Papa John's to raise pizza prices if 'Obamacare' survives: CEO

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  • ttwarrior1
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    • 06-23-09
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    Papa John's to raise pizza prices if 'Obamacare' survives: CEO
    Get ready to pay more for your Papa John’s pizza if "Obamacare" goes into full effect … a whopping 15 to 20 cents more.
    John Schnatter, chief executive of the pizza chain, is bashingPresident Obama’s healthcare reform law as a policy that will force the company to choose between its customers and its investors.
    And if the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act rolls out as planned in 2014, Schnatter’s strategy is “of course … to pass that cost on the consumer in order to protect our shareholders’ best interest,” he said in a recent conference call.
    Schnatter estimates that the legislation will cost Papa John’s about 11 cents to 14 cents per pizza, which equates to 15 cents to 20 cents per order. An average delivery charge runs $1.75 to $2.50.
    “We're not supportive of Obamacare like most businesses in our industry but our business model and unit economics are about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare,” Schnatter said. “Ergo, we have a high ticket average with extremely high frequency of order counts, millions of pizzas per year.”
    On Twitter, reactions were mostly negative.
    "*switches to Pizza Hut*," wrote one user. "*calls Dominoes*," wrote another.
    "I really wish businesses would stay out of politics," tweeted user mikedavis824.
    Papa John’s has nearly 4,000 restaurants in its system operating in every state and in 33 countries. Net income for the second quarter, which ended June 24, rose 22.3% to $14.8 million, or 61 cents a share, from $12.1 million, or 47 cents a share a year earlier. Same-store sales soared 5.7% in North America.
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    The National Restaurant Assn. has criticized the healthcare legislation for having a chilling effect on expansion and hiring in the industry, which tends to be labor-intensive and burdened with thin margins.
    Chains such as White Castle and Burger King have predicted surging costs due to the new regulations, which require businesses with 50 or more full-time employees to offer healthcare to such workers and their dependents.
    Unsurprisingly, Papa John’s chief is a big fan of Mitt Romney. Schnatter recently even hosted a private fundraiser for the Republican presidential candidate at his mansion in Anchorage, Ky.
    Romney was dazzled by the grounds, declaring to guests:
    “Who would’ve imagined pizza could build this. This is really something. Don’t you love this country? What a home this is, what grounds these are, the pool, the golf course…. This is a real tribute to America, to entrepreneurship."
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #2
    yep, a whole 14 cents

    Gotta give it to the media to really find the hard stories
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    • Terrapin Station
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      • 01-05-10
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      #3
      exactly what i was thinking brock...
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      • BiffTFinancial
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-29-09
        • 22670

        #4
        John Schnatter is a cancer merchant. I'm spending my extra 14 cents on Chewlies (R) gum.
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        • bb_skoots
          SBR MVP
          • 05-04-11
          • 1088

          #5
          He is practically doing an ad for Obamacare. Fourteen cents?
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          • Grits n' Gravy
            Restricted User
            • 06-10-10
            • 13024

            #6
            Waahhh!!! Big friggin deal. You live with your mom you tub of goo. Get a paper route to make up the difference.
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            • Chi_archie
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              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              fok that shit

              last foking straw


              MOVE TO IMPEACH!!!!
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              • Hotdiggity11
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                • 01-09-09
                • 4916

                #8
                So, I pay about $.15 more for a pizza to know some Papa Johns deliveryman won't get injured, go to the hospital, get charged 6-digits for the services, not be able to pay it, and then cause me to pay significantly more in medical costs in the future to compensate for his lack of insurance?


                I'll take it.
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                • texhooper
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 10001

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                  John Schnatter is a cancer merchant. I'm spending my extra 14 cents on Chewlies (R) gum.
                  you get an a+ for your reference. no one's gonna give you credit, but i will. i've been spending all day trying to find the perfect egg and this is the best thing i've seen all day...a chewlies gum reference.

                  by the way, papa johns should realize they can make better pizzas for less money easily. the highest food cost markup in the food industry is pizza. i don't know this for a fact, but i challenge anyone to find a food/dish/etc that has a higher markup than pizza.

                  so i say go fukk yourself in the ass with the handle of a pizza slicer when i hear some fast food pizza empressario talk about passing along costs to the customer for any reason. fukk you papa john, you fukking lowlife gazillionaire.
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                  • texhooper
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 10001

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hotdiggity11
                    So, I pay about $.15 more for a pizza to know some Papa Johns deliveryman won't get injured, go to the hospital, get charged 6-digits for the services, not be able to pay it, and then cause me to pay significantly more in medical costs in the future to compensate for his lack of insurance?


