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  • Tommy_de1st
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    • 02-23-10
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    #36
    Originally posted by lakerboy
    Barca look too obvious and i believe they will go out to Inter. Bayern is in the final already- lyon is wasting there time. Bayern is a team of destiny. There unlikely key goals up to now have convinced me they will take it all. Teams dont go down 3-0 at Old Trafford and score 2 goals and go thru. Bayern also had the drama in fiorentina and the drama at home over utd. This team is very good and in a one game show down i truly believe they can beat any of the sides remaining. As we all know its very hard to repeat and although Barca look on course i think Inter will disrupt that route and that will pave the way for Louis Van Gaal's side.


    Bayern Munich to win the CL +499 - thats my play
    I completely agree
    Barca play best soccer in the world at the moment but they are too obvious (as you said) and none team won CL twice in a row.
    Inter can overtake them and meet with Bayern in the final.
    Chances Inter/Bayern are even for me. The question is whether Bayern still have their luck?
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    • Giuvara
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      • 03-15-10
      • 873

      #37
      Bayern will reach the final and they will meet Barca there.I think the game will look a lot like the Euro 2008 final,Spain-Germany.Barca have Xavi to guide them,Valdes,Puyol,Iniesta in common with the European champions,+ Messi or Zlatan for composure,while,compared to the German national team, Bayern are much better on the wings,in poorer form of the attackers,have van Bommel in stead of Ballack(less creativity more defensive strength),but are much weaker in the defense(they tottaly lack a left back,poor Badstuber couldn't handle Valencia,imagine him against Messi!) and in goalie department.Barca will win.
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      • tailmypicks
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        • 11-09-09
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        #38
        bayern getting past lyon is no guarantee. Robben and ribery are glass players and they miss every other match. Without them everyone knows what kind of team they are.
        Baba-e-qaum ne farmaya, too chal me aya
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        • RedDevil11
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          • 01-18-10
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          #39
          Originally posted by Goat Milk
          Man U is definitely not better than Arsenal when Arsenal is at full strength. You cannot compare Man U's pieces to what Arsenal has.

          Fabregas, Van Persie, Archavin is as good a trio as you'll find in the CL. We don't know how healthy these guys are going to be, but if they were at full strength, with the leadership of Gallas, Nasri, and Walcott one of the most explosive subs off the bench, they can certainly contend.

          Barca is obviously the favorite, and if they win it, and Argentina can make it somewhat deep into the WC, Messi will without a doubt repeat as the Fifa player of the year. Even if you contain/harrass messi for an entire game, Barca has a limitless amount of players that can step up and get the job done. Ibrahimovic is one of the best strikers in the world (even though I hate him), coupled with a top 3 midfielder in the world in Xavi, a top 10 wing player in Inesta, a top 3 defender in the world in Pulyo, the leadership and streakiness of Henry, and obviously the best player in the world.

          Bayern has a solid team, who know how to play together, and distribute the ball. Their defenders are solid, nothing special. Demichelis and Lahm are good players. Their are no selfish players on this team, and that's one reason why they have a solid chance. How much is Ribery's incentive to leave Buyern going to be a distraction? Also, it really comes down to who is going to play who. Buyern can expose certain teams with Ribery and Robben on the wings, but if they played Barca down the road, there's no doubt in my mind that they'd lose. You can say that they can strategize this and that, and come up with this plan, or get creative, but in the end, it's all about execution. And your best chance to execute is to have world-class footballers and veterans on the pitch.
          Not sure how you figure that? United did the double over Arsenal this year and wiped them off their own pitch so to say they are definitely better than United doesn't hold much water. They may have more talented players, but not 'better' players suited for the EPL. All of Arsenal's players are of the same mould, talented they are, but they're all young, small in stature and play similar styles (ie. Fabregas, Arshavin, Walcott, Nasri, Eduardo, Ramsay, Merida..etc). They only know one style of play really. To win league titles in the EPL, as they have shown in the past, you also need some experienced players, players with some size who can win the physical battles, players that will get under the skins of others and intimidate, players like Keown, Bergkamp, Vieira and Adams that the Gunners used to have when they were winning titles. It's how United and Chelsea have been able to push Arsenal around the pitch. They've done well with what they have, but they need a bit more balance.

