Political LIBERALs are sad people

[slacker00]

yeah let's stop right here since you have no interest in having a discourse on social welfare, but rather divert from one irrational thought to the next.

everyone of your posts failed to argue a point.

1. bad analogy (amish)
150 years ago if you made poor and lazy choices in life, you suffered the consequences.
You can still live in this world, if you choose. Nobody is stopping you.

2. continued misrepresentation of my position. i.e. straw-man (mandates, police stealing)
3. mocking, i.e. appeal to ridicule (aliens, sky)
you are free to be a drunk, a junkie, or a lazy bum. but you're not free to use the police power of government to steal from someone else to subsidize your bad decisions.
I think it's self explanatory that you are deluded about theft using police power.

4. illogical reasoning (participating in society = relying on government)
I didn't say that. I said, "rely on the infrastructure of society".


I'm glad I stopped you, because why continue when there's such a fundamental misunderstanding?

[losturmarbles]

yeah let's stop right here since you have no interest in having a discourse on social welfare, but rather divert from one irrational thought to the next.

everyone of your posts failed to argue a point.

1. bad analogy (amish)
150 years ago if you made poor and lazy choices in life, you suffered the consequences.
You can still live in this world, if you choose. Nobody is stopping you.

2. continued misrepresentation of my position. i.e. straw-man (mandates, police stealing)
3. mocking, i.e. appeal to ridicule (aliens, sky)
you are free to be a drunk, a junkie, or a lazy bum. but you're not free to use the police power of government to steal from someone else to subsidize your bad decisions.
I think it's self explanatory that you are deluded about theft using police power.

4. illogical reasoning (participating in society = relying on government)
I didn't say that. I said, "rely on the infrastructure of society".


I'm glad I stopped you, because why continue when there's such a fundamental misunderstanding?

why continue when you don't have the ability to make rational arguments?

we can all live in a time where people are held accountable for their own decisions. if you're weren't a pathetic loser, then you might agree. i don't know what amish people have to do with it, maybe you are saying that amish people haven't socially progressed the last 150 years?

i know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, so let me make it simpler for ya. entitlements are paid by the government. the government's source of revenue to pay these entitlements? yeah that's right, tax payers. if a tax payer fails to pay their taxes, guess what? they go to jail. it is a criminal offense if you fail to pay your taxes. do you get it now? ...probably not.

so i'll ask you again. what is "the infrastructure of society"? thank god we have it though, else what would we do???

[reno cool]

So, the drunks, junkies and bums are using the police to steal from you? Let me guess, aliens are stealing your brainwaves as well? What color is the sky in your world?

Self reliance? I don't know anyone who doesn't rely on the infrastructure of society.

Had this discussion with marbles many times. He refuses to acknowledge basic realities.

[losturmarbles]

Had this discussion with marbles many times. He refuses to acknowledge basic realities.

yeah sure reno. basic realities to you are hugo chavez is a great leader and venezuela is the socialist utopia that we should model ourselves after.

i tend to stick to the realities that capitalism has done more to eliminate poverty than any socialist doctrine or government program.

[slacker00]

<rhetorical question removed> <irrational insult removed>

we can all live in a time where people are held accountable for their own decisions.<irrational insult removed>you might agree.<argument from ignorance removed>

<irrational insult removed>. entitlements are paid by the government. the government's source of revenue to pay these entitlements? yeah that's right, tax payers. if a tax payer fails to pay their taxes, guess what? they go to jail. it is a criminal offense if you fail to pay your taxes.<irrational insult removed>

<argument from ignorance removed>

Ok, now you're getting a little more sensible, at least after I removed the needless verbiage. I basically ignore most of what you write because it is meaningless. I thought I'd share this observation just to help you understand how we are communicating. I still think we are failing to communicate 90% of the time.

So, now your argument is that you don't want to pay your taxes. This is a different argument than claiming that drunks are using police to steal your money. As I've been saying all along, there are ways to avoid paying taxes. But if one wants to participate in the primary benefits of the social infrastructure, one has to participate in paying for that infrastructure.

