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  • DiggityDaggityDo
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-30-08
    • 81454

    #89391
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    • DiggityDaggityDo
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-30-08
      • 81454

      #89392
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      • DiggityDaggityDo
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-30-08
        • 81454

        #89393
        Soldiers unite

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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #89394
          The KVB NBA ATS/ML Fund has picked up...

          579 OKC -7.5 (+100)

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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #89395
            Originally posted by KVB
            ...We can use this type of spreadsheet to back test market results and analysis. Here we're using SMA but we can use other technicals as well on these market tracking Fund.

            We can set a tolerance as well. Say you went 5 trades after a signal, or 8 trades, or until you make a unit, etc...
            I want to expand on this but first I’d like to issue a disclaimer with another screenshot of a spreadsheet…



            The last two blue columns are our signals, the next four over are our units and averages used in the charts. The second column is simply the Contrarian Fund play results in order. You can see the first play was a win and the next five were losses (the 3rd column shows the running units at -4.05 after the first 6 plays).

            The red column will represent the sell signal trades when testing. The sell signal is not telling us to just sit back and count the money we saved by not buying the Contrarian Fund plays as it dropped, that’s the “penny saved, penny earned” NEUTRAL signal. That’s down the road. The sell signal tells us to Fade the Contrarian Fund, let’s get aggressive.

            The formula is in the picture and shows that all Fund wins (.91, .93, .95, .98, etc) will become -1 and any Fund losses will automatically be listed as .95 in the Fade column. The overwhelming majority of lines are -105 and the disclaimer is that all loss signal tallies will involve only -105 lines for this study.

            As we are now going to aggressively trade, low vig is essential anyway and be happy if we get away with better.

            Ok, so let’s look at this year, as we have posted data, then we’ll move on to past years.

            Originally posted by KVB
            ...We can set a tolerance as well. Say you went 5 trades after a signal, or 8 trades, or until you make a unit, etc...
            We’re using 10 and 20 day SMA’s, lagging indicators, to try to predict market momentum. So, let’s look at up to 15 trades.

            As we saw in the post referenced above, for 2019-20, the NBA Contrarian Fund has had 3 signals: sell, buy, then a sell…

            Individual Signals
            2019 Trades:
            Signal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
            sell -1 -0.05 0.9 1.85 2.8 3.75 2.75 1.75 0.75 -0.25 0.7 1.65 2.6 3.55 2.55
            buy -1 -0.05 0.9 -0.1 0.85 1.8 0.8 -0.2 0.73 1.68 0.68 -0.32 0.63 -0.37 0.58
            sell -1 -2 -1.05 -0.1 -1.1 -0.15 0.8 1.75 2.7 3.65 4.6 3.6 4.55 5.5 4.5
            Totals: -3 -2.1 0.75 1.65 2.55 5.4 4.35 3.3 4.18 5.08 5.98 4.93 7.78 8.68 7.63
            I apologize for the wider tables here, but we’re looking at the 3 signals, and then the results of any number of trades up to 15 games after the signal, or, for shorter intervals until the next signal (does not apply so far as there have been more than 15 games between signals).

            The Totals are not buy/sell splits; they are Totals for number of trades. The first trade, or game, after each sell signal above won, so fading it lost, and the first game after the buy signal lost, so buying it lost. If we had chosen just the one game after each signal to make our trades, we’d be down -3 units so far.

            Now, if we had chosen to buy or fade the next 5 games after each signal we would be up +2.55 units so far: 2.8 units after the first sell, .85 units after the first buy, then a loss of -1.1 after the second sell signal. Notice, that the first two Contrarian Fund plays after the last sell signal won, as fading them gets to -2 after 2 trades.

            When things get volatile, we stand to make more trading, and less so in the sideways markets, so a later study will involve some sort of measure of volatility to give us an idea of just how far out we should trade when a signal occurs.Wouldn’t it be great to know to trade 6 games after the first sell, 10 games after the buy, then 14 games after the next sell (the shakeout crash)? Sure it would, but that’s pretty specific.

            Like I said, we’re using 10 and 20 day SMA’s, lagging indicators, to try to predict market momentum and this is sports betting so let’s put ourselves in a position to really take advantage of any market momentum.

