We Canadians are getting screwed on new car prices

**Deuce** · 03-23-11, 10:23 AM

Buy used, they are cheaper. Buying new, you leave the lot and the value drops 10k.

**Smoke** · 03-23-11, 10:28 AM

At least your guys prescription drugs are cheaper.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

It's time for me to buy a new car, so I did a little research and thought that with high gas prices it might be a good idea to buy a Ford Escape Hybrid.

So I went to Forddotcom, and saw that the MFSRP is between 27K and 30K, which I thought is not bad. Then I thought I'd better check the Ford Canada site just to make sure the prices match. NOPE! The same vehicle (only stripped down) is 45K. WTF?!?

I called up dealerships in Michigan and NY to see if they would sell me one, and they said they wont sell new cars to Canadians.

Isnt the NAFTA supposed to encourge trade and competition?

Americans and Barack Obama, just wanted to let u know the company that needed to be bailed out not that long ago doesnt want my $30,000.00.

Probably for the best, for that kind of money you can buy a better non-american car...And used is the way to go in typical circumstances.

Also, why couldnt you buy a car in the US? Ive never heard of that. I have known people that have bought foreign cars out of the country and brought them back.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr

Probably for the best, for that kind of money you can buy a better non-american car...And used is the way to go in typical circumstances. Also, why couldnt you buy a car in the US? Ive never heard of that. I have known people that have bought foreign cars out of the country and brought them back.

Fords policy in the US is not to sell to Canadians. It should make americans angry that a bail out company is turning away free business.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-23-11, 10:44 AM

LOL the dealership wont sell you a car because you are Canadian.

No wonder America is going down the shitter.

**Deuce** · 03-23-11, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

LOL the dealership wont sell you a car because you are Canadian. No wonder America is going down the shitter.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

Fords policy in the US is not to sell to Canadians. It should make americans angry that a bail out company is turning away free business.

I dont think this is true...BUT, say it was true...if you REALLY wanted that ford you don't have to buy it directly from ford. Dealers/private sellers will take your money, they are not even going to ask for a passport...You just have to go through customs when you return

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

LOL the dealership wont sell you a car because you are Canadian.

No wonder America is going down the shitter.

Yes, because there are so many foreigners coming to america looking to buy a ford...Give the forum a break with your garbage for one day...how about it??

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr

I dont think this is true...BUT, say it was true...if you REALLY wanted that ford you don't have to buy it directly from ford. Dealers/private sellers will take your money, they are not even going to ask for a passport...You just have to go through customs when you return

Obviously customs will be able to see that the vehicle doesnt match the plates, if i use canadian plates. So the dealership needs ur info to get temp michigan or NY plates, so they will be able to see im Canadian.

Call up Ford and ask them about if they sell to Canadians. They'll say they dont.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

Obviously customs will be able to see that the vehicle doesnt match the plates, if i use canadian plates. So the dealership needs ur info to get temp michigan or NY plates, so they will be able to see im Canadian.

Call up Ford and ask them about if they sell to Canadians. They'll say they dont.

OK, but like I said, you dont have to buy from FORD...Even if this is fords policy, its not the US or Canada's policy...Bottom line is...If you really want that ford you can buy it. You might just have to be a little creative. It cannot be that hard.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 10:55 AM

There's no better way to get out of recession then by exporting things. It creates jobs and is good for ur economy. So I dont understand Ford on this one. It's not like there is a huge demand for this vehicle. Even 30,000 is too high for a Ford.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 10:57 AM

Do Nissan, Mazda and Honday dealership sell new Fords in the US?

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

Do Nissan, Mazda and Honday dealership sell new Fords in the US?

Not sure, but now you are thinking.(i dont have an answer for you though) However, I think the sharp thing to do would be to find a private seller that is selling one with almost no miles. You will get a better price and you wont have to deal with anything other than bringing the car into Canada.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr

Not sure, but now you are thinking.(i dont have an answer for you though) However, I think the sharp thing to do would be to find a private seller that is selling one with almost no miles. You will get a better price and you wont have to deal with anything other than bringing the car into Canada.