[losturmarbles]

Ok, now you're getting a little more sensible, at least after I removed the needless verbiage. I basically ignore most of what you write because it is meaningless. I thought I'd share this observation just to help you understand how we are communicating. I still think we are failing to communicate 90% of the time.

So, now your argument is that you don't want to pay your taxes. This is a different argument than claiming that drunks are using police to steal your money. As I've been saying all along, there are ways to avoid paying taxes. But if one wants to participate in the primary benefits of the social infrastructure, one has to participate in paying for that infrastructure.

are you really that dense? it's more like you are failing to comprehend 90% of the time. so of course you're going to ignore things you don't grasp. it's ok.

my argument hasn't changed. it's not about paying taxes, it's about redistributing wealth you ignorant fuktard. oh, and sorry about the "irrational insults", sorry it had to come to that. but if i'm going to keep waiting for you to go somewhere with your argument and all you do is ride the merry-go-round around and around, saying the same thing over and over, yet saying nothing at all, well yeah, i'm going to call you a fool. sorry.

[slacker00]

"irrational insults"

ok... Thanks for playing, I guess?

[BigdaddyQH]

We all know what the Liberal agenda is. They want to take funds from those people who legitimastely earned them and distribute them to the alleged "needy". Unfortunately, the needy include the street whores, the junkies, the drunks, the people who choose to reamin homeless, the milions of illegals who are the real economic problem, and the minorities who are still demanding money for doing nothing. This is the Liberal agenda. To them, anyone who will vote for them is "needy" and deserves the money that I earn as a working citizen. Now if you saw a homeless dog laying in the street, would you adopt it? Would you put a bullet through it's head to end it's misery? Would you immedinately send a check to the animal rights people to they can send someone out to save the dog? Would you call the anmal shelter and have the dog picked up? Or would you just ignore it, and go on with your business. It is the exact same thing with a homeless person. What would you do with one if he was living on your street. Most would either ignore him or call the police. The Liberals would go to the home of the richest person on the block, demand money, and give it to the homeless person.

Can any Liberal explain to me how Obama and his spendthrifts expect to get the money they are foolishly spending if unemployment numbers are getting higher? Anyone? Where is the money going to come from? I guarantee you it will not come from me, because my attorneys and investment counselors are much smarter than a bunch of Liberal F***ups in Washington D.C, so I do not have to pay taxes if I opt not to. This year, (for 2009) I opt not to. I opt not to pay for the homeless. I can do that through various charities if I so desire. I opt not to pay for any more bailouts. That is just a terrible waste of my money. I opt not to pay for any more services for illegals. They are in this country illegally. As far as I am concerend, you can ship them back or line them up and execute them. Since when do we subsidize law breakers? I opt not to pay the salaries of politicians who are trying to rob me of every penny I make, of politicians who are more concerned about gay rights than the safety of this country, or politicians who have no business being politicians. Those are my options. I happen to be samrter than the average Federal worker. I have had to overcome their interference while I make my fortune. And I do it legally. Now this comes with a price, but I would much rather pay a few hard working men and women than have my money subsidize some illegal street hooker looking for her next crack buy.

I have to comment on something here. Slacker, I understand that you are a complete and total Liberal, and you certainly are entitled to your opinions, but what is with your signature. "Give a hoot-don't pollute!!" I mean, are you serious man? Do you think anyone would take what you say seriously with that kind of signature? Just a suggestion, but when I first saw it, I just laughed. Talk about stereotyping yourself. If you want any respect at all, I would suggest leaving the political messages in the body of your threads, not in your signature or your avatar.

[DrStale]

BigDaddy, if memory serves you are a Christian. I don't think your boy Jesus would be a big fan of executing illegals and ignoring the needy. From what I recall of that book he was in, he helped out those people quite a bit.