          Anyhow, to the thread question, no I don't think Barcelona will lose to Bayern if these clubs meet in the finals. Someone already mentioned their poor defense; they are slow and will not be able to handle the speed of Barca. Barca is so clinical, they'll have so much possession and Bayern's only chance will be on the counter. Can't see Bayern winning this especially with the final in Spain. How sweet it would be for Barca to win the CL in Madrid's own park. Ouch!
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          • traxmub
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            • 01-25-10
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            #40
            Now Barcelona is the best team. Bayern hasnt chance
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            • nbaprofosor
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              • 01-22-10
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              #41
              no way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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              • the tipster
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                • 03-30-10
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                #42
                bayern will lose to lyon
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                • jumbomet
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                  • 04-08-10
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                  #43
                  bayern have to get their injury prone wingers ready first
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                  • noel83
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                    • 01-08-10
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                    #44
                    Bayern without one beetween Ribery and Robben lose 50% of his potential
                    so it's too eraly for me
                    I think they can get the final, but against Inter or Barça there's no game
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                    • Sanka
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                      • 03-29-10
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                      #45
                      "Soccer is a game for 22 people that run around, play the ball, and one referee who makes a slew of mistakes, and in the end the Germans always win." Gary Lineker

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                      • kmarinouofm
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                        • 01-26-09
                        • 8437

                        #46
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        and then he scores 4 goals against Arsenal a team that is of the same caliber as Man U..


                        STOP bro - man u is much better than arsenal





                        The thing most arent looking at is that Bayern will make the final and then its a one off. Anything can happen in one game. Barca havent beaten a good squad yet.

                        How is it that two teams from the same league.. with very similar playing styles...with very similar histories and players.. which by the way are only 1 pt apart in EPL.. (and aresenal 3 pts off the leader Chelsea) ..

                        How is it that you can argue that they not of the same caliber??

                        Maybe u haven't had your coffee yet? Or just haven't been watching EPL enough through the years..

                        Kara - I need a lawyer.. Tell this guy Arsenal and Man U are of the same caliber.. maybe Man u is better.. but to say they aren't of the same caliber is just silly my friend
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                        • kmarinouofm
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Sanka
                          "Soccer is a game for 22 people that run around, play the ball, and one referee who makes a slew of mistakes, and in the end the Germans always win." Gary Lineker

                          hands down one of my favorite quotes!!!
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                          • JOHON8
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                            • 01-28-10
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                            #48
                            I like this Bayern to win bet, but I'm not betting on it.

                            Bayern have a genius coach and the ability to control games. If you watched last nights match you'd see, even though United were down to 10 men, how much confidence/patience and dominance Bayern had on the ball. This team is a legendary European side and has a legitimate chance to win.

                            My prediction is they get to the final and get punished by Barca for not being able to score a well crafted goal.
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                            • Shark79
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                              • 11-19-07
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                              #49
                              I believe in streaks, Bayern has proven that they are sitting in one for CL, so yes, I would also put some money on Bayern to win it all.
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94463

                                #50
                                Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                How is it that two teams from the same league.. with very similar playing styles...with very similar histories and players.. which by the way are only 1 pt apart in EPL.. (and aresenal 3 pts off the leader Chelsea) ..

                                How is it that you can argue that they not of the same caliber??

                                Maybe u haven't had your coffee yet? Or just haven't been watching EPL enough through the years..