                    I'll take it.
                    i don't think they have insurance for anyone other than managers, maybe some other full time employees if there even are any, but most of their employees are part time and aren't offered insurance. it's a fukking ruse. fukk papa john. wah, we don't like obama, look what he's making us do, now everyone who orders from us will have to pay! it's bullshit.
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                    • texhooper
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                      • 01-05-09
                      • 10001

                      #11
                      i delivered pizzas for them for like 2 months 7 or 8 years ago and i don't remember any healthcare benefits being discussed. brock might have a better answer there though.
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                      • Terrapin Station
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                        • 01-05-10
                        • 2583

                        #12
                        Originally posted by texhooper
                        you get an a+ for your reference. no one's gonna give you credit, but i will. i've been spending all day trying to find the perfect egg and this is the best thing i've seen all day...a chewlies gum reference.

                        by the way, papa johns should realize they can make better pizzas for less money easily. the highest food cost markup in the food industry is pizza. i don't know this for a fact, but i challenge anyone to find a food/dish/etc that has a higher markup than pizza.

                        so i say go fukk yourself in the ass with the handle of a pizza slicer when i hear some fast food pizza empressario talk about passing along costs to the customer for any reason. fukk you papa john, you fukking lowlife gazillionaire.
                        pasta has a higher markup.
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                        • minet123
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                          • 02-17-07
                          • 10280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by texhooper
                          . the highest food cost markup in the food industry is pizza. i don't know this for a fact, but i challenge anyone to find a food/dish/etc that has a higher markup than pizza.
                          Water Ice(Italian ice )
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                          • Inspirited
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                            • 06-26-10
                            • 1789

                            #14
                            prices probably will go up on everything you buy

                            that adds up
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                            • texhooper
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                              • 01-05-09
                              • 10001

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Terrapin Station
                              pasta has a higher markup.
                              ok, as far as fast food goes...i will amend my statement. we're still high up on the chain here when to comes to pizza. and they sell thousands and thousands of pizzas all the damn time. in one store, the goal is like 25 grand on a saturday night. think about the fact that papa johns is all over the world. plus they aren't insuring everyone by a longshot that works for them. etc etc fukk papa johns.
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                              • texhooper
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-05-09
                                • 10001

                                #16
                                Originally posted by minet123
                                Water Ice(Italian ice )
                                fair enough, but water ice isn't sold at near the rate pizza is. plus i was talking about like, meal foods, but i get what you're saying.
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                                • Terrapin Station
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-05-10
                                  • 2583

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by texhooper
                                  ok, as far as fast food goes...i will amend my statement. we're still high up on the chain here when to comes to pizza. and they sell thousands and thousands of pizzas all the damn time. in one store, the goal is like 25 grand on a saturday night. think about the fact that papa johns is all over the world. plus they aren't insuring everyone by a longshot that works for them. etc etc fukk papa johns.
                                  far enough, just replying to your original statement. pasta and soda have massive markups. completely agree with you on pizza markup though, it's a hard fact.
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                                  • texhooper
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                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 10001

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Terrapin Station
                                    far enough, just replying to your original statement. pasta and soda have massive markups. completely agree with you on pizza markup though, it's a hard fact.
                                    right, soda is insane, drinks in general really. and that is one area that a pizza delivery place misses out on.

                                    the point really is that they're only insuring a small percentage of their workers and they are in an industry that makes massive amounts of money in pure profit on a worldwide level.
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                                    • minet123
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-17-07
                                      • 10280

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by texhooper
                                      fair enough, but water ice isn't sold at near the rate pizza is. plus i was talking about like, meal foods, but i get what you're saying.
                                      but you can't find water ice out side of the mid Atlantic(except for some variations-shaved ice etc)
                                      I was just answering your question
                                      as to your point
                                      Pizza is pure profit
                                      water
                                      yeast
                                      flour
                                      cheese
                                      tomatoes
                                      that 8 slices for what a roughly a dollar in cost at the restaurant level
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                                      • texhooper
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 10001

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Inspirited
                                        prices probably will go up on everything you buy

