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  • jt315
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-12-11
    • 22022

    #24466
    Originally posted by Hareeba!
    We Are Now A Backsliding Democracy

    Are we destined to become another Hungary?

    On May 29, 2010, Hungary was a flourishing democracy with a free press, robust civil liberties, judicial independence, and a multi-party political system. That day, Viktor Orban, who previously had been Prime Minister, returned to power after a free and fair election driven by voter discontent over the incumbent government’s handling of the 2008 financial crisis. In his years out of power, Orban had established an iron grip on the Fidesz party, and had remade it in his image into a right-wing populist body.

    In short order, Orban’s government, having commandeered the legal and political system, eviscerated judicial independence, installed a loyalist judiciary, attacked and undermined the free press, enacted election laws that hugely advantaged Fidesz and put an end to free and fair elections, labelled dissenters foreign agents and restricted their activities, and overhauled the constitution to centralize and consolidate power.

    Propped up by these perversions of democratic rule, Orban remains in power 15 years later. The international community and European Union have relatedly condemned Hungary’s democratic decline, but to no avail. Orban’s moves have sufficiently weakened opposition parties that they lack the means to topple him within the new ground rules he has established, even though his popular support now sits under 30%. Large scale demonstrations in October called for an end to elements of Orban’s oppressive rule. But, of course, there’s an immense difference between protesting from the outside for a restoration of democracy and using the tools of a vibrant democracy to change the party in power.
    Donald Trump, who returns to official power at noon today, has consistently expressed admiration for Orban as a “tough” and “smart” leader and a “strongman.” In his debate with Kamala Harris, he rebuffed Harris’s assertion that world leaders didn’t respect him by citing Orban, “one of the most respected men.”

    After his election victory, Orban and Trump had a phone call, after which Orban announced “big plans for the future.” Then last month Orban came to Mar-A-Lago to visit with Trump and Elon Musk.

    Trump will take his oath of office as President today, and if past is prologue, he will be lying. In the last few months, even before taking office, Trump has used strongarm tactics to bring both houses of Congress to heel. He has laid plans to reconstruct the government under the dominant principle of loyalty to his personal interests, and to punish any official who defies him. He has attacked the free press and seduced and intimidated their owners to grovel.

    As of this very day, America is a backsliding democracy.

    The overriding question becomes whether different forms of resistance can limit the backsliding and preserve a core of constitutional rule to nurture back to full health after Trump leaves the scene. Even though it seems to wash over in the majority of citizens, it is no exaggeration to say that the future of American democracy is on the line.

    A bitter lesson of the Trump age is that the constitutional rule that we had taken to be iron law, moulded in the very words of the constitution, in fact is underpinned by softer cultural norms that Trump has been able to shred. Only 10 years ago, the prospect of a Hungary-like devolution of the world’s strongest and most enduring democracy would have been laughable. Now we can actually see the descending path to authoritarianism and the benchmarks along the way.

    Because they depend ultimately on norms and the shared dedication of the people, democracies are fragile. When a constellation of weaknesses combines with the ascent of power of a vicious strongman, they can be gutted. It happened in Hungary, and it can happen here.
    Let me say that again. It happened in Hungary, and it can happen here.

    The risks are far keener as Trump returns to power for a second term, which was the point at which Orban undid Hungarian democracy. Project 2025 and Trump’s own crass instincts have dramatically reconfigured the very purposes of government.

    More alarmingly, the vast majority of his party have abjectly surrendered to his self-centred project. His brutal tactics have forced the capitulation to his will of nearly every federal Republican. The most recent example was Jodi Ernst, a survivor of sexual violence, cracking under pressure from Trump to support Pete Hegseth, who combines a lack of all qualifications to run the Department of Defence with an alarming record of sexual misconduct allegations.

    Compounding these challenges, four years after watching Trump turbocharge a violent attack on the Capitol designed to defeat the peaceful transfer of power, the American people, or a majority of them, seem unmoved by the gravity of Trump 2.0. Critics often point to a kind of national amnesia, but I don’t think that quite captures it. Abetted by the media, the country seems to have undergone a subtle shift. The revulsion and outrage of 2021 feels drained away, and Trump’s presidency—built on lies and inhumanity—is starting to feel way too normal—even grotesquely charismatic—to way too many people.

