-11
                                        • 308

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by justin7
                                        which book?
                                        Bwin
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                                        • allin1
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-07-11
                                          • 4555

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                          Bwin
                                          I think bwin deserve the b- rating because they are solid, they make so many profits that they will pay anything as long as you are not involved in fraud. their cs sucks but that's their business model. maybe as far as they are concerned they don't need to change it because it wouldn't improve their profits drastically
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                                          • DimSum
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-27-12
                                            • 358

                                            #56
                                            After contacted CS 10x, twitted Dave Mason and spoke to player service manager, I finally got my check today. It took 5 weeks total. Hopefully it won't bounce tomorrow
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                                            • sharpcircle
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-05-11
                                              • 308

                                              #57
                                              allin1

                                              Bwin steals from players regularly. they refuse to discuss any issues with SBR.

                                              you are wrong.
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                                              • allin1
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-07-11
                                                • 4555

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                allin1

                                                Bwin steals from players regularly. they refuse to discuss any issues with SBR.

                                                you are wrong.
                                                I might be, but can you be sure those players aren't suspects of fraud?

                                                Let's ask Justin7 about this. He usually has a good idea of what's going on at a bookmaker and if they deserve their rating.
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                                                • Fiasco01
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                  • 325

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by DimSum
                                                  After contacted CS 10x, twitted Dave Mason and spoke to player service manager, I finally got my check today. It took 5 weeks total. Hopefully it won't bounce tomorrow
                                                  Let us know if that check bounces...not a joke btw.
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                                                  • DimSum
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 10-27-12
                                                    • 358

                                                    #60
                                                    Check is good, I deposited it this morning.
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                                                    • lecubs28
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-17-11
                                                      • 638

                                                      #61
                                                      betonline paid me a few days ago.

                                                      waiting for $10k in delayed payouts from lowvig for weeks now
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                                                      • SBR Lou
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-02-07
                                                        • 37863

                                                        #62
                                                        We've received word that mathdotcom has received his payout.
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                                                        • pensfan1919
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-08-12
                                                          • 120

                                                          #63
                                                          What? Their numbers are better now than ever, and when they were super soft they actually paid out the fastest. Tiny limits? You obviously have no clue there either -- their limits are among the highest.
                                                          What EmilyHaines was referring to was the weak openers with small limits that BOL puts out before the rest of the market puts out the real numbers.
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                                                          • mathdotcom
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-24-08
                                                            • 11689

                                                            #64
                                                            Correct I received my 8k Skrill payout today

                                                            Hopefully their technical issues involving Skrill payouts have been resolved for good...
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                                                            • sharpcircle
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 02-05-11
                                                              • 308

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by allin1
                                                              I might be, but can you be sure those players aren't suspects of fraud?

                                                              Let's ask Justin7 about this. He usually has a good idea of what's going on at a bookmaker and if they deserve their rating.
                                                              you're wrong again.

                                                              they were having the EV stolen from them. Keep defending a book THAT REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT ANY COMPLAINTS. and they will keep stealing with a B- rating.

                                                              its amazing how many losing sportsbettors are PRO book time and time again.
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                                                              • sharpcircle
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 02-05-11
                                                                • 308

                                                                #66
                                                                sbrlou,

                                                                is betonline paying out propery to skrill? What is the timeframe they estimate it will take to be paid with the skrill option in future
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                                                                • allin1
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-07-11
                                                                  • 4555

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                                  you're wrong again.

                                                                  they were having the EV stolen from them. Keep defending a book THAT REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT ANY COMPLAINTS. and they will keep stealing with a B- rating.

                                                                  its amazing how many losing sportsbettors are PRO book time and time again.
                                                                  I am supportive when it comes to some bookmakers: uk books, pinny, sbobet. I still think bwin are solid. I have the right to be wrong though.

                                                                  I don't like any costa rica books or betfair. I support a bookmaker only if I never had problems with it and I have made enough withdrawals to be satisfied with their services.

                                                                  I respect your opinion though.
                                                                  Last edited by allin1; 11-02-12, 06:39 PM.
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                                                                  • sharpcircle
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-05-11
                                                                    • 308

                                                                    #68
                                                                    You are supporting a book that steals then refuses to talk about the theft.

                                                                    why do you think they would choose that option?? instead of going thru mediators...

                                                                    I don't respect your opinion because its incorrect. however you do have the full right to be completely wrong on the issue.
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                                                                    • allin1
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-07-11
                                                                      • 4555

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                                      You are supporting a book that steals then refuses to talk about the theft.

                                                                      why do you think they would choose that option?? instead of going thru mediators...

                                                                      I don't respect your opinion because its incorrect. however you do have the full right to be completely wrong on the issue.
                                                                      ok. I googled it and found this



                                                                      it says: bwin later reversed their decision on this. both players with this dispute confirmed receiving their full balances in their bank account.

                                                                      they make ridiculous sums of money from losing bettors that's why I don't think they would bother too much with stealing out of the blue just because they feel like it. they are too busy counting money from the losers. I think they make more than most of the books out there.

                                                                      BUT looking at the video I see that justin7 decided to vote for a downgrade because of this incident which he classified as theft. even if they decided to reverse their decision there might be a lot more other similar cases.

                                                                      I forgot about this incident so I admit I was wrong. I always trust justin7's opinion.
                                                                      Last edited by allin1; 11-02-12, 07:22 PM.
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                                                                      • sharpcircle
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 02-05-11
                                                                        • 308

                                                                        #70
                                                                        lol you aren't even reading my posts. they don't discuss disputes and amazingly remain B-. you're too busy herp herp defending books herp herp durrrr to actually think about why the would choose to REFUSE mediation on ANY CASES.

                                                                        instead of think or reading my posts you have decided because there is losing players they profit from they do not steal.

                                                                        great job, great critical thinking skills.
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