Zimmerman arrested but has a top notch lawyer

[stevenash]

In a nutshell, 911 operators respond to non-emergency and emergency phone calls.
They make a decision based on the call as to which (if any) agency (fire, PD, ambulance,etc) needs to be alerted.
The 911 operator has no power to give a lawful directive, they are pretty much glorified telephone operators.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Look I am no friend of the cops or the law, but I also understand how shit happens and gets blown out of proportion by people. I dont like seeing anyone railroaded by media or social terrorists.

I don't like seeing anyone railroaded as well BUT it is pretty clear that this Zimmerman guy was a hot head looking for a fight. This guy has a history of alcohol abuse and violence. What other reason would he have to go outside and confront the kid other than to start a fight? Think about that? The police was on the way. All he had to do was wait for them to show up. What normal person would call 911 then go outside with a gun unless he wanted to start a fight? If a stranger walks down your street, don't you wait for him to at least walk on your property before you confront him? Who confronts someone walking on the sidewalk???

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...police-officer

Zimmerman accused of domestic violence, fighting with a police officer


Orange County Sheriff's Office
George Zimmerman is pictured in this booking photo taken in July 2005.


By msnbc.com staff
Court documents obtained by msnbc.com on Tuesday evening show that George Zimmerman, who fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, went to court in 2005 and 2006 for accusations of domestic violence, tussling with a police officer and speeding.
The three incidents took place in Orange County, Fla.

• In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

• In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

• In December 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. The case was dismissed when the officer failed to show up in court.

[King Mayan]

You really can't be that stupid, no they are not police officers.

maybe not in your shit town, but if i call 911 in LA, they are police offficers. Police badge and everything.

[Mac4Lyfe]

yeah and the guy that did it had a beat up face and a bashed in head.

Some of his neighbors think that Zimmerman injured himself to make his case look more believable. I think he's guilty as hell. I'd bet money that he was drunk as hell but the police didn't even test him as they were in on the coverup. His own neighbors think he's a hot head and believe he murdered the boy. That's all you really need to know.

[Sam Odom]

@ Mac4Lyfe


dude , you are as worse as the race-baiting posters (whities) with your made-up hearsay stuff

[muldoon]

His own neighbors think he's a hot head and believe he murdered the boy. That's all you really need to know.

Actually no - I'd like to know a lot more.

[teaserpleaser]

Free Zimmerman !!

yes free zimmerman...i dare you.

[stevenash]

maybe not in your shit town, but if i call 911 in LA, they are police offficers. Police badge and everything.

911 operators to have a minimum of a high school diploma or GED equivalent. Certification and licensing will generally require clearances to access databases that serve as reference sources in the performance of the job. This includes state and federal crime databases such as the National Crime Information Center. A course in emergency communication recognized by law enforcement entities is often a requirement as well.

[eidolon]

Are you an idiot? Neighbors have already testified that the cries were from the kid and NOT Zimmerman but the police was trying to change their minds by saying it was Zimmerman. One neighbor said she knows the difference of her neighbors voice and the kid. Please stop posting and showing your ignorance. You obviously also don't know about Sanford Fla? It's notorious for racial profiling. People in the surrounding area are fed up with the police bullshit. If this douchebag goes free there will be retaliation which would be bad for innocent people. I know for a fact that people are plotting a violent response.

And if Zimmerman was black we wouldn't have heard of this because his ass would be in jail.

The only eye witness says they saw a person on the ground wearing a red sweatshirt during the time crys of help were being heard.

[Sam Odom]

The only eye witness says they saw a person on the ground wearing a red sweatshirt during the time crys of help were being heard.

see post #40

[KingJD31]

yes free zimmerman...i dare you.

just called the feds suspect number one now

[bobby heenan]

just another staged incident by the powers that be so they can get everyone in an uproar about gun control...and slowly disarm us and take away our constitutional right.....

