drug testing for welfare recipients.....

[nyjets15]

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

Shouldn't a person have to pass a monthly drug test in order to receive welfare, SSI, food stamps, etc.?

My wife and I have county jobs in the state of Ohio and will be taking paycuts and possibly being laid off because the state is broke. It just pisses me off that so manypeople are just given free handouts while those of us who work full time and pay taxes are the ones who are most affected by our state governments debt.

Monthly drug tests for welfare recipients would save states a lot of money....imo

Who's with me????

[chilidog]

I disagree, because what you consume usually does not correlate with your financial state of being.

[meader99]

This is also on Mr. Walker's agenda in Wisconsin. If you are a part of these government programs such as welfare, how in the hell can you be buying rock? It's a fantastic way to push folks away from the trough.

[neverstoppers23]

This is also on Mr. Walker's agenda in Wisconsin. If you are a part of these government programs such as welfare, how in the hell can you be buying rock? It's a fantastic way to push folks away from the trough.

I think it is a good idea to do this,.
But at the same time, a lot of people on Welfare, government programs have all kinds of addictions cigs, beer, ect. So i don't think it will solve much. Anther thing is that, people use their government assitance that is supposed to help them live all on gambling. I remember seeing a study on tv, saying a lot of people withdrew from the ATM at the casino withdrew from their government funded assistance.
Not, saying they shouldn't allowed to be doing these things at all, but there is a reason these people are in the situation. I think if we gave them the support they needed for their addictions, that would save us a lot of money, but they are unlikley to take the support and continue taking their entitlements.

Anybody, who watches Shameless, Frank is the picture of our f'd up state comps.

[Dutch]

Cocaine only stays in the system a short time. Only pot smokers would get caught up and in a few states they can get a letter from their Dr. saying it's used as medicine, which would open a can of worms from a legal standpoint.

I say make them get out and pick up trash, clean public parks, help rehab buildings. Maybe Detroit and other rustbelt cities wouldn't look so bombed out.

I think they should cut way back on the cash they give people. Food stamps and daycare vouchers are one thing, I feel bad for the kids, but if you want money get out there and fill out some apps.

[chilidog]

Cocaine only stays in the system a short time. Only pot smokers would get caught up and in a few states they can get a letter from their Dr. saying it's used as medicine, which would open a can of worms from a legal standpoint.

I say make them get out and pick up trash, clean public parks, help rehab buildings. Maybe Detroit and other rustbelt cities wouldn't look so bombed out.

I think they should cut way back on the cash they give people. Food stamps and daycare vouchers are one thing, I feel bad for the kids, but if you want money get out there and fill out some apps.

I completely agree. If you want government assistance, you should have to work for it. I understand if you're on disability and you are physically unable to work, but otherwise, you should have to complete x hours of work for the government in order to receive your assistance.

[onetrickpony]

this would waste more money, hire ppl to conduct these tests, put them in the computer, mail it out the cost would add up not to mention the looting these people would do if they didnt get their dope. its fine the way it is, just do ur job and leave the politics to the crooked ppl in dc and oh yeah pick more winners.

[shaggy3000]

I think it's a great idea. Always have. At worse it creates jobs because someone has to run that increase in drug test. And it will weed put a few that def shouldn't be collecting welfare

[nyjets15]

this would waste more money, hire ppl to conduct these tests, put them in the computer, mail it out the cost would add up not to mention the looting these people would do if they didnt get their dope. its fine the way it is, just do ur job and leave the politics to the crooked ppl in dc and oh yeah pick more winners.

it is NOT fine the way it is.....i go to work every f*cking day to earn my money.

these lazy f*cks (not all of them), just sit on their lazy asses and wait for the checks that they think they deserve, then have more kids and get more checks

and from my line of work, i know first hand that the assistance they get for their children DOES NOT always go towards raising their children

[stikymess]

this would waste more money, hire ppl to conduct these tests, put them in the computer, mail it out the cost would add up not to mention the looting these people would do if they didnt get their dope. its fine the way it is, just do ur job and leave the politics to the crooked ppl in dc and oh yeah pick more winners.

Agree waste of money. How bout a time limit, okay you qualify for benefits. Your benefits end at such and such a date. No if and or buts.

The other day behind a lady at the store on benefits, three kids in tow, women had rings on every finger, gold necklaces, oldest kid had a cell phone. She was on a cell phone, acted like she couldn't be bothered to had the clerk the card.

What were they buying? Soda and cheetos. Unreal.

[chilidog]

it is NOT fine the way it is.....i go to work every f*cking day to earn my money.

these lazy f*cks (not all of them), just sit on their lazy asses and wait for the checks that they think they deserve, then have more kids and get more checks

and from my line of work, i know first hand that the assistance they get for their children DOES NOT always go towards raising their children

So your solution is to drug-test them all? Riiiight. That will cost more money than it would save.

[mighty maron]

it is NOT fine the way it is.....i go to work every f*cking day to earn my money.

these lazy f*cks (not all of them), just sit on their lazy asses and wait for the checks that they think they deserve, then have more kids and get more checks

and from my line of work, i know first hand that the assistance they get for their children DOES NOT always go towards raising their children

I pity you and your anger. I hope this rant has brought you some temporary relief on the subject. Unless you are going to do something like generate a petition to get this on a ballot, then its basically a rant and a waste of time

[spartangreen]

I agree, sick of busting my ass at work then i stop at the grocery store and see somebody buying shrimp, steaks and lobster and they take out a food stamp card to pay for it.

