Why do these idiots assume if more people were armed theyd never see mass shootings?

[Chi_archie]

Think back to the Hollywood Bank robbery shootout where the robbers were heavily armed and covered in body armor, it took the fuckin SWAT team 44 minutes to stop them in broad daylight

that is because they have to follow protocol and the "book"

well I have a "book" too....it's titled "Going Rogue, doing anything necessary to kill a Mutha Foker and 75 great recipes using Egg Plant" Illustrations by Alyssa Avondale Forward by George Takei

yeah, so I'd not just do the legal protocol shit in a situation like the hollywood bank robberies..


for instance I might call brock landers and kill him myself and wear his body/skin and pizza delivery outfit and walk up to the robbers, whom are no doubt famished and say

'hey anyone order a large.....CASKET! and throw my 1.5 inch ninja throwing stars into their eyeballs and through their brains

[bettilimbroke999]

Are all mass shootings in a pitch black movie theatre?

What kind of idiot would argue this point? Saloon this garbage.

Forget the pitch black theater who gives a **** that's just an added problem in eyesight they had in Colorado, somewhere else it would be replaced with some other problem like they didnt know where the shooter was at or something and ended up shooting anyone they saw with a gun and killing all the other John Waynes in the process who knows, the point is that if more ppl were armed more of these mass shooters would just purchase body armor that they cant shoot through

[bettilimbroke999]

that is because they have to follow protocol and the "book"

well I have a "book" too....it's titled "Going Rogue, doing anything necessary to kill a Mutha Foker and 75 great recipes using Egg Plant" Illustrations by Alyssa Avondale Forward by George Takei

yeah, so I'd not just do the legal protocol shit in a situation like the hollywood bank robberies..


for instance I might call brock landers and kill him myself and wear his body/skin and pizza delivery outfit and walk up to the robbers, whom are no doubt famished and say

'hey anyone order a large.....CASKET! and throw my 1.5 inch ninja throwing stars into their eyeballs and through their brains

Well admittedly this would work and just for the record Ive got the land on the fat dude to avoid injury as I jump the ledge stored in my memory in case some nut shoots up the theater when I go to see DKR tonight

[bettilimbroke999]

How average US citizen with a CCW views himself



How heavily armed homicidal maniac clad in head to toe body armor views them

[xraygord]

I would imagine that people wouldn't walk into a room full of people and shoot the place up if they knew their targets were packing.

People pick targets because they know its a bunch of unarmed people

Uh no, if you know they are packing you just plan for that. Doesn't stop people from shooting one another sorry.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What I think is funny is that so many of you think you could have saved the day bc you see em do it every time in the movies, give me a fuckin break you would be shitting your fuckin pants if someone opened up on the crowd in a pitch black smoke filled room and the idea youd pull off some hero shot to the face through a fukin crowd of ppl running for their lives in pitch black smoke with your life on the line just shows how deluded you are, most of you ***** couldnt hit a target at 20 feet with a Glock at the gun range much less when you're shitting yourself under nonstop rifle fire, u ***** would just get off a few rounds and hit a few innocent ppl before you got executed

Basically you either get the **** out of that theater or die trying...PERIOD!

Who said anyone thinks they're going to "save the day?"

You have some twisted logic. I think I have a better chance if I'm armed in that situation as opposed to not. If you don't think so, well, you're a moron. The fact that you think body armor makes bullets just bounce off of someone like nothing happened shows your ignorance in the first place.

If I'm armed, it doesn't even mean that I would necessarily shoot a single round. If I could escape without confrontation, that'd obviously be the best course of action. But obviously, not everyone could.

And most people with concealed carry spend enough time at the range to be decent shots.

[stevenash]

Straying off topic a bit, take a look at the crime stats of open carry states, and compare those stats to the states before and after the open carry law went into affect.

[ShawNee922]

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[bettilimbroke999]

Who said anyone thinks they're going to "save the day?"

You have some twisted logic. I think I have a better chance if I'm armed in that situation as opposed to not. If you don't think so, well, you're a moron. The fact that you think body armor makes bullets just bounce off of someone like nothing happened shows your ignorance in the first place.

If I'm armed, it doesn't even mean that I would necessarily shoot a single round. If I could escape without confrontation, that'd obviously be the best course of action. But obviously, not everyone could.

And most people with concealed carry spend enough time at the range to be decent shots.