                                Kara - I need a lawyer.. Tell this guy Arsenal and Man U are of the same caliber.. maybe Man u is better.. but to say they aren't of the same caliber is just silly my friend
                                Guy I have been watching the english top flite since 1986. Arsenal have some great players and have a good side and I am a huge arsenal supporter. Did you not see the match that arsenal played at home with man u? Was that a team that is in man u calibre? They got polished in all aspects of the match and the same thing happened when the blues came in. The standings are good but be realistic man u is a better side and can cope with injuries better cause they have better players. Don't fool yourself arsenal aren't that good.
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                                • kmarinouofm
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                                  • 01-26-09
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                                  #51
                                  i agree that man u is a better team.. but arsenal is still of the same caliber.. they can still beat and hang with Man U on any given day.. don't be me wrong i agree with you 100% man u is better.. but u are saying they aren't even in the same ballpark? idk man
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                                  • Skyline
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                                    • 11-30-09
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                                    #52
                                    It's pretty possible if Inter qualifies to the final (This is also possible, Messi is a great team however Inter has Mourinho, he knows how to lock a player). BUT if Messi qualifies to the final, I don't believe Munchen gets the cup.


                                    EDIT; This is a cursory comment. Everything can happen in all sports. Please don't argue pointless.
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                                    • kmarinouofm
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                                      • 01-26-09
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                                      #53
                                      well said skyline
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                                      • Skyline
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                                        • 11-30-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        Barca look too obvious and i believe they will go out to Inter. Bayern is in the final already- lyon is wasting there time. Bayern is a team of destiny. There unlikely key goals up to now have convinced me they will take it all. Teams dont go down 3-0 at Old Trafford and score 2 goals and go thru. Bayern also had the drama in fiorentina and the drama at home over utd. This team is very good and in a one game show down i truly believe they can beat any of the sides remaining. As we all know its very hard to repeat and although Barca look on course i think Inter will disrupt that route and that will pave the way for Louis Van Gaal's side.


                                        Bayern Munich to win the CL +499 - thats my play
                                        I made a comment on this subject before but I noticed that you underestimate Lyon a little. I see Lyon a lil more advantageous in semi final game. It's not about teams strenghts, we can't compare their power in a semi final game but the trends will most likely be decisive just like Lyon-Real Madrid and Man. Utd.-Munich games. And the trend is Lyon's favour.

                                        Lyon is famous with their annoying and slow soccer mentality which is Munich doesn't like and the first leg is in Munich, that brings Lyon the chance of getting a draw in Munich and qualify in their home court silently. The key point is Lyon was able to defence C. Ronaldo, Higuain (May be the best striker in the world right now), Kaka, Guti and more even if they played really serious. You might say Lyon had luck in Madrid game and I'm ok with this however Lyon's defence is more strict than Man. Utd. for that kind of games and Claude Puel (Head coach) will have some precautions about Ribery and Robben that Ferguson did not care much. This write-up is not for a discussion but as a Lyon fan I can't stand that you fade them before they play. I have many reason to prove that Lyon may also qualify but I know you trust the edge that Bayern had after Man. Utd. game.

                                        Don't forget that Lyon is also happy to face Bayern Munich and they will also play for the final in Barnebau which may the biggest dream of the Lyon's current squad.

                                        I repeat I don't argue with you. I just wanted to say that Lyon is also a big club. Wish you good luck my cash-machine friend.
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                                        • TurkzZ
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                                          • 01-07-09
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                                          #55
                                          i wish munich wud play Altintop more instead of Bastian
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                                          • AsRequested
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                                            • 09-22-09
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                                            #56
                                            They play on completely different positions and Schweinsteiger is one of the leaders inside the team now.