It is easy to identify the Jesuits and the Jesuit puppets in the United States Congress, because they are the ones that continually try to get all kinds of laws passed that require exactly the opposite from what the Constitution says. They continually pass laws that restrict the liberty of the citizens of the country. They continually pass laws to regulate every aspect of life in the United States. They continually pass laws that restrict freedom of speech such as the Campaign Finance Reform Act. Incidentally, they always use names for these laws that will sound good to the American people, but rarely indicate what is in the law. They use every means they can to deceive the people of the country.
The Jesuits continually try to pass restrictive gun legislation. The second amendment to the Constitution says, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Every gun law that congress has ever passed is a direct violation of the United States’ Constitution. Because of the crime and terrorism in our country today, and because of the government and media propaganda against guns, people are made to believe that these laws are necessary.
When the citizens of a nation are armed, where their right to own guns is not infringed, the crime rate is extremely low.
Every man in Switzerland, for instance, is required to have guns in his home, including assault rifles. Crime in Switzerland is almost non-existent. In states and cities in America that allow people to carry guns, the crime rate is extremely low.
During World War Two, Hitler wanted to invade Switzerland. The Swiss told him that he could send his army across the border, but none of his officers would return. Hitler gave the order to invade Switzerland several times, but his officers refused to obey. Switzerland remained safely neutral all during the war because Hitler could not overcome the guns in the hands of Swiss private citizens. No dictator wants to be the dictator of a nation with 200 million guns around.
Christians generally do not want to have anything to do with guns, because a Christian would never take the life of another individual. It is not the USE of the guns that keeps the crime rate low; it is just the fact that the guns are there, and the criminals and would-be dictators know that the guns are there. That knowledge keeps them at bay.
In order to motivate the people of the United States to give up their guns, the Jesuits stage shootings periodically to show how “dangerous” guns are. These shootings occur in the most emotional places such as schools where children die. But Waco shows what will happen when only the government has guns. Some 86 children died a torturous death at Waco at the hands of the government.
The USA Patriot act of 2001 is in almost total violation of the constitution, requiring many of the regulations Nazi Germany and communist Russia had. When all the requirements of this act are implemented, the citizens of this country will rue the day they ever allowed such a monstrosity to become law. Jesuits in the government were responsible for this act and forced its passage. They forced a vote on this act without giving the congressmen and senators an opportunity to read it! Why didn't the congressmen and senators have the good sense to vote “no” and defeat this act since they were never able to read it?
The Homeland Security Act of 2002 is another act that was passed to take away freedom and security in the United States and is in total violation of the constitution. As all the requirements of these acts become implemented, the people of the country will learn first-hand how it feels to have absolutely no freedom. These and other laws and regulations on the books will, when implemented, convert the United States into a more ruthless police state than was Nazi Germany or communist Russia and Red China.
Today, the United States is run and controlled by its most dedicated enemies. If you wonder at the things the government and the people in control of the government do that are so damaging to the United States, it is because they are our enemies and are determined to destroy the United States. Treason is running rampant throughout all levels and branches of the U.S. government today.

[Mac4Lyfe]

@ Mac4Lyfe


dude , you are as worse as the race-baiting posters (whities) with your made-up hearsay stuff

What have I made up? I own a home in that area and get my info from people who live there not from you or the media.

[wantitall4moi]

I don't like seeing anyone railroaded as well BUT it is pretty clear that this Zimmerman guy was a hot head looking for a fight. This guy has a history of alcohol abuse and violence. What other reason would he have to go outside and confront the kid other than to start a fight? Think about that? The police was on the way. All he had to do was wait for them to show up. What normal person would call 911 then go outside with a gun unless he wanted to start a fight? If a stranger walks down your street, don't you wait for him to at least walk on your property before you confront him? Who confronts someone walking on the sidewalk???

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...police-officer

Zimmerman accused of domestic violence, fighting with a police officer


Orange County Sheriff's Office
George Zimmerman is pictured in this booking photo taken in July 2005.


By msnbc.com staff
Court documents obtained by msnbc.com on Tuesday evening show that George Zimmerman, who fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, went to court in 2005 and 2006 for accusations of domestic violence, tussling with a police officer and speeding.
The three incidents took place in Orange County, Fla.

• In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

• In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

• In December 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. The case was dismissed when the officer failed to show up in court.

LMAO seriously? Guy was drunk and pushed a cop, that is what is called resisting arrest and assault on a cop everywhere. It got knocked down to a nothing charge just like all those other ones do. I would say 30-40% of any and all DUI arrests come with some sort of resisting arrest nonsense, and mre than a few with an assualt on a cop charge. That is typical.

Then his grl smacks him and he grabs her and scratches her arm and he is getting charged with domestic assualt. Since he then pressed charges on her and they were magically cleared up shows what happened there as well.

Guy has a couple incidences from 6 and 7 years ago, for all intents and purposes he is a model citizen, especially for Florida.

He doesnt even have a conviction that I can see. So does that mean he is getting away with all this? Or that he has a history? If that is it it doesnt show me shit.

As far as waiting for the cops, I imagine that is exactly what he was doing, but the kid caught up to him before he got to his car. He was a watch captain in a place where stuff was getting stolen left and right. he was doing what he had done a hundred times before I imagine. That will be interesting to see also, how many times he or someone else form that neighborhood had called 911 on someone. I know one thing, none of those people got killed.

[stevenash]

If this ever gets to court, the real truth on Trayvon will come out.

Taking bets right now on 'not guilty'

[teaserpleaser]

just called the feds suspect number one now

call em im not doing anything but i think we all know shits going to kickoff if zimmerman walks...