I want you to understand something sir, body armor absorbs the impacts of .38 and .40 caliber bullets and turns them into medium/hard punches depending on distance (now if you're talking about rifle fire which no one in the theater would have had that is a much harder punch with bruising and or vest penetration) and in a pitch black room your muzzle fire would show exactly where you were, whether you would make contact with the target at all from long range in a pitch black smoke filled theater with people running your line of sight the whole time while pissing your pants fearing for your life is highly in question as well but a long range shot with a .38 into bulletproof armor would do almost nothing to slow a homicidal maniac.

Watch the Hollywood bank shootout, literally over a 1000 rounds (far more than the 6 in my .38 or 14 in my Glock and I certainly wouldnt have both on me to go watch a movie) most of rifle fire capable of piercing the body armor were fired at the 2 suspects in broad daylight....and the result? It took 44 mins to bring one suspect down and about 40 for the other to commit suicide by self-inflicted gunshot wound and this is up against an entire SWAT team with weapons capable of piercing body armor and wearing they're own body armor bc guess what nonstop semiauto rifle fire that you know is going to kill you if hit is a difficult thing to pretend to be John Wayne against and in the theater you have NEITHER the guns nor the armor the SWAT team had.

It is 20x more likely you pulling out your gun would result in an increase in the death toll rather than a decrease

Here is a clip with a .38 being shot from a couple feet away into a bulletproof vest in the 1950s...bulletproof armor has come along way in the past 60 years but this should give u some idea of what your .38 at 20 feet would do if by some miracle you made contact

[MonkeyF0cker]

Uhh. What does a .45 do?

Who the fukk carries a god damn .38? Why do you keep saying that? Jesus Christ. This ain't the 1940's and I'm not Humphrey Bogart.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Also, have you ever fired a shot while you're "getting punched?" Easy. Right?

My ENTIRE POINT was that I'd have a BETTER CHANCE armed than not. You can't refute it so you just keep saying the same stupid shit.

[bettilimbroke999]

Also, have you ever fired a shot while you're "getting punched?" Easy. Right?

My ENTIRE POINT was that I'd have a BETTER CHANCE armed than not. You can't refute it so you just keep saying the same stupid shit.

I hope you pull out your slightly higher caliber .45 and shoot the next time this happens just so I wont have to read your idiotic posts anymore. Cops carry the .40 cal Glock 23 that I own, I suppose they are living in the 1950s as well, very few CCW a caliber greater than .40 but it would make no difference as the body armor of today is capable of stopping a rifle shot

[MonkeyF0cker]

I hope you pull out your slightly higher caliber .45 and shoot the next time this happens just so I wont have to read your idiotic posts anymore. Cops carry the .40 cal Glock 23 that I own, I suppose they are living in the 1950s as well, very few CCW a caliber greater than .40 but it would make no difference as the body armor of today is capable of stopping a rifle shot

Can you not fukking read? Since when is a .40 equal to .38?

What states don't allow .45 for CCW? Are you fukking retarded?

Yes, body armor can stop rifle rounds. Big fukkin deal. Do you know what stopping power is, genius? You wear a vest. I'll shoot you with my .45. Then, when you get off the ground, tell me how little you felt it.

And all of this YET AGAIN has what to do with having a BETTER CHANCE than NOT CARRYING?

Eagerly awaiting the same response that you've made 27 times in this thread.

[bettilimbroke999]

Yes you would have a much better chance of blowing someones brains out that is running for the lives from 20 feet away (beyond the range of any type of effective accuracy at a gun range much less when you're repeatedly shitting your pants under constant fire from an AR-15 in the midst of a panicked crowd) with a .45 than knocking the shooter back for a second...if you were lucky enough to make contact before being killed perhaps you would temporarily distract the shooter from executing unarmed ppl for a couple seconds before he executed u so Im sure theyd appreciate your efforts but this would be about a 5 sec distraction prior to continuing the executions

In reality the only thing they say lowered the death toll to 12 instead of a 100 was his AR jammed up

The video I showed you was inferior body armor with a .38 from 3-4 feet away and the guy barely even bumped backwards, do you really think a .45 from 20-30 feet is going to blow this guy off his feet, watch the Hollywood bank shootout and youll see a guy being hit simultaneously with 100s of rounds of rifle shot without flinching

[bettilimbroke999]

Here is a .40 being shot multiple times from 1-2 feet away, yes watch the guy just fall back on the ground

[MonkeyF0cker]

Yeah. A .45 hollow point would only "knock the shooter back for a second."

You're an idiot.

[MonkeyF0cker]

WHAT THE FUKK DO YOU NOT COMPREHEND ABOUT DIFFERENCES IN CALIBER?!?!?!?!?! YOU GODDAMN MORON!

Anyone with any fukking knowledge of firearms would carry a .45 AT A MINIMUM.

