Luis Suarez' Handball

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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    Luis Suarez' Handball
    Curious. How many people label him a cheat for his handball on the goal line yesterday? How many think anyone in his position would have done the same thing?

    I understand "purists" who are whining about him cheating because it was a blatant hand ball, but to those "purists" I say - he was dealt with accordingly for his actions. He got a red card. Ghana got a penalty kick. Ghana player choked and then Uruguay EARNED their spot in the semifinals.

    So let's hear it.
  • COOGI
    SBR MVP
    • 05-05-10
    • 1510

    #2
    oscar award 2011
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    • JOHON8
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-28-10
      • 7712

      #3
      He knew the consequences would be a red card/penalty but that's better than losing the QF match. He played the rules like anyone else would do in that position, anyone who calls him a cheat for that don't have the balls to say they would do the same thing in his position. Ghana failed big time on the penalties anyways so it's their own fault for losing.
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      • Karayilan9
        Restricted User
        • 01-10-09
        • 3742

        #4
        Suarez did the right thing and became a national hero, he had to get the ball off the line, took a bullet for the team and now they are in the semi's. If he let the ball cross the line he would have been an idiot, its the last minute of extra time, a mans goto do what a mans goto do,

        I would be more worried about a player that wouldn't do the same, you would have to question his devotion to team, country and the cause and question whether he is even a man
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        • aneurysm00
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-07-08
          • 230

          #5
          Blame FIFA if anyone.
          Intentional hand ball which prevents a goal = red card + automatic goal given.
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          • JOHON8
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-28-10
            • 7712

            #6
            Originally posted by aneurysm00
            Blame FIFA if anyone.
            Intentional hand ball which prevents a goal = red card + automatic goal given.
            automatic penalty. And Ghana failed.
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            • Rixsaw
              SBR MVP
              • 10-23-08
              • 4532

              #7
              Style point is overrated. In the real world, only the final result matters. I'm sure he is hail as a hero in his own country. The team that played clean but lose, is still called a loser. As a player, I would have done the same.
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              • aneurysm00
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-07-08
                • 230

                #8
                Originally posted by JOHON8
                automatic penalty. And Ghana failed.
                I meant to say that the rule should be changed to that
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                • Cheetahponti
                  Restricted User
                  • 12-09-09
                  • 377

                  #9
                  Typical BS from sports betters - to hell with ethics and playing in the spirit of the game. Last time I checked this is a game that involves playing with the feet, and just because FIFA is ass-backwards when it comes to video replays and making goals like the Ghana one automatic doesn't make Suarez some type of hero.

                  Uruguay are full of dirty players and this was just a classic example. They won the game - good for them, now I get to boo both them and Holland in the next game
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                  • McBa1n
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-02-06
                    • 2642

                    #10
                    There's nothing 'cheap' or 'cheating' about what Suarez did, IMO. He did what any person in that exact situation should've done. You know you're going to get the red card. You know you're done for the day. You know you're out for at least a game. You also know that the other team is going to get a free goal. TBH, it was one of the top plays of the tournament because it kept his team alive in a situation where they were definitly going home. And even if the PK is converted, he still made the correct play in that situation.

                    It just blows my mind what came after - it's a bloody miracle. Suarez is a national hero IMO.
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                    • fuglyboy86hi
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 08-10-09
                      • 499

                      #11
                      extra talented play at the moment under such pressurized situation !
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                      • SoV
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-21-10
                        • 6420

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aneurysm00

                        I meant to say that the rule should be changed to that
                        No. Don't agree at all.

                        Also, LOVE the avatar. You a Scouser too?
                        FML

                        http://forum.sbrforum.com/soccer-han...scussions.html
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                        • Mr.Kitty
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-10-09
                          • 1880

                          #13
                          He did the right thing otherwise they would have been out, who wouldent have done the same thing in that situation?
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                          • Cheetahponti
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-09-09
                            • 377

                            #14
                            Originally posted by McBa1n
                            There's nothing 'cheap' or 'cheating' about what Suarez did, IMO. He did what any person in that exact situation should've done. You know you're going to get the red card. You know you're done for the day. You know you're out for at least a game. You also know that the other team is going to get a free goal. TBH, it was one of the top plays of the tournament because it kept his team alive in a situation where they were definitly going home. And even if the PK is converted, he still made the correct play in that situation.

