[BikingFit]

My buddy says Jews control it through agents and the AAU and the brothas are more than happy to take money over morals / integrity

[stevenash]

I believe there is a little funny business that goes on but I believe a huge percentage of all the major sports games are on the level.
I also believe it's next to impossible in this day and age to fix a game through a professional player because they make too much money to be 'bought' But I also believe there may be a very select few pro players are in on a fix but like I said that number of players are very small.
For instance if you're going to 'fix' an NHL game you may get to the goalie that doesn't make that much money.

I do believe a game can be fixed or controlled though a referee or umpire.
Especially an umpire.
This is why I think some games are controlled or fixed.
As a baseball junkie I watch a gazillion games.
I don't know how many times an umpire will call ball three on a two-two count when the pitch was clearly a strike.
So instead of the batter striking out looking the two-two count becomes full at three and two.
Three and two is a batters pitch because the pitcher needs to get the ball over the plate.
And after fouling off a pitch or two the hitter smacks a two run double or a three run homer when he should be sitting on the bench after striking out.
That's how you fix a MLB game.

I read a story once on how an NBA shot clock operator back in the day would not start the clock for the home team until well after the inbounds pass by about four seconds.
This affects the total of the game bet in favor of the under because by starting the clock four seconds or so after the ball is inbounded in essence the team has 28 seconds now not 24 seconds.

The shot clock operator eventually got caught but he got away with it for almost a full season, and his punishment was weak.
I believe he was fired but no criminal charges.

I need to find that link to that story, it's very interesting.

[jeffchitown]

My buddy says Jews control it through agents and the AAU and the brothas are more than happy to take money over morals / integrity

Your buddy needs medication. Easy money if you invest in a company using analytics to predict what bets have best odds. Using your gut is no longer profitable.

[stevenash]

Your buddy needs medication. Easy money if you invest in a company using analytics to predict what bets have best odds. Using your gut is no longer profitable.

If one teaches themselves SQL, statistics, and databases and is computer smart you can do that work on your own.
I do and even though I'm pretty smart I believe there are some smarter than me but getting back to my point you can do your analytics as well as the ones you pay for to do it.
You can get a big edge in betting MLB using certain analytics.
I'd go on but it gets long winded.

[lakerboy]

Soccer has fixed games. The fix is through refs though not players

[MinnesotaFats]

Tell ya what....the UFC card I think 9 of 12 dogs won.

IDK but seemed every line moved the wrong way

Not a bad day for casinos when no other revenue coming in

[carolinakid]

Some games are fix yes.....it been that way from the start of time......

[Big Bear]

yaaasss

[BikingFit]

I think modern sports since they been nationalized a large portion of the game is real, then they interject a little magic to get the result they need

[PAULYPOKER]

I believe there is a little funny business that goes on but I believe a huge percentage of all the major sports games are on the level.
I also believe it's next to impossible in this day and age to fix a game through a professional player because they make too much money to be 'bought' But I also believe there may be a very select few pro players are in on a fix but like I said that number of players are very small.
For instance if you're going to 'fix' an NHL game you may get to the goalie that doesn't make that much money.

I do believe a game can be fixed or controlled though a referee or umpire.
Especially an umpire.
This is why I think some games are controlled or fixed.
As a baseball junkie I watch a gazillion games.
I don't know how many times an umpire will call ball three on a two-two count when the pitch was clearly a strike.
So instead of the batter striking out looking the two-two count becomes full at three and two.
Three and two is a batters pitch because the pitcher needs to get the ball over the plate.
And after fouling off a pitch or two the hitter smacks a two run double or a three run homer when he should be sitting on the bench after striking out.
That's how you fix a MLB game.

I read a story once on how an NBA shot clock operator back in the day would not start the clock for the home team until well after the inbounds pass by about four seconds.
This affects the total of the game bet in favor of the under because by starting the clock four seconds or so after the ball is inbounded in essence the team has 28 seconds now not 24 seconds.

The shot clock operator eventually got caught but he got away with it for almost a full season, and his punishment was weak.
I believe he was fired but no criminal charges.

I need to find that link to that story, it's very interesting.

Why did you write all of that when it's just one word?





















REFS>............

[BikingFit]

Refs are controlled by others, they are simply there to ensure it happens.

[stevenash]

Why did you write all of that when it's just one word?





















REFS>............

Yes it's mainly refs but like I said a couple of players might be in on it and like I also said others like shot clock operators are in on it too.
My point being it's not just the refs but not everything is fixed, not even close.

And I wrote all that because when I get on a roll sometimes I can't stop.