[DwightShrute]

The Liberals would go to the home of the richest person on the block, demand money, and give it to the homeless person.

Plus they would demand money for themselves just for taking the homeless person to the house of the rich guy.

Like Dennis Miller said, "I am all for helping the helpless but not the clueless"

[DwightShrute]

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[DrStale]

Attacking those on the left who have blind faith in Obama is equal to attacking those on the right who are christian fundamentalists. Of course your argument looks good if you make it against the dumbest people on the other side.

[slacker00]

Slacker, I understand that you are a complete and total Liberal, and you certainly are entitled to your opinions, but what is with your signature. "Give a hoot-don't pollute!!" I mean, are you serious man? Do you think anyone would take what you say seriously with that kind of signature? Just a suggestion, but when I first saw it, I just laughed. Talk about stereotyping yourself. If you want any respect at all, I would suggest leaving the political messages in the body of your threads, not in your signature or your avatar.

Good grief, nice job hiding this message to me at the bottom of a bunch of baloney. I'm amazed I even found this. Why attach a personal message to me at the bottom of a goofy ranting paragraph like that?

My signature relates to my avatar. It's Woodsy Owl, an icon from the '80s. I never really thought about it being a political message. I just think it's a corny and funny oblique reference. My avatar is always an owl, of various flavors. Woodsy just happens to be an owl, anti pollution is his message. Would you have been equally offended if I'd chosen "Smokey the Bear"?

[Cappy]

Nah dude, he's right. The owl's outdated you need a more fearsome beast than that. You should go with a snake, now that's an avatar animal that allows people to respect your political agenda. If you don't get rid of the owl, I guess I'll have to stop reading your posts, how can I reasonably expect myself to keep reading the posts of someone who would use a goofy owl as his avatar.

[BigdaddyQH]

Good grief, nice job hiding this message to me at the bottom of a bunch of baloney. I'm amazed I even found this. Why attach a personal message to me at the bottom of a goofy ranting paragraph like that?

My signature relates to my avatar. It's Woodsy Owl, an icon from the '80s. I never really thought about it being a political message. I just think it's a corny and funny oblique reference. My avatar is always an owl, of various flavors. Woodsy just happens to be an owl, anti pollution is his message. Would you have been equally offended if I'd chosen "Smokey the Bear"?

If you admit that your owl is "goofy" or "corny", how are we to take anything you say seriously? I mean, I respect your rights to your opinions, but to take them seriously, I think that the owl has to go. As far as what you claim of my post being "balony" goes, I find it rather interesting that you opt to defend your owl, instead of your position on the Democrats version of Socialism.

[DwightShrute]

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[reno cool]

If you admit that your owl is "goofy" or "corny", how are we to take anything you say seriously? I mean, I respect your rights to your opinions, but to take them seriously, I think that the owl has to go. As far as what you claim of my post being "balony" goes, I find it rather interesting that you opt to defend your owl, instead of your position on the Democrats version of Socialism.

what do you have against owls?

all of bigdaddy's posts are baloney. Can we please get him replaced with Pimp Daddy from Wal's video? Thnx

[dimewinner]

I'm a liberal, but I do try not to be a Debby Downer. I haven't eaten meat in years because of my concerns for animals and the environment as well as my own health. But if I'm around meat eaters I try not to preach. To each his/her own.

[slacker00]

If you admit that your owl is "goofy" or "corny", how are we to take anything you say seriously? I mean, I respect your rights to your opinions, but to take them seriously, I think that the owl has to go. As far as what you claim of my post being "balony" goes, I find it rather interesting that you opt to defend your owl, instead of your position on the Democrats version of Socialism.

So says the guy with the Chicago Bears avatar.

Nobody should be taking anyone too seriously unless they are making serious threats of force or something. This is a casual, friendly conversation. Relax.

What quote of mine I am supposed to defend? Your request is incoherent.