    This Substack is dedicated 100% to calling out, and pushing back against, the inroads into democracy that Trump has paved the way for in the last two months and that commence in earnest today.

    As I’ve said before, that means two things.

    First, it means spotlighting Trump’s lies, even, or especially when traditional media is falling down on job #1 of distinguishing fact from fiction. There is invariably a lie at the centre of Trump’s assault on Democratic rule. His press conference Sunday was a mix of recycled lies—e.g the 2020 election was rigged, or immigration numbers were at a low when he left office—and newfangled ones—e.g he won the youth vote in 2024 or he won Pennsylvania in a landslide (it was under 2%).

    As of today, we return to government by lies. The mass deportations that are reportedly set to begin in Chicago justified as stopping a wave of murderous swords – a lie. The reprisal prosecutions justified as revenge for politicized, meritless prosecutions against him – a lie. The prospective pardons justified as mercy for heroes and nonviolent patriots – a lie. Voting reforms justified as protection against widespread fraud at the polls – a lie.

    Push on any of Trump’s authoritarian ambitions, and you will find a lie. It’s the lesson that Orwell drove home in 1984 and, even more, the essay “Politics and the English Language,” the indispensable guide for the age of Trump. And it has never been so pertinent. It’s dispiriting and exhausting, but it’s the first rule of Trump. And that makes the first rule of resistance to always call out the lie.

    Second, Trump is laying the groundwork for a series of actions at violent odds with our defining values—mass round ups of immigrants, reprisal prosecutions drawn from Kash Patel’s hit list, ridiculous defamation suits designed to cow and intimidate the press, and lawless executive orders, including scores that he will issue today. Here, we have to take to the barricades. One thing that I hope I can do with this Substack is explain the anti-democratic implications of his actions based on my own government experience. But more than that, all of us can sound the alarm, and sound it again. As Marc Elias put it in a recent Talking Feds 1-on-1, everyone has her own town square—family, friends, co-workers—where they can call out lies and push back against democratic backsliding.


    Never give up dipshit


    ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero


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    • Hareeba!
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 07-01-06
      • 37340

      #24467
      Originally posted by ByeShea

      In case anyone was wondering 20 million vanished voters in 2024 count as missing persons cases and not voter fraud.


      wtf are you talking about?
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      • DwightShrute
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-17-09
        • 103475

        #24468
        Originally posted by Hareeba!
        38,000 gun deaths a year . . . GOP opposes gun control laws.

        2 cases of voter fraud a year . . . GOP passes 361 new voter suppression laws.

        Fascist arseholes.
        more people are killed in car accidents than gun deaths each year.

        - 60% of gun deaths are suicidal.

        - Three mass shootings over the past couple of days in Los Angeles

        - There are widely varying estimates of defensive gun uses (DGUs) that are considered potential gun-death prevention's, with figures ranging from hundreds of thousands to over a million annually.

        why can't we have a serious talk about mental health?

        did you know that 42% of transgender adults have attempted suicide, 44% thought about it, 21% reported non-suicide self injury? Don't you think chopping your dick off isn't a mental illness? What about using pronouns such as he/him/they/them etc?

        Funny how you never brought up this latest shooter in Minnesota. We all know its because he wasn't White and his political ideology didn't fit your narrative. This mental case ticked off all the boxes you didn't want to see. You didn't care about the victims. You are disappointed you couldn't spin the fukk out of it.

        the Liberal MSM are actually blaming Trump because he is cleaning up D.C. instead. Talk about mental illness. At least one media outlet has the guts to report it like it is.

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        • DwightShrute
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          • 01-17-09
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          #24469


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          • Hareeba!
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            • 07-01-06
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            #24470
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            • Hareeba!
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              • 07-01-06
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              #24471

              TACO Don
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              • DwightShrute
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                • 01-17-09
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                #24472
                Originally posted by he/him Hareeba!
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                • DwightShrute
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                  • 01-17-09
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                  #24473
                  America is Back!

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                  • stevenash
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                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65708

                    #24474
                    ^
                    This is a good read.

                    All the lefties and right-wing nuts that post in this should take two minutes out of their day and read this.

                    I moved to the middle 20 years ago.
                    I'm proud to be an Indie.

                    What Does 'Woke' Mean? | Merriam-Webster
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103475

                      #24475
                      Originally posted by stevenash
                      ^
                      This is a good read.