                                            @OP:
                                            Bayern will probably learn from the tons of defensive mistakes they made and vs. Lyon they have a huge chance to advance to the final, where they could def. win against barca...
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                                            • Dark Horse
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                                              • 12-14-05
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                                              #57
                                              Lyon is the most dangerous 'outsider'. Of course, this deep into the competition they're not an outsider, but because they're new to the European top they aren't viewed as serious contenders. They are for real. They could win this. They are the most amazing success story in European soccer over the last 20 years.
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                                              • dachx
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                                                • 02-15-10
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                                                #58
                                                Inter - Bayern final ; )
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                                                • psv777ua
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                                                  #59
                                                  Inter win
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                                                  • tailmypicks
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                                                    #60
                                                    barca looks too obvious, wont happen
                                                    Baba-e-qaum ne farmaya, too chal me aya
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                                                    • BetfairUser
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                                                      • 03-27-10
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                                                      #61
                                                      lol there's no thing such as "too obvious" in football, barca are going to win.
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                                                      • Tommy_de1st
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                                                        • 02-23-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        Do you think they gonna change "the rule" that any team in the world have never won CL twice in a row?
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                                                        • Dark Horse
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Tommy_de1st
                                                          Do you think they gonna change "the rule" that any team in the world have never won CL twice in a row?
                                                          That's only true if you want to specifically separate the relatively new CL from the Europa Cup 1. The trend has no value. The sample size is very small, it is data-mined (because separate from EC-1), and it will only be true until it no longer is (which is just a matter of time). It's the type of stuff tv analysts use to make their program a little more interesting. Useless for gamblers.
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                                                          • stomptheboard
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                                                            • 04-05-10
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                                                            #64
                                                            no chance for any other side, barca will do the double again
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                                                            • mihaita666
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                                                              • 09-13-09
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                                                              #65
                                                              I think in the next 15 years, Barcelona will get very close to Real Madrid when we talk about UCL trophies.
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                                                              • Yabatumba
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                                                                • 12-29-08
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by TurkzZ
                                                                i wish munich wud play Altintop more instead of Bastian
                                                                Of course you do, you're clearly a Turk, no.
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                                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by RedDevil11

                                                                  Not sure how you figure that? United did the double over Arsenal this year and wiped them off their own pitch so to say they are definitely better than United doesn't hold much water. They may have more talented players, but not 'better' players suited for the EPL. All of Arsenal's players are of the same mould, talented they are, but they're all young, small in stature and play similar styles (ie. Fabregas, Arshavin, Walcott, Nasri, Eduardo, Ramsay, Merida..etc). They only know one style of play really. To win league titles in the EPL, as they have shown in the past, you also need some experienced players, players with some size who can win the physical battles, players that will get under the skins of others and intimidate, players like Keown, Bergkamp, Vieira and Adams that the Gunners used to have when they were winning titles. It's how United and Chelsea have been able to push Arsenal around the pitch. They've done well with what they have, but they need a bit more balance.
                                                                  Nasri, Gallas aren't experienced players? And what is this theory that you need to have players that get under the opposer's skin to win titles? Who on Barca get's under your skin/those fiesty sort of players your talking about? ONLY 1 PLAYER ON ALL OF BARCA CAN BE CHARACTERIZED AS SUCH, and that is Carlos Puyol. Every other player on Barca is offensive oriented/play based on speed, even including their db's alves and abidal. Toure is pretty tough, Marquez, but they're not really that fiesty breed your talking about like Viera. Puyol is the only one.

                                                                  You win titles with playmakers on your team. Man U has limited playmakers, Rooney rarely creates for others, Nani is probably Man U's best playmaker. Bayern has limited playmakers. Therefore, I don't see how either of these teams can compete with Barca.
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                                                                  • TurkzZ
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Yabatumba

                                                                    Of course you do, you're clearly a Turk, no.


                                                                    Bayern and Inter have the better managers, could be the difference in the end.
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                                                                    • SRBI
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JOHON8
                                                                      I like this Bayern to win bet, but I'm not betting on it.

                                                                      Bayern have a genius coach and the ability to control games. If you watched last nights match you'd see, even though United were down to 10 men, how much confidence/patience and dominance Bayern had on the ball. This team is a legendary European side and has a legitimate chance to win.

                                                                      My prediction is they get to the final and get punished by Barca for not being able to score a well crafted goal.
                                                                      What he said

                                                                      But disagree slightly and think Ivica Olic will make a suprise for Bayern, lets see how it breaks down
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                                                                      • Domestic
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        As much as I don't like Barcelona I just can't see teams defending well enough against them.
                                                                        Will ber very surprised if Barcelona don't win.
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