            Let’s run them all, like 15 separate Funds, for a unit each. That means we put 15 units on the first game, 14 on the second, 13 on third, etc. until we hit another signal or bet 1 unit on the fifteenth game.

            Let’s add up the columns from the table above…

            2019 Signal Units # Bets ROI %
            sell 24.3 120 20%
            buy 6.61 120 6%
            sell 26.25 120 22%
            Total: 57.16 360 16%
            All three signals went the full 15 trades, meaning there were 120 Total 1 unit bets churned for each signal and you can see the ROI.

            Remember how that pesky Contrarian Fund fired off two straight wins after that final sell signal above? That means fading it automatically dropped our units to -29 units with the first two games.

            Funny thing though, that was right before the market shakeout and that signal turned out to be +26.25 units with a 22% ROI on the signal.

            You see folks, when we zoom in and start trading the markets aggressively, we see that there’s more than one type of market shakeout and at this point patience and discipline have never been more important...



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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #89396
              Originally posted by turtledoves
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              • DiggityDaggityDo
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-30-08
                • 81454

                #89397
                <iframe src='https://gfycat.com/ifr/ParallelIgnorantCoyote' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' allowfullscreen width='640' height='844'></iframe>
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #89398
                  I wanted to include one more piece of information along with the current chart...



                  Here the the buy/sell splits for the three trades and the P&L that corresponds to the table in the above post...

                  Signal Trade #: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
                  buy -1 -0.05 0.9 -0.1 0.85 1.8 0.8 -0.2 0.73 1.68 0.68 -0.32 0.63 -0.37 0.58
                  sell -2 -2.05 -0.15 1.75 1.7 3.6 3.55 3.5 3.45 3.4 5.3 5.25 7.15 9.05 7.05
                  Totals: -3 -2.1 0.75 1.65 2.55 5.4 4.35 3.3 4.18 5.08 5.98 4.93 7.78 8.68 7.63

                  This is another way to arrange the data and another way to use a meta analysis. When it comes to the chart above, perhaps we can identify slopes, or better yet changes in the slopes, or even the rate of changes in the slope, in the yellow histogram that could lead to narrowing down ranges in which to trade each signal.

                  Also, I showed a 15 unit bomber method, but what if we did 6, or 10? There would less units churned, less risk, but what about the ROI?

                  What about limitations? The good news is that the situation are relatively rare.

                  What if a late game triggers first and its the first trade after a signal? We bet 15 units, but then a play triggers that's an early game and that actually would have been the 15 unit banger, but it has to be 14 unit snow. That situation is so rare, and unless it's the last game of the trade range, the difference isn't much.

                  If more than one game goes off at the same time or within two hours, we have rotation order, but what if the first game triggers a signal? It's too late to buy into the first trades. We can go LIVE, but have ever noticed how NBA leads sway and games rarely end the way the look in game?

                  Remember, it's not what they bring, it's how they bring it. We'll get there, I'm just trying to help folks understand just what it is that's being brought, then real life examples will allow you to appreciate how they bring it.

                  These limitations are such rare occurences and really have little consequence on our numbers, but we will moving forward, address them further if they come up.

                  I want to work on past years, I almost want to do a video. There is so much to work with here. I'm talking about things like the average number of games between signals and how they vary in different types of markets...again dealing with things like the slope and of the yellow histogram.

                  There are also other measures of the contrarian markets, a sort of deep looking set of Funds, that grade the markets and show where each is at a given point. Tying it all together can give us a really good picture.

                  So much to work with, but can you pick up what I'm putting down?

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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #89399
                    Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                    <iframe src='https://gfycat.com/ifr/ParallelIgnorantCoyote' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' allowfullscreen width='640' height='844'></iframe>
                    She was trying to do a back handspring on the bar?

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                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-30-08
                      • 81454

                      #89400
                      Instead her right foot slipped and she thumped her head on the bar.

                      Remarkable
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                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-30-08
                        • 81454

                        #89401
                        Listen to the THUMP when her head hits the bar.



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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #89402
                          Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                          Listen to the THUMP when her head hits the bar.




                          Everyone's laughing afterwards...lmao

                          But look at her arms, foot slip or not, she wasn't making it over.