There is a few hoops to jump through when importing a vehicle, so having a dealership help with that would be good. Plus, i might be concerned about buying a 2011 vehicle privately.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 11:08 AM

Thanks for the advice, I found it at a Subaru dealership that will sell it to me.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

There is a few hoops to jump through when importing a vehicle, so having a dealership help with that would be good. Plus, i might be concerned about buying a 2011 vehicle privately.

I understand. But if you are looking to save that money you may have to work for it. I do think you can find a dealer not associated with ford that will sell you one. There are also dealers that specialize in selling certified new/used cars(very low miles) search carmax or autonation. These are just off the top of my head.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by robzilla

Thanks for the advice, I found it at a Subaru dealership that will sell it to me.

**frognose20** · 03-23-11, 11:16 AM

Ford didn't need to be bailed out. That's was chrysler and gm. Ford just posted a $9.5 billion profit so that $30000 for one guy isn't going to hurt them much. Also in michigan you need proof of insurance on the vehicle before the dealer can let you take it so that could be part of the reason since you wouldn't have michigan no fault insurance. Not sure what states have that rule though.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by frognose20

Ford didn't need to be bailed out. That's was chrysler and gm. Ford just posted a $9.5 billion profit so that $30000 for one guy isn't going to hurt them much. Also in michigan you need proof of insurance on the vehicle before the dealer can let you take it so that could be part of the reason since you wouldn't have michigan no fault insurance. Not sure what states have that rule though.

All you have to do is call your insurance company with the VIN number and it will be insured, they fax proof of coverage to the dealer while you are there.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-23-11, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr

Yes, because there are so many foreigners coming to america looking to buy a ford...Give the forum a break with your garbage for one day...how about it??

Since no one in this country has a job anymore prices only can go one direction. He could also just wait a month for the US dollar to devalue even more and buy two of them.

**robzilla** · 03-23-11, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by frognose20

Ford didn't need to be bailed out. That's was chrysler and gm. Ford just posted a $9.5 billion profit so that $30000 for one guy isn't going to hurt them much. Also in michigan you need proof of insurance on the vehicle before the dealer can let you take it so that could be part of the reason since you wouldn't have michigan no fault insurance. Not sure what states have that rule though.

dealer will tow it to the border to avoid sales tax and my insurance will cover it for coming back to canada.

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

Since no one in this country has a job anymore prices only can go one direction. He could also just wait a month for the US dollar to devalue even more and buy two of them.

Wait there are no jobs in the US? My boss must not have given me that memo...You have to be the most negative, anti-us advocate I have ever encountered. If you really think the US is the one country on the planet with room to improve, you are delusional.

If you focused your energy on positive solution, rather than wallowing in your own political misery, you might actually contribute to conversations of a political/global nature.

You seem really unhappy and bitter towards a country(that you supposedly don't even live in). It just seems that surely you could be focusing on more positive/productive topics.

**Doug** · 03-23-11, 11:43 AM

What reason does Ford have for this policy ?

**NrmlCurvSurfr** · 03-23-11, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Doug

What reason does Ford have for this policy ?

Most likely its because Ford wants to get the most value out of the sale. They are an American company, so the money made off Canadian sales goes to the same place. Its just that they make more money selling that car in Canada. Just a guess though.

**Marigold HD** · 03-23-11, 12:16 PM

Why do you want a ford so bad??? There's better.

**lcscanada** · 03-23-11, 12:25 PM

It's very simple. First, don't buy Ford. Go down to Miami, and buy a 2 yr old BMW or AUDI for peanuts. I just bought a 2008 A6 for $15k there. I paid a few k on taxes at the border, but will worth it. In Canada the same car was 35k. Go to a city that's hit hard by the recession. Miami is full of 30 something playboys that spent all their money on expensive cars and over priced condos that now have to dump their assets because they were idiots.

**k13** · 03-23-11, 12:40 PM

Its like that for everything. Checkout Popeye's Chicken special price in Canada.

Parity means shit.