                      All the lefties and right-wing nuts that post in this should take two minutes out of their day and read this.

                      I moved to the middle 20 years ago.
                      I'm proud to be an Indie.

                      What Does 'Woke' Mean? | Merriam-Webster
                      woke

                      "Being completely deranged, hysterical and seeing racism/oppression in virtually everything."
                      --Paul Joseph Watson

                      Mathematics be racist. White milk, too. Get woke, yo!

                      by Wenn Pilliam May 04, 2017
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                      • Optional
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                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61805

                        #24476
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute

                        woke

                        "Being completely deranged, hysterical and seeing racism/oppression in virtually everything."
                        --Paul Joseph Watson

                        Mathematics be racist. White milk, too. Get woke, yo!

                        by Wenn Pilliam May 04, 2017
                        That sounds a bit hysterical Dwight.

                        We obviously don't agree on what being woke means, but maybe I can offer a definition of the anti-woke.


                        Does not want to allow any opinion not aligned with their own to be aired.

                        Does not agree with equality for everyone. Especially not the people who they chose to label as having a mental illness or being a criminal.

                        Does not think that there is strength in diversity of opinion.

                        Does not think that every American deserves a chance to be included in all aspects of society.

                        Only wants freedom for people who make choices the same as their own.


                        I think one day you might get woke enough that you end up surprised that you ever acted like being awake to the opinions of others you may not personally understand was a bad thing.
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                        • DwightShrute
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                          • 01-17-09
                          • 103475

                          #24477
                          Originally posted by Optional

                          That sounds a bit hysterical Dwight.

                          We obviously don't agree on what being woke means, but maybe I can offer a definition of the anti-woke.


                          Does not want to allow any opinion not aligned with their own to be aired. That is what the WOKE do. Cancel culture is a far Left woke thing. The Left will want to silence those who disagree. Look at how many conservatives to banned from social media during Covid and during Trump's first term. Even Trump was blocked on Twitter while the leader of Iran was allowed to keep calling for the death of America and Jews. The Right will boycott shit they disagree with. They won't prevent you from it. Huge difference.

                          Does not agree with equality for everyone. The Woke do not believe is equality. The believe in equity. Huge difference. Especially not the people who they chose to label as having a mental illness or being a criminal.

                          Is there strength in diversity? I guess there can be some sure. Its a blanket statement however. WOKE think this. No one has a problem with diversity. The problem people have with diversity is when its forced upon the public. The Woke take it to the extreme. They want it to be forced on society. Reasonable people want things to be based on merit rather that forcing any group to be represented. We want diversity to happen naturally. I know it's a old analogy but it's still rings true ... do you want diversity in the NBA? Or do you, as a fan, want to watch the very best players play basketball? Do you care if they are all Black? Do you demand there should be Whites and Asians on the team because there is strength in diversity?

                          United Airlines said their goal is to have 50% of their pilots to be woman and people of color by 2030 because its mostly White male pilots now. My reply is "so what it the majority are White men?" By denying White men to be pilots because of a mandate to have 50% women and people of color, isn't that discrimination against White men? It absolutely is. Imagine you studied your ass off and where at the top of your class but you can't be a pilot because your are White? Or any color. DEI is racist and discrimination as is affirmative action. Its the definition of it. It discriminates because of a person's skin color which was wrong decades ago as it is today. A While make shouldn't be discriminated over what happened generations ago.

                          I remember when Trudeau became PM. He hired 50% men and 50% women in his cabinet. Not by accident. Deliberately. He said so. That's bullshit. He should hire the best people. If they are all women, then fine. Biden said he would hire a Black woman as his VP and a Black woman to the Supreme court. That is wrong. He should just hire the 2 best people. If they are Black women, then fine.


                          Does not think that every American deserves a chance to be included in all aspects of society.
                          hell ya. They do now don't they? What can't a person do in America that another cannot? I mean, within sensible things. Not having dudes compete against women.

                          Equality, not equity. Huge difference between the two. The Right believes we all start from the same point, and your hard work and determination will determine your outcome. The Woke Left believes that everyone should end up the same, regardless if you are a slacker and a hard worker. The outcome is the same for both. Those are Free-Lunchers. Life doesn't work like in a free society. That's Marxism. Communism.