[bettilimbroke999]

Uhh. What does a .45 do?

Who the fukk carries a god damn .38? Why do you keep saying that? Jesus Christ. This ain't the 1940's and I'm not Humphrey Bogart.

Also just for the record a .38 is one of the most popular CCWs made, use your brain retard, most ppl arent expecting to have to defend themselves against a guy in full body armor

[MonkeyF0cker]

Also just for the record a .38 is one of the most popular CCWs made, use your brain retard, most ppl arent expecting to have to defend themselves against a guy in full body armor

LMAO. So, you have NO IDEA AT ALL what stopping power is then? Huh? Show me stats about MOST PEOPLE carrying a .38, fukking moron. Right after you show me one fukking state that doesn't allow .45 for concealed carry.

End of the conversation.

You've cemented yourself as the biggest moron on the planet. Get back to posting some more fixes.

[bettilimbroke999]

LMAO. So, you have NO IDEA AT ALL what stopping power is then? Huh? Show me stats about MOST PEOPLE carrying a .38, fukking moron. Right after you show me one fukking state that doesn't allow .45 for concealed carry.

End of the conversation.

You've cemented yourself as the biggest moron on the planet. Get back to posting some more fixes.

Most popular CCW in the world is the Glock 19 9mm, a less powerful gun that either my .38 or Glock 23, so suck a dick moron, your .45 would do nothing but piss the guy off right before he blew ur brains out if he could hit a peanut from 20 feet and that would be the only positive result of the shooting

[revnecro1273]

I would imagine that people wouldn't walk into a room full of people and shoot the place up if they knew their targets were packing.

People pick targets because they know its a bunch of unarmed people

don't think it would be a deterrence at all...same thing can be said about serving life in prison or getting the death penalty...they don't plan something thinking there is absolutely 0 percent chance of getting caught...they do it anyway...so just because people are packing, don't think they would say "well i guess i can't give it a go, because there is a chance i will get shot"...no amount of deterrence that will keep someone from doing something they want to do when they are already beyond the breaking point

[MonkeyF0cker]

Most popular CCW in the world is the Glock 19 9mm, a less powerful gun that either my .38 or Glock 23, so suck a dick moron, your .45 would do nothing but piss the guy off right before he blew ur brains out if he could hit a peanut from 20 feet and that would be the only positive result of the shooting

LMAO. Now 9mm is "less powerful" than .38. LOL.

Biggest. Moron. On. The. Planet.

[bettilimbroke999]

LMAO. Now 9mm is "less powerful" than .38. LOL.

Biggest. Moron. On. The. Planet.

It is, in fact I own 2 guns the .38 S&W (slightly more powerful than the 9 mm but nearly equal so debateable) and Glock 23, I considered the .357 hand cannon but went with the .38 for CCW convenience and overall ease of shooting thought the .357 is more powerful I am very confident that I wouldnt want to be shot with either...however with either gun I would be hoofin it for the exits while you make your stand with your .45 like John Wayne and get buried the next day

[bettilimbroke999]

.38 special is simply a better gun than the 9 mm I dont give a fuk what you say, give me the choice and I'll take the .38 all day long, unfortunately it only has 6 shots that never malfunctions vs your 15 which is liable to jam up and get you killed but if you cant bring down your target in 6 shots you need to start running

[MonkeyF0cker]

however with either gun I would be hoofin it for the exits while you make your stand with your .45 like John Wayne and get buried the next day

Idiot.

If I'm armed, it doesn't even mean that I would necessarily shoot a single round. If I could escape without confrontation, that'd obviously be the best course of action. But obviously, not everyone could.

[MonkeyF0cker]

It is, in fact I own 2 guns the .38 S&W (slightly more powerful than the 9 mm but nearly equal so debateable) and Glock 23, I considered the .357 hand cannon but went with the .38 for CCW convenience and overall ease of shooting thought the .357 is more powerful I am very confident that I wouldnt want to be shot with either...however with either gun I would be hoofin it for the exits while you make your stand with your .45 like John Wayne and get buried the next day

Lookup stopping power between a .38 and a 9mm, moron.

You are absolutely clueless.

[MonkeyF0cker]

.38 special is simply a better gun than the 9 mm I dont give a fuk what you say, give me the choice and I'll take the .38 all day long, unfortunately it only has 6 shots that never malfunctions vs your 15 which is liable to jam up and get you killed but if you cant bring down your target in 6 shots you need to start running

Yeah. Revolvers never malfunction. LMAO.

[bettilimbroke999]

Lookup stopping power between a .38 and a 9mm, moron.