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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #89403
                            I was in gymnastics for years, and my daughter has been doint it for more than 10 years.

                            I was at her advanced class last night. The instructors are eye candy.

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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #89404
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #89405
                                Did you see them?

                                Did you see those "Dimples of Venus" ^^^^?
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                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-30-08
                                  • 81454

                                  #89406
                                  Originally posted by KVB
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #89407
                                    The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund has picked up...

                                    783 25-Feb GEORGIA +5.5 (-110)
                                    819 E CAROL +8.5 (-110)
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #89408
                                      The KVB NCAAB ATS/ML Fund has picked up...

                                      603 25-Feb DAYTON -12 (-105)
                                      633 K STATE +14.5 (-105)
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #89409


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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #89410
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          The KVB NCAAB Technical Value Fund has picked up...

                                          783 25-Feb GEORGIA +5.5 (-110)
                                          819 E CAROL +8.5 (-110)
                                          ...
                                          These were very early buys, I am now picking them up at -105 prices.

                                          She'd better be careful, her arms are at serious risk here...

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                                          • turtledoves
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-27-17
                                            • 3398

                                            #89411
                                            time to start focusing on baseball

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                                            • turtledoves
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-27-17
                                              • 3398

                                              #89412
                                              Amplified Cannabis is a Sacramento based cultivator of premium indoor cannabis. We’re super passionate about music, exploring the outdoors and growing the best cannabis possible. We always strive to push the limits. Whether playing a gig, chilling with friends, or getting fresh tracks on a bluebird day.

                                              unknown lineage?
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #89413
                                                Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                Amplified Cannabis is a Sacramento based cultivator of premium indoor cannabis. We’re super passionate about music, exploring the outdoors and growing the best cannabis possible. We always strive to push the limits. Whether playing a gig, chilling with friends, or getting fresh tracks on a bluebird day.
                                                This is who we are.

                                                Now is a good time to pack the bowl.

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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #89414



                                                  https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post29281339





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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #89415
                                                    Forgot one...



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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #89416
                                                      Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                      ...unknown lineage?
                                                      Afraid of the unknown?

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                                                      • turtledoves
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-27-17
                                                        • 3398

                                                        #89417
                                                        they could at least say "got the mother from Dave's cousin" or something like that. gonna save those posts for when the symptom fairy leaves. been checking wiring for an hour, problem was the test cable wasn't stripped long enough.

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                                                        • turtledoves
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-27-17
                                                          • 3398

                                                          #89418
                                                          jane description was wrong, hoping the wifi cross i got is good
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #89419
                                                            Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                            they could at least say "got the mother from Dave's cousin" or something like that. gonna save those posts for when the symptom fairy leaves. been checking wiring for an hour, problem was the test cable wasn't stripped long enough.

                                                            85 degrees celsius ambient temerature tolerance.

                                                            Shit.

                                                            Way to go WAGO.

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                                                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-30-08
                                                              • 81454

                                                              #89420
                                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                                              These were very early buys, I am now picking them up at -105 prices.

                                                              She'd better be careful, her arms are at serious risk here...

                                                              She got some hangers there
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #89421
                                                                Wait, this video was published by Wago and it's incorrect? You can see on the side of the connector, in the video, it clearly says awg 24-12. Yet the narrator incorrectly says 14 is the smallest wire. LOL.
                                                                --Comment below video.

                                                                You are correct...
                                                                --WAGO reply.

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                                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                                  • 81454

                                                                  #89422
                                                                  Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                                  time to start focusing on baseball

                                                                  Like Superman
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #89423
                                                                    Originally posted by turtledoves
                                                                    they could at least say "got the mother from Dave's cousin" or something like that. gonna save those posts for when the symptom fairy leaves. been checking wiring for an hour, problem was the test cable wasn't stripped long enough....
                                                                    Doves is gonna onverload his shit...

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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #89424
                                                                      Took the Lakers -330 to close out a three pick open parlay for a +3.02 unit shot.

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                                                                      • badboybrown
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 10-19-13
                                                                        • 798

                                                                        #89425
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        She was trying to do a back handspring on the bar?

                                                                        CK COMING HERE TO BUST BALLS
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