[dice]

If this ever gets to court, the real truth on Trayvon will come out.

Taking bets right now on 'not guilty'

Do you think he can get a fair trial? Is he safe to walk around in public?

[wantitall4moi]

Do you think he can get a fair trial? Is he safe to walk around in public?

ask casey anthony.

I remember all the talking heads still spewing stupidity like she would be selling herself or looking to cash in. she has been seen since other than some videos that were more than likely hacked from her computer and put online. Certainly not the shit these same media terrorists said she would be doing.

[stevenash]

Do you think he can get a fair trial? Is he safe to walk around in public?

He'll be found not guilty, lay low for a year or two, make a fortune off of the publicity down the road.
Just wait, Zimm will make out like a fat cat.

[baskets]

lol


look at all these fukking n***** backing that worthless scum that goodified

guaranteed bet is that Maggot4Life was all over the OJ trial declaring 'he be innocent'.. when we know damn well that OJ went slicing and dicing on that jugulars that night


fukking dumb ass *****. they always think they're innocent, yet they're committing all the fukking crime

lmfao

[Sam Odom]

Latest PIC of Zimm - White or Latino ?






Dude looks like Carmelo - a latino kid who runs my fav taco stand

[eidolon]

call em im not doing anything but i think we all know shits going to kickoff if zimmerman walks...

And we can thank Obama for bringing this too the national news...

[tad0matic]

call em im not doing anything but i think we all know shits going to kickoff if zimmerman walks...

See this is the problem for the poor dumbass negors that will try to loot their local stores when he walks. Alot of people were in shock when they danced in the street after the o.j. verdict came down, but this time the majority knows what to expect from the welfare class. It will be a very bloody day if misunderstood black youth start running loose terrorizing people, people are ready. sharpton and jackson should be talking sense to avoid more bloodshed, instead they whip up the ignorant peoples anger, the ones who can't see past skin color, on both sides. it's going to be bad if "shits going to kickoff" like you say...

[stevenash]

They charged him with second degree murder in hopes they get Zimmerman to plea down to manslaughter where Zimm would get,say 4 years, and be out in 2 years.

They know damn well they can't prove second degree murder, and Zimm should not cop to a plea of manslaughter.

p.s. if people can't see that this 'arrest' is and 'arrest' of convenience just to buy some peace and quiet, than you are naive.

I putting my money on 'not guilty'

[stevenash]

[Vol_Bengal]

How do you know it was not self defense? Yes he shouldn't have followed him after the dispatcher said not to, but when there's actually video evidence that trayvon bashed the back of his head it's pretty fuking ignorant to say he deserves whatever he gets

That's just it. Go read the 911 call transcript. He didn't continue to follow once he was instructed not to. Go look at it.

[wikkidinsane]

lmao seriously? Guy was drunk and pushed a cop, that is what is called resisting arrest and assault on a cop everywhere. It got knocked down to a nothing charge just like all those other ones do. I would say 30-40% of any and all dui arrests come with some sort of resisting arrest nonsense, and mre than a few with an assualt on a cop charge. That is typical.

Then his grl smacks him and he grabs her and scratches her arm and he is getting charged with domestic assualt. Since he then pressed charges on her and they were magically cleared up shows what happened there as well.

Guy has a couple incidences from 6 and 7 years ago, for all intents and purposes he is a model citizen, especially for florida.

He doesnt even have a conviction that i can see. So does that mean he is getting away with all this? Or that he has a history? If that is it it doesnt show me shit.

As far as waiting for the cops, i imagine that is exactly what he was doing, but the kid caught up to him before he got to his car. He was a watch captain in a place where stuff was getting stolen left and right. He was doing what he had done a hundred times before i imagine. That will be interesting to see also, how many times he or someone else form that neighborhood had called 911 on someone. I know one thing, none of those people got killed.

zimmer is a real thug. He probably have f**k the police tatted on his belly. He obviously think he is bigger than the law.

[wikkidinsane]

Latest PIC of Zimm - White or Latino ?






Dude looks like Carmelo - a latino kid who runs my fav taco stand

HE LOOKS WHITE AND LATINO TO ME. MORE SO WHITE, WITH A TOUCH OF HEEEEEHAW HILLYBILLY IN HIM *gunshot*

[RunningMan7]

If the guy was so beat up, he would need more than cursory first aid . If his head was beaten down to the concrete as bad as he said he was, why wasn't there an immediate concussion test, maybe an MRI to look for internal damage? Why did the screaming stop when the gunshot was heard? If he was screaming, wouldn't there be some pause as he gathered himself to shoot Trayvon?