[PAULYPOKER]

Every sport you love could be fixed - New York Post

^Here's a tidbit^

Cleveland went on to win the next game by 15 points. In Game 6, the Cavs also enjoyed some luck after Golden State sharpshooter Steph Curry fouled out — something that had not happened for three years.

His wife quickly tweeted, “sorry this is absolutely rigged for money . . . Or ratings [I’m] not sure which.”
The series went to a seventh game, and Cleveland ultimately squeaked by with a four-point victory, winning its first-ever title.


Here'a a book link from same NY post article........

“The Fix Is Still In: More Corruption and Conspiracies the Pro Sports Leagues Don’t Want You to Know About”

[PAULYPOKER]

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  The Fix Is In: The Showbiz Manipulations of the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL and…
  Brian Tuohy
  4.2 out of 5 stars 84
  
• 
  Larceny Games: Sports Gambling, Game Fixing and the FBI
  Brian Tuohy
  4.3 out of 5 stars 24
  
  
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  A Season in the Abyss: Sports Gambling vs. The NFL's Integrity
  Brian Tuohy
  

[jjgold]

No sir

[ThaTopMoron]

lol don't care

spot it and take advantage... even for the biggest ones

easy to see league wanted Rams over Saints in the SB for easier opponent/young QB vs Pats and that's why we got the horrific no call.. kept them alive.

and in the NFL we all know damn well how HARD it is to put a team away in a game ONE TIME. but to be asked to do it again... after you know damn well the refs just screwed you and gave the other team an extra life? and of course, rams got away with some OT penalties and hit that long FG to win

i took advantage and bet the Pats.... as much as i hate them. knew they wouldn't be allowed to lose... Bills 6 pats SB win at age 66. 666.

this year i was already all over betting LSU and KC in the playoffs but other things worked out to those teams advantage. KC didn't have to face the Pats or Baltimore thanks to the Titans run. KC dominated the SB late because they have the better QB and quick strike offense. easy wins

LSU was easy to take vs Clemson after the refs helped but the Buckeyes in a bind and made it harder for them to win with some horrible calls. Why back a team that got ref help to put them in position late to have a chance to win it? worked out there too.... LSU eventally got in control and won going away

spot it - take advantage

[PAULYPOKER]

Too hard to spot cause you don't know when and who their going to steer until it happens...

Some games are logic, others are not......

But you never know.........

[JIBBBY]

Jews controlled banks and everything basically in Europe back in the day and that's why Hitler and the Germans rose up and wanted to slaughter them off. Jews would only hire Jews and were taking over everything financially..

When traveling in Europe and talking to older people that lived thru it this is what they told me. It was eye opening.

Many elders still hate Jews in Europe today from what I hear still to this day..

I see that same kind of thing happening here in the Orthodox Jewish community here in Hollywood, they stick with their own kind and do look down on all others as less inferior.. I don't like that way of thinking at all with the Jewish Orthodox Communities of today.

Smart race of people though.. Jews could be the chosen people like the bible say.. ..

We all like JJ so I'm not Jew bashing..

My best bud in life and business partner is Jewish and he feels the same way about the Orthodox Jewish community. He calls them to extreme and haters behind closed doors..

[stevenash]

Wall Street and the stock market is more crooked than sports wagering is.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Let's just say the Freemasons created majority of the pro sports. Football, baseball, basketball, etc... It should tell you something.

[PAULYPOKER]

Players auto commit fouls every play because the refs turn their head on ballpark 50% of em.....
so they quickly find out whether or not they'll get away with the fouls......

[PAULYPOKER]

Now that sportsbettimg is legal,you ain't seen shit yet,
especially us veterans as new money won't spot jackshit.....

[Thor4140]

When i hear people saying athletes make to much money to fix games than why do a lot of them go gamble in casino’s? Players are in on it owners are in on it and that is why Pete rose will always be banned while the worst scum in the world isnt. Cause Pete did it on his own and not with the owners blessing in this trillion dollar market,

[stevenash]

When i hear people saying athletes make to much money to fix games than why do a lot of them go gamble in casino’s? Players are in on it owners are in on it and that is why Pete rose will always be banned while the worst scum in the world isnt. Cause Pete did it on his own and not with the owners blessing in this trillion dollar market,

I say any player with huge contract won’t jeopardize that fat contract if they get busted.
Having said that what percentage of players would jeopardize their career and a 20 million a year contract over a bribe to fix a game?
My guess is zero percent.

How big a bribe would it take for a player making 20 million would it take?