                          Only wants freedom for people who make choices the same as their own. Everyone wants that I hope.


                          I think one day you might get woke enough that you end up surprised that you ever acted like being awake to the opinions of others you may not personally understand was a bad thing.
                          there is a difference between being awake and being woke. I can explain it, like it did above, but I cannot make you understand it. Hopefully you get what I am saying. Fingers crossed.
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                          • jt315
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-12-11
                            • 22022

                            #24478
                            Originally posted by Hareeba!
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                            This administration again proving what an utter shambles it is.
                            Adios !


                            RFK Jr.

                            There’s a lot of trouble at CDC, and it’s going to require getting rid of some people.”

                            “CDC has on its website today that among the top 10 greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion (because it keeps small families), fluoridation (giving kids a toxin) and vaccines.”

                            “Anybody who lived through Covid saw all these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based, all the misinformation.”
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                            • DwightShrute
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-17-09
                              • 103475

                              #24479
                              Originally posted by jt315

                              Adios !


                              RFK Jr.

                              There’s a lot of trouble at CDC, and it’s going to require getting rid of some people.”

                              “CDC has on its website today that among the top 10 greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion (because it keeps small families), fluoridation (giving kids a toxin) and vaccines.”

                              Anybody who lived through Covid saw all these bizarre recommendations that were not science-based, all the misinformation.

                              The CDC said social distance, wear masks, and don't gather in groups of 10 or more...except if it's a BLM riot...COVID doesn't spread at BLM riots. They lost all credibility with that one. It was obvious.

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                              • jt315
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                                • 11-12-11
                                • 22022

                                #24480
                                Originally posted by dwightshrute


                                the cdc said social distance, wear masks, and don't gather in groups of 10 or more...except if it's a blm riot...covid doesn't spread at blm riots. They lost all credibility with that one. It was obvious.

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                                “science”
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                                • ByeShea
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-30-08
                                  • 8120

                                  #24481
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute


                                  The CDC said social distance, wear masks, and don't gather in groups of 10 or more...except if it's a BLM riot...COVID doesn't spread at BLM riots. They lost all credibility with that one. It was obvious.

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                                  Don’t forget National Guard posted at airports.

                                  Not that airports were dangerous or needed security - but the people in power had a population to intimidate.

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                                  • slewfan
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                                    • 10-01-15
                                    • 15971

                                    #24482
                                    https://youtu.be/7HTgWScHlHI?list=LL&t=3
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                                    • Hareeba!
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 37340

                                      #24483
                                      I want MAGA to please explain how defunding pediatric cancer research is making America healthier.

                                      Then, I want you to go explain it to the parents.

                                      You couldn’t and wouldn’t.

                                      Trump’s admin is full of cowards, losers, and idiots.

                                      Shame on them.
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                                      • Hareeba!
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                                        • 07-01-06
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                                        #24484
                                        RFK Jr: "We need to stop trusting the experts... Trusting the experts is not a feature of science or democracy, it's a feature of religion and totalitarianism."

                                        Possibly the stupidest and most dangerous quote in all human history.

                                        He was put in place by Trump to destroy America.

                                        MAGA is religion and totalitarianism rolled into one.
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                                        • slewfan
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                                          • 10-01-15
                                          • 15971

                                          #24485
                                          Newsome is an abject failure..

                                          Newsom Suddenly Gets Tough on Crime in California

                                          Posted by Mike LaChance on August 29, 2025 10 Comments


                                          15 seconds of a total moron..

                                          https://youtu.be/KK77uwsXrFA?list=LL&t=3
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                                          • Hareeba!
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                                            • 07-01-06
                                            • 37340

                                            #24486
                                            National parks generated $56 billion in visitor spending and supported 415,000 jobs in 2023.

                                            The entire National Park Service budget was just $3.6 billion. That’s some return on investment

                                            — so why is Trump now taking an axe to national parks?

                                            how can that make America greater?
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                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 103475

                                              #24487
                                              Originally posted by he/ him Hareeballs!
                                              RFK Jr: "We need to stop trusting the experts... Trusting the experts is not a feature of science or democracy, it's a feature of religion and totalitarianism."

                                              Possibly the stupidest and most dangerous quote in all human history.

                                              He was put in place by Trump to destroy America.