                            It just blows my mind what came after - it's a bloody miracle. Suarez is a national hero IMO.
                            A miracle to be sure. But a national hero? It's like someone employing Hack-a-Shaq in the NBA to win a finals game - within the rules, yes, something to be admired - nope.
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                            • Barroco
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-21-10
                              • 335

                              #15
                              suarez cheated but wasn't punished by Ghana, he should get a two game ban otherwise fifa is condoning and encouraging cheating.
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                              • hedgejob
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-21-09
                                • 2561

                                #16
                                What I don't understand are his antics as he was walking off and Gyan missed the pen, running back on the field celebrating, and his inflamatory post match comments. He's so juvenile he doesn't realize FIFA can ban him for more than 1 game which means he'll miss the final. Better shut that mouth son.
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                                • skrtelfan
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-09-08
                                  • 1913

                                  #17
                                  He would have missed the final anyway had he not stopped the ball.

                                  Rules are rules. It's no different than if a basketball team losing by 3 with 1 second left without the ball intentionally fouled their opponent, the opponent missed both shots, that team made a desperation 3 then won in OT.
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94379

                                    #18
                                    Why didnt he head it off the line?
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                                    • Barroco
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 01-21-10
                                      • 335

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      Why didnt he head it off the line?
                                      suarez is a smurf plus, the player in front of him thought he was a goalie also.
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                                      • Cheetahponti
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 377

                                        #20
                                        Suarez is a disgrace with his comments and antics, as is the Uruguay goalkeeper waving his finger at the Ghana player who missed the second penalty - what a wanker. And now people use words like "national hero" around these type of guys? Only in Uruguay and SBR forum poster land apparently.
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                                        • michalis
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                                          • 01-02-10
                                          • 1439

                                          #21
                                          er, you are forgetting that the ball wasnt flying high, the idiot could have easily cleared it with his head
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                                          • nulldah
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-27-10
                                            • 1473

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Why didnt he head it off the line?
                                            because it's too much risk and easier to use hands. more reasonable, he needs to decide it in split seconds and in that dying seconds, nothing about fair play or red card come to his minds at all, I believe. The one in his minds must be "stop the damn ball"

                                            I don't see it as unfairness. Ghana got the penalty, he got red card. For those that think it's unfair, they basically just want to criticize FIFA in every possible way. If there are players that think it's unfair, then they can freely use this "technique" in other matches. Conceded a penalty and get a red card. Then, 99% see a goal conceded. After that, rethink the fairness again.
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                                            • nulldah
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-27-10
                                              • 1473

                                              #23
                                              to be more precise, If Gyan scored that goal, then I don't think any of this issue will appear.
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                                              • Cheetahponti
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 12-09-09
                                                • 377

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by nulldah
                                                because it's too much risk and easier to use hands. more reasonable, he needs to decide it in split seconds and in that dying seconds, nothing about fair play or red card come to his minds at all, I believe. The one in his minds must be "stop the damn ball"

                                                I don't see it as unfairness. Ghana got the penalty, he got red card. For those that think it's unfair, they basically just want to criticize FIFA in every possible way. If there are players that think it's unfair, then they can freely use this "technique" in other matches. Conceded a penalty and get a red card. Then, 99% see a goal conceded. After that, rethink the fairness again.
                                                It's "unfair" only in the ephemeral sense of Ghana deserving to win at that point in the game. But that's besides the point, soccer is a game where upsets and the unexpected happens regularly - and what Suarez does was within the rules. To admire the man for it though you really have to be smoking something I need to get a hold of!
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                                                • JW Cash
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                  • 4453

                                                  #25
                                                  He might be banned for the final
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                                                  • nulldah
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-27-10
                                                    • 1473

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Cheetahponti

                                                    It's "unfair" only in the ephemeral sense of Ghana deserving to win at that point in the game. But that's besides the point, soccer is a game where upsets and the unexpected happens regularly - and what Suarez does was within the rules. To admire the man for it though you really have to be smoking something I need to get a hold of!
                                                    Try to see my original post and point where I admired him. What I said about him is most players in that position will do the same thing. The rest is all about fairness. So did I ever write I admired him? In fact, he screwed up my bet on Ghana to qualify.
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                                                    • PeePee
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-08-09
                                                      • 619

                                                      #27
                                                      He's a hero to Uru.