You are absolutely clueless.

I just looked it up and confirmed the .38 special has greater stoppng power than the 9mm, the 9mm and .38 special bullets are of nearly identical diameter, the .38 with a slightly larger diameter with a minute velocity advantage to the 9mm, in real world situations they are nearly equal. It is almost nearly impossible for a quality revolver to malfuncterion, my brand new glock 23 has has at least a couple jams while shooting at the range this is a flaw in all semiautomatic weapons and is the reason the shooters AR-15 jammed up and saved ppls lives

You have no clue son and are outclassed in every way, the good news is that the difference in the 9 mm and .38 specials stopping power is minimal and that standing your ground with either in Colorado would have gotten you killed only Im smart enough to realize that, hopefully id get away while hes executing an idiot like yourself

[MonkeyF0cker]

I just looked it up and confirmed the .38 special has greater stoppng power than the 9mm, the 9mm and .38 special bullets are of nearly identical diameter, the .38 with a slightly larger diameter with a minute velocity advantage to the 9mm, in real world situations they are nearly equal. It is almost nearly impossible for a quality revolver to malfuncterion, my brand new glock 23 has has at least a couple jams while shooting at the range this is a flaw in all semiautomatic weapons and is the reason the shooters AR-15 jammed up and saved ppls lives

You have no clue son and are outclassed in every way, the good news is that the difference in the 9 mm and .38 specials stopping power is minimal and that standing your ground with either in Colorado would have gotten you killed only Im smart enough to realize that, hopefully id get away while hes executing an idiot like yourself

LMAO.

You are a fukking moron.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

9mm = 9x19 since you're that dumb. One shot stop = stopping power since you're that dumb.

[bettilimbroke999]

LMAO.

You are a fukking moron.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

9mm = 9x19 since you're that dumb. One shot stop = stopping power since you're that dumb.

It says the .38special Winchester +P rounds that I buy have a 78% one shot stopping power, theyve got the 9mm in the upper 80s, considering the only available penetration point on the Colorado shooter was dead in his face I doubt the extra 10% would give u an edge

[MonkeyF0cker]

It says the .38special Winchester +P rounds that I buy have a 78% one shot stopping power, theyve got the 9mm in the upper 80s, considering the only available penetration point on the Colorado shooter was dead in his face I doubt the extra 10% would give u an edge

But I thought .38 special is a "more powerful" round than 9mm. I thought you looked it up...

I thought .45's couldn't be carried in most states.

Backtracking much?

I'd also be willing to bet that most of the shooter's arms and along with his hips were exposed as well.

[bettilimbroke999]

But I thought .38 special is a "more powerful" round than 9mm. I thought you looked it up...

I thought .45's couldn't be carried in most states.

Backtracking much?

I'd also be willing to bet that most of the shooter's arms and along with his hips were exposed as well.

They are about equal guns, I own both a .40 Glock and a .38 I prefer my .38 for CCW I dont need a huge ass Glock with a 14 rd magazine just to go to the movies and look like Im tryin to shoot the place up but that's just me, I dont want to attract attention I just want it there when some nice black wants to rob me. I dont have it to stop some psycho with 100 rd drum magazine assault rifles and full body armor, if you encounter that situation I suggest you get to hoofin rather than pull out your .45 and start shooting in the dark in a crowded room hoping to accidently catch the guy in the face but maybe you carry night vision googles, can see through smoke, have nerves of steal and can hit small targets with large caliber handguns at great distances, if so fire away and save everyone

I also never said a .45 was illegal to carry show me where I said that, to me its a little excessive especially for CCW but more power to ya get a .50 if you want and have everyone stare at you while ordering your breakfast at McDs if you want I dont care

[cant call it]

[jer7218]

I have a 9mm Cougar Carry. Dude had an ar-15 with a hundred round drum and body armor on... I would have GTFO asap. 10 Rounds of 9mm against 100 rounds of .223 would not have ended well for me. Unless you got an MP-7 under a trenchcoat you ain't going to do squat against that psychopath, and that's if you don't hit the masses of people running around and in-between you.

[Chimneyfish]

The common factor among these mass shootings that nobody in the news seems to want to point out: none of them were getting laid. Instead of making guns harder to buy, why don't we make hookers easier to buy? No guy who's getting bj's on a regular basis is going to be spending all that time rigging up bombs and being pissed off at the world. Guys need girls around otherwise all that extra time and energy can get dangerous. After a guy has sex all he wants to do is roll over and finish watching Kimmel, not go angrily buy a bunch of chemicals and shit off the internet.