                                              MAGA is religion and totalitarianism rolled into one.
                                              Great post by a radical Lefty who uses he/him pronouns in his bio.

                                              trusting the experts” is not the same as trusting science.

                                              The "experts" told us that a high carb, low fat, high sugar diet was the way to go. This caused an obesity epidemic. You should research on how many times the USDA original food pyramid failed approval before eventually be accepted. Why did it fail so many times before being approved as the health guide for an entire country? If I remember correctly, if failed 5 times before being approved.

                                              The USDA's original Food Pyramid was flawed because it recommended excessive grains and carbohydrates while minimizing fats, failed to differentiate between whole and refined grains, and lacked specific guidance on healthy fat sources, leading to the creation of high-sugar, low-fat processed foods. It also featured large, potentially industry-influenced portions for groups like dairy. Critics noted it was confusing and promoted an outdated, unhealthy dietary approach, which ultimately contributed to the nation's obesity crisis.

                                              Key Flaws of the Original Food Pyramid
                                              • Misplaced Emphasis on Grains and Carbs:
                                                The pyramid's base was a giant portion of bread, cereal, rice, and pasta, recommending 6-11 servings daily without specifying whole grains. This promoted a high-carb, low-fat diet, especially as the food industry began creating low-fat products with high sugar content to replace the removed fat.


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                                              • DwightShrute
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-17-09
                                                • 103475

                                                #24488
                                                Originally posted by slewfan
                                                Newsome is an abject failure..

                                                Newsom Suddenly Gets Tough on Crime in California

                                                Posted by Mike LaChance on August 29, 2025 10 Comments


                                                15 seconds of a total moron..

                                                https://youtu.be/KK77uwsXrFA?list=LL&t=3
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                                                • Hareeba!
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 07-01-06
                                                  • 37340

                                                  #24489
                                                  Trump, no doubt under pressure from his Zionist puppet masters, trying to make the upcoming recognition of a Palestinian state as difficult as possible by denying Visas to the PA.

                                                  New York is no longer a viable place for the U.N. headquarters.
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 103475

                                                    #24490




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                                                    • Hareeba!
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                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37340

                                                      #24491
                                                      The President of Portugal just called Donald Trump a “Russian asset” — on camera.

                                                      No hesitation. No euphemism.

                                                      Just facts and a mic.

                                                      You know the global respect is gone when world leaders start using intelligence community lingo like it’s small talk.
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                                                      • blankoblanco
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-18-11
                                                        • 3500

                                                        #24492
                                                        Among the worst approval ratings we have ever seen in history. That's fine, just keep telling yourself you made the right choice.
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                                                        • DwightShrute
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-17-09
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                                                          #24493
                                                          Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                          Among the worst approval ratings we have ever seen in history. That's fine, just keep telling yourself you made the right choice.


                                                          you are is denial still.

                                                          President Trump has the highest approval rating within the Republican party over 90% ... Higher than any president in history within his own party!

                                                          Keep listening to the MSM. They will keep reminding you how its bad to reduce crime and have clean streets and how he colluded with Russia and all the other lies you continue to believe.

                                                          Since Trump sent the National Guard into D.C

                                                          • 0 Homicides
                                                          • carjackings down (83%)
                                                          • Robberies down (46%)
                                                          • Violent crime down (22%)


                                                          The liberal media's totally ignoring this. They will keep lying and saying its a bad thing, but the residence in DC say its great. The mostly White liberals will scream about how fascist this is. Morons.

                                                          OMG how horrible to have people live with less crime and cleaner streets. Trump is a threat to democracy. He is literally Hitler. In reality, Trump is a threat the Woke lunatics who need safe spaces, use pronouns, and scream to the sky. Those people are beyond help. They are a cancer on society.

                                                          America definitely made the right choice. America is back!



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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            • 01-17-09
                                                            • 103475

                                                            #24494
                                                            this guy totally destroys the democrats and shows what hypocrites they are.



                                                            TDS is real.
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                                                            • Optional
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                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61805

                                                              #24495
                                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                              there is a difference between being awake and being woke. I can explain it, like it did above, but I cannot make you understand it. Hopefully you get what I am saying. Fingers crossed.
                                                              Ok, I'll try and answer those.

                                                              "Does not want to allow any opinion not aligned with their own to be aired. - That is what the WOKE do."