                                                      Anyone will do the same... If you are in his position and you don't do that then you are STUPID.
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                                                      • AlphaOmega
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-31-08
                                                        • 1146

                                                        #28
                                                        He did what he had to do to get the win. He knew the consequence of his actions and will not play in the semi-finals. I just read that FIFA is thinking of BANNING him for two games becasue of his actions. That is just BS you cannot just all of a sudden change the rules just because he cheated Ghana out of a win. Ghana fuked that up all by themselves when they missed the ensuing Penalty Kick.
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                                                        • PeePee
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-08-09
                                                          • 619

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Cheetahponti
                                                          Suarez is a disgrace with his comments and antics, as is the Uruguay goalkeeper waving his finger at the Ghana player who missed the second penalty - what a wanker. And now people use words like "national hero" around these type of guys? Only in Uruguay and SBR forum poster land apparently.

                                                          You must had your $$$ on Ghana to advance.


                                                          Blame the freaking players who missed 3 PKs.
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                                                          • Cheetahponti
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 12-09-09
                                                            • 377

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nulldah
                                                            Try to see my original post and point where I admired him. What I said about him is most players in that position will do the same thing. The rest is all about fairness. So did I ever write I admired him? In fact, he screwed up my bet on Ghana to qualify.
                                                            Haha, sorry man we might be talking past each other. My point was to the other people on the thread inferring that he should be considered a hero, not that you specifically were doing so.

                                                            Anyway, off to the next game I go. Don't know who to support after Spain played unsportsmanlike last game so will just drink beer and enjoy!
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                                                            • Karayilan9
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-10-09
                                                              • 3742

                                                              #31
                                                              What is not to admire about Suarez, he has been great all tournament, scored the two goals to get the team into the QF's, saved the ball off the line with his hands in the 120th minute and now they are in the Semi finals of the world cup. There is a difference in football culture, trickery and craftiness 'viveza criolla' is more respected and accepted in South America than Europe.

                                                              Nobody can say they wouldn't want a player on their team to do the same in that situation.
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                                                              • Cheetahponti
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 12-09-09
                                                                • 377

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by PeePee
                                                                You must had your $$$ on Ghana to advance.


                                                                Blame the freaking players who missed 3 PKs.
                                                                Nope had money on the draw so cashed nicely. But yes I really don't like Uruguay as you might be able to tell
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                                                                • griffdog
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-25-09
                                                                  • 424

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Cheating, yeah yeah whatever. He did what he had to do, simple as that. With what was at stake and with no time left for another chance, he'd have been crazy to let the ball go in. As for heading it off the line, in that split second, you have to react any way you know how to keep that ball out of the net, and hey, if that meant using his hands, so be it.

                                                                  Hey, it would've been the same situation if Gyan had been racing clear through to goal and Suarez took him out in the box to prevent the goal. Professional foul, red card, penalty kick, same 'took one for the team' action. You don't do it, you lose the game. You do it, your team might lose you, but they still have a chance to go on and win it...and as it happened, Uruguay got their miracle and took advantage of it. Perhaps he'll miss the final if Uruguay make it, but they wouldn't have a shot at making it if he hadn't done what he did.
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                                                                  • kmoney
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 04-19-10
                                                                    • 119

                                                                    #34
                                                                    just saw the replay. the dude is a hero
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                                                                    • Barroco
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-21-10
                                                                      • 335

                                                                      #35
                                                                      its wrong for Henry to do it but okay for suarez.
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