[trotwoodrose]

Politicians Are Sad People

There are no conservative politicians, don't be fooled by their childish antics. All politicians have the same thing in mind, special interests. They will never have respect or empathy for the 'lower class', they are there to suck the ever livin life out of us by using us as slaves. Sure we get a wage, but then they double/triple tax us so they can gain more control. They push their political agendas not having a care or concern of what the 'people' think or have to go through. Take off your blinders, they dems and reps are on the smae side. They only squable to make it appear that there is balance, but it all one sided, them AGAINST the 'people'. I don't know how, but they have got us all mentaly whiped into thinking and believing politics works, but it doesn't. They get a little power and all they want to do is get more. There is NOTHING I or any one of us can do about it though, besides bitch and moan until the death panels decide it's time for us to die or until they declare marshal law.

[DwightShrute]

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[SBR_John]

Enjoyed reading BidDaddy. Thought I wouldnt even read this thread but so many great posts glad I did.

I am a centrist conservative normally. I agreed on the banking bailout but not for the auto loan gifts. I like Obama but too bad he does not seem to understand that high taxes crush economic expansion.

[Carseller4]

Just something to ponder::::

How come when liberals protest, the inevitable yell of police brutality arises from the lingering haze of tear gas hanging in the air? Compare that to the peaceful TEA Party protests.

Liberals are not only sad people, they are downright hateful. Especially if you don't agree with them.

[Sam Odom]

Can any Liberal explain to me how Obama and his spendthrifts expect to get the money they are foolishly spending if unemployment numbers are getting higher? Anyone? Where is the money going to come from?

Wow!! Written 2.5 years ago...

A prophet !

[King Mayan]

must be sad.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

They just cannot be happy

At xmas lunch a 21yo girl relative did her best to damper the holiday mood. She repeated "This is enough food to feed 100 people in the 3rd world" , "I passed a homeless family this morning , I have lost my christmas spirit" , "We are killing women & children in Iraq & Afghanistan at this very moment" , so on and so forth all day long

I swear , she was so crazy with this my 78yo great aunt told her to please leave or shut up

If she is hot, I'd listen to her complain, soothe her worries, and then pound her all night long. Picture please. Although, after a night with me, she'd probably be complaining about how it was enough dick for 3 deprived asian women.

[Sam Odom]

must be sad.

truly is , being a wacky Lib

[Sam Odom]

If she is hot...

she is my children's blood kin so I'll pass

however , she is more mature now (2.5yrs later) since having a real job and seeing how the real world works. not so wacky now

[PickWinnerAllDay]

she is my children's blood kin so I'll pass

however , she is more mature now (2.5yrs later) since having a real job and seeing how the real world works. not so wacky now

She is 23/24 then. You hook her up with me Sam, every single girl I've dated has adopted my political beliefs. Come to think of it, I've dated some needy fukkin women who don't have a mind of their own. Oh well.

[King Mayan]

truly is , being a wacky Lib

She cries about real shit.. You cry about libs on the internetz... pathetic.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

She cries about real shit.. You cry about libs on the internetz... pathetic.

I think even you'd have to agree that bitching about stuff you can't control and making yourself and everyone miserable in the process isn't helping anyone.

Someone dies in the world every second. Should we be constantly depressed for them and their families? We could not sleep so we could pay each and every suffering family respect.

[Sam Odom]

PWAD , keep in mind she was all swept-up in Obama's 'Hope & Change' - not so much today

[Easy-Rider 66]

PWAD , keep in mind she was all swept-up in Obama's 'Hope & Change' - not so much today

Obama's Hope and Change/George W's Compassionate Conservatism- Interesting Concepts.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

PWAD , keep in mind she was all swept-up in Obama's 'Hope & Change' - not so much today

Hilarious how many college aged people were swept up in his bullshit. Such naive little bastards, living in Tennessee, it is most republican down here but Obama definitely had all the support on campus, and every damn day I walked to class I would be hit with Obama supporters outside of the library, the food court, Ayers, residence buildings. Was a damn circus in 2008, campus was overrun by these losers.