Casino gambling has nothing to do with this by the way.

[bhoor]

Jews controlled banks and everything basically in Europe back in the day and that's why Hitler and the Germans rose up and wanted to slaughter them off. Jews would only hire Jews and were taking over everything financially..

When traveling in Europe and talking to older people that lived thru it this is what they told me. It was eye opening.

Many elders still hate Jews in Europe today from what I here..

I see that same kind of thing happening here in the Orthodox Jewish community here in Hollywood, they stick with their own kind and do look down on all others as less inferior.. I don't like that way of thinking at all with the Jewish Orthodox Communities of today.

Smart race of people though.. Jews could be the chosen people like the bible say.. ..

We all like JJ so I'm not Jew bashing..

My best bud in life and business partner is Jewish and he feels the same way about the Orthodox Jewish community. He calls them to extreme and haters behind closed doors..

This world is run by JEWs. And they created corono as well. India is also ruled by JEWs aka brahmins who're 3% of Indian population. And they control everything from economy to military. All the top positions filled by brahmins who're JEWS.

Here is something you might interested in:

Lenin, who was a JEW, started communist revolution in Russia. Once they captured the power, they started to kill local Russians in the name of anti-revolutionists( watch this movie :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_RSDqBn0bA ) in millions. And Russian Red army's all the high positions(95%) were full of JEWs. Then came the Stalin who get rid of Jews from Red Army using 'Great Purge" killing more than million. If not for Stalin, Russia would be JEW nation. Well, Putin is also handled by JEWs in Russia.
Have you ever heard of ' The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

' ?

[bhoor]

Research all the Major League Sports commissionaires and their owners. You will get the idea. 90% would be JEWs.

[Vyasports]

friends.... listen... fix or no fix... bettors are betting on all types of bets...
in sports, the games that are 1 vs 1 like tennis, snooker, fighting... IMO these games are more prone to "fix" .... and even the individual players themselves may do it like when they want to lose a match if they have another bigger tournament coming...
i think its called "tanked their match"...

[Thor4140]

I say any player with huge contract won’t jeopardize that fat contract if they get busted.
Having said that what percentage of players would jeopardize their career and a 20 million a year contract over a bribe to fix a game?
My guess is zero percent.

How big a bribe would it take for a player making 20 million would it take?

Casino gambling has nothing to do with this by the way.

I am going to tap out. Every player i know who i thought rigged games somehow now work for the networks. That is their payback from the leagues for fixing games. They ain’t risking shit because the leagues are okaying it. This is huge huge money. Why you think these shitty teams all the sudden get good when they are getting new stadiums? Recently Bills, Raiders, Rams, and chargers. You wwant to know why? Because they need those season tickets to sell. What better thing for an owner than to have that stadium packed before they even start. this will be my last post on this. I would stake my life on my thoughts with all of this but i doubt anyone else would. It is refs, players and the leagues all in this together and no they don’t fix every game.

[hehfest]

This world is run by JEWs. And they created corono as well. India is also ruled by JEWs aka brahmins who're 3% of Indian population. And they control everything from economy to military. All the top positions filled by brahmins who're JEWS.

Here is something you might interested in:

Lenin, who was a JEW, started communist revolution in Russia. Once they captured the power, they started to kill local Russians in the name of anti-revolutionists( watch this movie :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_RSDqBn0bA ) in millions. And Russian Red army's all the high positions(95%) were full of JEWs. Then came the Stalin who get rid of Jews from Red Army using 'Great Purge" killing more than million. If not for Stalin, Russia would be JEW nation. Well, Putin is also handled by JEWs in Russia.
Have you ever heard of ' The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

' ?

The Jews that control the world are not even the Jews of the Bible (am I wrong about this?). I did a major research paper on Judaism in college (that was a long time ago). Lots of Jewish people live normal lives and are not part of this "control the world" aspect. That's why I try not to group one race being the source of this.

I didn't know that about Stalin. I thought he just purged more Caucasian people to be honest, but I know that the holders of major positions in the Soviet Union government were Jewish.

I'm not so sure about Putin. I think many of the Russian Oligarchs are Jewish. Putin is a smart dude. Much smarter than Trump could dream of being. I think Putin might see the whole picture differently. Just because the oligarchs are Jewish doesn't mean they are part of the cult that runs the world. They might be against that cult or group. I have no clue.

[stevenash]

I see that same kind of thing happening here in the Orthodox Jewish community here in Hollywood, they stick with their own kind and do look down on all others as less inferior.. I don't like that way of thinking at all with the Jewish Orthodox Communities of today.