Besides, why do you automatically assume he is in the clear? He shot Trayvon. That is beyond a doubt. The law is stupid because the burden of the intention should not be on the state. The state should only shoulder the burden of proving who committed the actual shooting. But the intention should be proved by the defendant if there was a common sense self defense law.


For all we know, he approached Trayvon rudely, and whatever followed, Trayvon knocked him down and that is what caused the minor bruising. Should every person on the winning side of a bar fistfight be gunned down by the losing guy because he could not take the beating? Do not confrton a person if you are unable to handle a fight.

[sharpcat]

This is a cut and dry case of a man who was attacked for no legitimate reason and acted with in his rights to defend himself, Zimmerman did what he had to do he was punched, pinned to the ground, and was suffocating on the blood pouring from his nose.



It is not against the law to follow someone for a brief period of time, it is however against the law to assault someone and if you assault someone and there is nobody around to help them than they have a right to use lethal force. The man cried for help and cried for Trayvon to stop.

[Marv001]

I suspect they will not have enough evidence and Zimmerman will walk.

[greenhippo]

He's a fukkin racist and he will burn in the pits of hell... Killing a young innocent man with skittles and iced tea talking to his girlfriend. Zimmerman is a racist piece of shit fuk him

I understand your viewpoint of the situation, but not every, single, response defending Martin has to point out skittles and iced tea. It has ZERO to do with anything, yet it keeps being regurgitated endlessly in a failed attempt at making it seem like skittles = playful little boy. You do your side the biggest disservice by endlessly throwing that out there.

[sharpcat]

Prosecutors affidavit of probable cause highlighting why they chose to pursue charges is laughable.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2012/04/12/zimmerman_makes_court_appearance_in_fla_shooting/

The affidavit of probable cause prepared by prosecutors shed some light on why they chose to charge Zimmerman. The Orlando Sentinel said it had obtained a copy before it was expected to be filed with the courthouse.

The newspaper says that Martin's mother identified screams heard in the background of a 911 call as her son's. There had been some question as to whether Martin or Zimmerman was the one calling for help.
Of course his mother would identify the screams from the 911 call as her son she will say anything to defend her son as any mother would do. Defense should have no problem having this nonsense dismissed. This needs to be proven beyond doubt by a professional not by Trayvons mother.

Prosecutors also interviewed a friend of Martin's who was talking to him just before the shooting. The affidavit says Martin told the witness he was being followed and was scared.
This claim from Martins girlfriend completely contradicts what she originally said which was that Martin told her he was not going to run which suggests that he was not scared nor did he ever tell her he was scared just that someone was following him. She also claims that Trayvon approached Zimmerman and said "why are you following me?" and Zimmerman replied "what are you doing here?" she than goes on to claim that Zimmerman must have pushed Trayvon because the phone went down but has no evidence to prove this or to prove that Trayvon did not drop the phone to attack Zimmerman.

Again another friend/loved one of the victim who was not there and will say anything to defend Trayvon the Defense will have no problems destroying this girls testimony assuming the judge even allows it to be heard especially if she can not speak proper english as she demonstrated to be a problem in her phone interview with the media.

Martin tried to run home, the affidavit says, but was followed by Zimmerman: "Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin."

The affidavit says that "Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher" who told him to stop, and "continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home."

Trayvons girlfriends testimony contradicts that Martin tried to run home by her statement that he told her he was going to walk. 911 tape suggests that Zimmerman was already out of his vehicle when the dispatcher told him that it was not necessary to follow him to which he replied "Ok" and there is no further evidence to prove that he disregarded the dispatchers advice and continued his pursuit.

Prosecution has absolutely no case here and it is disgusting that a man could have a charge as severe as 2nd degree murder on his record for the rest of his life if there is no evidence to prove that he is guilty just so that the prosecutor can apease the media and the angry lynch mob that they have created. This is a violation of this mans civil rights and ironically it is brought upon him by the same group that has been crying about civil rights.

[Jayvegas420]

No one who has posted in this thread has ever know anyone personally, who has been shot down on cold blood. So I dont think any of your opinions are valid.
When your close friends or Mother are shot in the same manner, then you have legitimate grounds to come into a thread like this & talk about how your Mother was in the wrong place & the wrong time, thus defending the crazy man who killed her.
I doubt you would be defending the Stand Your Ground law if a friend or family member were shot by a gun touting red neck.
I guaruntee you would not be in a forum defending this if YOU were the victim.

lets be realistic when posting our opinions in public & not just trying to instigate a fight with our words.
I find it hard to believe that any rational gambler truly believes we, as a society should allow this behavior to go unpunished.

[greenhippo]

I hope there is more to it than that Sharp, that is one pathetic attempt at getting a guy on trial if they're basing it on hearsay and assumptions.