                                        that adds up
                                        i don't know as much about obamacare as i should. and this may be true. but for some employer who hires almost entirely part time and "paid by tips" employees to publicly complain about it and state prices will go up is just wrong. i think it has more to do with his political views than anything else.
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                                        • texhooper
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                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 10001

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by minet123
                                          but you can't find water ice out side of the mid Atlantic(except for some variations-shaved ice etc)
                                          I was just answering your question

                                          as to your point
                                          Pizza is pure profit water yeast flourcheese tomatoes
                                          that 8 slices for what a roughly a dollar in cost at the restaurant level
                                          right, and you had a good answer. but if a local water ice stand had 4 full time employees and paid them benefits, i would listen to him if he had no choice but to up his prices because healthcare was just going to kill him otherwise. i'm not listening to asshole papa john.
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                                          • lunchbawks
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                                            • 01-31-10
                                            • 12873

                                            #22
                                            my 20x winner gets salooned and this doesn't....
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                                            • ChalkyDog
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                                              • 10-02-11
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                                              #23
                                              TT, it is literally hard to try and correlate food and politics, but if anyone could do it - it would be you.

                                              Any other breaking news regarding fast food?
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                                              • muldoon
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-04-10
                                                • 4397

                                                #24
                                                Sounds like a fantastic way to hike delivery prices and shift the blame.
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                                                • LarrysKid
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                                                  • 03-17-10
                                                  • 258

                                                  #25
                                                  The real issue here is that Papa John's has somehow convinced people to give them money for their product.
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                                                  • lunchbawks
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                                                    • 01-31-10
                                                    • 12873

                                                    #26
                                                    america just gets worse and worse. there's a whole world out there and yall are talking about this
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                                                    • Dutch
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                                                      • 09-21-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Am I reading this right, the insurance law will cost Papa Johns $.11 to $.14 cents per pizza and they're going to raise their prices $.15-$.20 cents...They'll recieve an extra $.4-$.6 cents profit per pizza?
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                                                      • chipper
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                                                        • 01-07-10
                                                        • 1994

                                                        #28
                                                        Don't really care as I don't like Papa John's pizza anyway. They could lower their prices and I still wouldn't want it.
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                                                        • freeagent
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-06-10
                                                          • 942

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LarrysKid
                                                          The real issue here is that Papa John's has somehow convinced people to give them money for their product.
                                                          Stuff is dreadful, even tried to get the chicken fingers once and it was worse than the pizza. Colbert Report had a hilarious segment on this issue last night.
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                                                          • mikejamm
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 08-24-09
                                                            • 11047

                                                            #30
                                                            Another fuk'in millionaire bitch'in because he's gett'in a tax incentive to cover health care for his employees and whining about having to raise the cost of pizza 14 cents! Just like some whiny little Romney loving asshole to complain about giving something back to the country that made his ass a success. Fuk him and his shitty pizza!
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                                                            • Emily_Haines
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-14-09
                                                              • 15917

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mikejamm
                                                              Another fuk'in millionaire bitch'in because he's gett'in a tax incentive to cover health care for his employees and whining about having to raise the cost of pizza 14 cents! Just like some whiny little Romney loving asshole to complain about giving something back to the country that made his ass a success. Fuk him and his shitty pizza!
                                                              Clown lives in a 40 room mansion with a huge pool and a staff that caters to his every whim. Looks like a total prick crying that he won't make as much money. Fuk him and his shitty pizza's.
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                                                              • The Inevitable
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                                                                • 05-02-10
                                                                • 773

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by LarrysKid
                                                                The real issue here is that Papa John's has somehow convinced people to give them money for their product.
                                                                I know, right. Their pizza taste like trash and their crust is even worst. I swear they make their crust out of tree bark. It's tough to chew and sharp as hell. I do not understand why people like Papa John's pizza. Frozen pizza from the grocery store, like Digiorno's, taste better and is cheaper than that cardboard-with-cheese they call pizza.
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                                                                • Fang-Banger
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                                                                  • 10-04-10
                                                                  • 2805

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I used to be a huuuuuge dominos guy but ever since they changed their pizza to try and be more Italian authentic it sucked! I switched to papa john's. I just grew to love their pizza I guess. But I miss the old dominos ingredients
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                                                                  • nosniboR11
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                                                                    • 09-02-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Dumb ass liberals
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                                                                    • Emily_Haines
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                                                                      • 04-14-09
                                                                      • 15917

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                                      Dumb ass liberals
                                                                      how did the election work out for mccain and palin? them two about as dumb as they come.
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