Smart race of people though.. Jews could be the chosen people like the bible say.. ..

I know first hand the Jewish stick together.
I am Roman Catholic however my last name when you look at it on paper looks like it's a Jewish last name and I am sometimes mistaken as Jewish,

Back in the day when I was in High School I was invited to this big party that was hosted by a Jewish fellow.
I didn't know it at the time but the only reason why I was invited was because they thought I was Jewish.
A few weeks later when they learned I was Catholic they pretty much wouldn't give me the time of day.
Another case in point I was being interviewed for a job opening also back in the day.
The operations manager who hired me by the way said "are you going to need the Jewish holidays off"?
He was extremely apologetic when I told him I'm Catholic, not Jewish.

Yes, they are a very smart group of people.
A lot of them got high ranking jobs on merit alone.
Still some got jobs because they have friends in high places.

[hehfest]

Research all the Major League Sports commissionaires and their owners. You will get the idea. 90% would be JEWs.

I've mentioned this previously a few weeks back in another thread. Look at my old posts and you might find it. I can't remember what thread. This is true though. I've said previously they are very smart business people. They study law books while other races people (not all) go get high and worry about sex and drinking. They also pool their money together as a group. Meanwhile, many other races fight each other and compete against each other into the ground.....

[hehfest]

I know first hand the Jewish stick together.
I am Roman Catholic however my last name when you look at it on paper looks like it's a Jewish last name and I am sometimes mistaken as Jewish,

Back in the day when I was in High School I was invited to this big party that was hosted by a Jewish fellow.
I didn't know it at the time but the only reason why I was invited was because they thought I was Jewish.
A few weeks later when they learned I was Catholic they pretty much wouldn't give me the time of day.
Another case in point I was being interviewed for a job opening also back in the day.
The operations manager who hired me by the way said "are you going to need the Jewish holidays off"?
He was extremely apologetic when I told him I'm Catholic, not Jewish.

Yes, they are a very smart group of people.
A lot of them got high ranking jobs on merit alone.
Still some got jobs because they have friends in high places.

Yeah, but you know what? That goes for everything. The world is about who you know. I've seen this countless times in my life. Seeing my friends get hooked up with this job or that career, etc. That's a big problem in society in general. Nepotism. Or Frienditism. It leads to lots of incompetent people in positions that they have no business being. This is not just for Jewish people.

[Vyasports]

[bhoor]

The Jews that control the world are not even the Jews of the Bible (am I wrong about this?). I did a major research paper on Judaism in college (that was a long time ago). Lots of Jewish people live normal lives and are not part of this "control the world" aspect. That's why I try not to group one race being the source of this.

I didn't know that about Stalin. I thought he just purged more Caucasian people to be honest, but I know that the holders of major positions in the Soviet Union government were Jewish.

I'm not so sure about Putin. I think many of the Russian Oligarchs are Jewish. Putin is a smart dude. Much smarter than Trump could dream of being. I think Putin might see the whole picture differently. Just because the oligarchs are Jewish doesn't mean they are part of the cult that runs the world. They might be against that cult or group. I have no clue.

I agree Putin is smart person. But going against JEWS will put Russia in a very weaker position by economically and politically. Putin is going to receive 'Friend of Zion' award in Israel. I do think Putin is in the inner circles of JEWs/Illuminati group.

[stevenash]

I am going to tap out. Every player i know who i thought rigged games somehow now work for the networks. That is their payback from the leagues for fixing games. They ain’t risking shit because the leagues are okaying it. This is huge huge money. Why you think these shitty teams all the sudden get good when they are getting new stadiums? Recently Bills, Raiders, Rams, and chargers. You wwant to know why? Because they need those season tickets to sell. What better thing for an owner than to have that stadium packed before they even start. this will be my last post on this. I would stake my life on my thoughts with all of this but i doubt anyone else would. It is refs, players and the leagues all in this together and no they don’t fix every game.

You're entitled to your opinion, it's all good.
I'm not denying some games aren't fixed, but MLB players for the most part aren't in on it.
I'm very suspicious of home plate umpires though.
The best position player to throw a game (pardon the pun) would be the starting pitcher.
The pitcher controls the game. Watch the movie "Eight Men Out"
Eddie Cicotte wn 29 games for the 1919 Black Sox.
Arnold Rothstein and his gambling syndicate bribed Cicotte first.
No 29 game winner was that shitty it the World Series, and he committed multiple errors on would be routine outs.
But the guy calling the balls and strikes would be the most logical person to bribe first, he's the one that controls the game.