I also think that they should require people who get welfare to do at least 20 hours a week of community service, at a place like habitat for humanity or any place like that, or even pick up trash on the highways.

[pokernight1991]

Violates the 4th Amendment.

[itchypickle]

Even better...other than on the 1st and 15th....every Mon - Wed (leaving thurs and fri to job hunt) they should be mandated to be at a designated parking lot by 0630 where tax payers can come through and pick them up to do manual labor or odds and ends jobs around the house that said taxpayer cannot do due to having to work to pay for these welfare benefits. This will provide at least SOME form of community payback for the funds being received. And he...if they don't get any work done that day, at least we know they had to be up early like the rest of us

[mighty maron]

Even better...other than on the 1st and 15th....every Mon - Wed (leaving thurs and fri to job hunt) they should be mandated to be at a designated parking lot by 0630 where tax payers can come through and pick them up to do manual labor or odds and ends jobs around the house that said taxpayer cannot do due to having to work to pay for these welfare benefits. This will provide at least SOME form of community payback for the funds being received. And he...if they don't get any work done that day, at least we know they had to be up early like the rest of us

I agree.....they can scope out the taxpayers properties and tell all the homeboys about the rich pricks house they were at. Post your address and I will send some volunteers over

[falconticket]

Violates the 4th Amendment.

How. Your only tested if you want to receive benefits. Its voluntary, just like a drug test for a job. Or to drive. No violation whatsoever in my opinion.

[mighty maron]

People are pissed off at the poor...can someone tell me why the US govt is spending much more money in Operation Libya air shield.....

[nyjets15]

I pity you and your anger. I hope this rant has brought you some temporary relief on the subject. Unless you are going to do something like generate a petition to get this on a ballot, then its basically a rant and a waste of time

it doesnt make you at all angry that your tax money goes to support the drug habits of the poor?

my drug testing idea isnt perfect, but just wanted to get the ideas flowing.....

No need to waste your pity on me

[survive]

I agree with a lot of you guys here. What the hell is the point of busting my ass at work if i can just sit home and make almost as much doing nothing?

[itchypickle]

I agree.....they can scope out the taxpayers properties and tell all the homeboys about the rich pricks house they were at. Post your address and I will send some volunteers over

Don't have to be a rich prick to need some work done on the house. Working middle class who pay the welfare can't afford to shell out alot for home maintenance....and since they're already paying for the assistance might as well get some direct benefit.

Let 'em come on by for a visit...live in an area with A) lots of retired military b) home security systems and c) nice big lake in the neighborhood to throw about 170 pounds of useless meat to the fishies to save a little state $$

[orioles]

The system sucks. Smoke a joint and you can't get a job because THC stays in the system for six weeks. Yet complete idiots get hired cause they test neg. Complete invasion of privacy.

[ttrace35]

it doesnt make you at all angry that your tax money goes to support the drug habits of the poor?

my drug testing idea isnt perfect, but just wanted to get the ideas flowing.....

No need to waste your pity on me

I dunno where your from buddy. But. If your from NY, then you should know that they have "work-fare" in this state. They make them drive around in green vans, cleaning up parks and highways. This is an old issue in NYC. Also, the way that the economy is, food stamps are needed by many working class people.

[Poster X]

why not just get rid of welfare. problem solved.

[Lincoln73]

The real problem is that a majority of welfare recipients supplement their public assistance benefits through the underground economy (working off the books, doing hair, illegal activities) which makes them unlikely to ever consider a minimum wage job because their lifestyle would take a drastic turn towards the negative.

[N.O.S.]

Absolutely, you can't use government money to get high

[N.O.S.]

why not just get rid of welfare. problem solved.

bad idea, feds throw away our money to foreign countries for zero return. First we must take care of our own people.

[clonecat]

Makes sense, a lot of people need to pass drug tests to keeps their job for their paycheck, should be the same for welfare.

[mighty maron]

Once again everyone is mad at the poor..at least those dollars stay in the country. Can anyone validate the hunders of millions, maybe even billions of US dollars going for this air shield in Libya?

[mighty maron]

Don't have to be a rich prick to need some work done on the house. Working middle class who pay the welfare can't afford to shell out alot for home maintenance....and since they're already paying for the assistance might as well get some direct benefit.

Let 'em come on by for a visit...live in an area with A) lots of retired military b) home security systems and c) nice big lake in the neighborhood to throw about 170 pounds of useless meat to the fishies to save a little state $$

I like how the middle class thinks its all thug like....many desperate people who would have no qualms about pulling the middle class down...

[mighty maron]

it doesnt make you at all angry that your tax money goes to support the drug habits of the poor?

my drug testing idea isnt perfect, but just wanted to get the ideas flowing.....

No need to waste your pity on me

If I were to get angry about wasted tax dollars; it would be for the military operations in Afghanistan and Libya. I can see the US in Iraq but the other two venues are a complete waste of money

[PoweRay]

But then the drug dealers will be taking a serious pay cut lol

[kiefynugs]

But then the drug dealers will be taking a serious pay cut lol

never met a drug dealer that took food stamps.

[kd2133]

This is a great idea. But people will find a way to pass the drug test. Also they could say that it violates some right or some BS like that. Also i dont think very many government officials would openly support this as a bill. but you never now crazy shit happens all the time.

[chilidog]

never met a drug dealer that took food stamps.

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