                                                              OK thanks, but I have heard your opinion of what woke is many times. I hoped seeing if we understood what anti-woke is was a good change. Any chance you could try again and not respond to an allegation about how the anti-woke (yourself) thinks with yet another rant about what woke people do? It is possible that extremists on both ends use the same tactics btw.

                                                              Do you want all people's opinions allowed to be expressed whether you like them or not?

                                                              I can answer that one in one word. Yes.

                                                              Same as even a free speech absolutist like Musk should answer that one. With one word. Yes. No hedging required.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61805

                                                                #24496
                                                                Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                                there is a difference between being awake and being woke. I can explain it, like it did above, but I cannot make you understand it. Hopefully you get what I am saying. Fingers crossed.
                                                                "Does not agree with equality for everyone. The Woke do not believe is equality. The believe in equity. Huge difference. Especially not the people who they chose to label as having a mental illness or being a criminal."

                                                                Again, OK. I get your opinion of the woke.

                                                                Do you want equality for everyone as an anti-woke warrior? Or not?

                                                                Do you think criminals and the mentally ill should not have the same basic rights as everyone else?

                                                                These seem to be very common talking points when you are triggered about anyone being too woke for you. Your history says you think both these groups should not enjoy the same rights as others. Have I got that right or not?
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                                                                • Optional
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                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61805

                                                                  #24497

                                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                                  there is a difference between being awake and being woke. I can explain it, like it did above, but I cannot make you understand it. Hopefully you get what I am saying. Fingers crossed.
                                                                  Does not believe there is strength in diversity of opinion.

                                                                  Is there strength in diversity? I guess there can be some sure. Its a blanket statement however. WOKE think this. No one has a problem with diversity. The problem people have with diversity is when its forced upon the public. The Woke take it to the extreme. They want it to be forced on society. Reasonable people want things to be based on merit rather that forcing any group to be represented. We want diversity to happen naturally. I know it's a old analogy but it's still rings true ... do you want diversity in the NBA? Or do you, as a fan, want to watch the very best players play basketball? Do you care if they are all Black? Do you demand there should be Whites and Asians on the team because there is strength in diversity?

                                                                  United Airlines said their goal is to have 50% of their pilots to be woman and people of color by 2030 because its mostly White male pilots now. My reply is "so what it the majority are White men?" By denying White men to be pilots because of a mandate to have 50% women and people of color, isn't that discrimination against White men? It absolutely is. Imagine you studied your ass off and where at the top of your class but you can't be a pilot because your are White? Or any color. DEI is racist and discrimination as is affirmative action. Its the definition of it. It discriminates because of a person's skin color which was wrong decades ago as it is today. A While make shouldn't be discriminated over what happened generations ago.

                                                                  I remember when Trudeau became PM. He hired 50% men and 50% women in his cabinet. Not by accident. Deliberately. He said so. That's bullshit. He should hire the best people. If they are all women, then fine. Biden said he would hire a Black woman as his VP and a Black woman to the Supreme court. That is wrong. He should just hire the 2 best people. If they are Black women, then fine.




                                                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                  Is there strength in diversity?
                                                                  I guess we can go with a No then? I think

                                                                  I would not wrap that No in bigoted views about blacks and women being given a leg up though. Completely different issue.

                                                                  Maybe if we couch it this way... Do you see any value in hearing and trying to understand opinions that you currently do not like?

                                                                  I think the anti-woke are rabid about shutting down any exposure of ideas they do not approve of. And I think that's bad for everyone.



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                                                                    • 06-10-10
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                                                                    #24498
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                                    there is a difference between being awake and being woke. I can explain it, like it did above, but I cannot make you understand it. Hopefully you get what I am saying. Fingers crossed.
                                                                    Only wants freedom for people who make choices the same as their own. Everyone wants that I hope.

                                                                    Maybe something was lost in translation. I definitely do not want a world like that. i think it would be unfair and lead to the demise of all freedom if left unchecked.

                                                                    This is what I mean by diversity of opinion bringing strength. if we dont respect the choices of others we wont be able to rely on our own choices being respected in the end.



                                                                    I think being anti-woke is being caught in a Barnum & Baily level mind trap​​. I think it is arguing for more controls and thought policing of us all.

                                                                    What do you think about anti-woke?
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                                                                      • 06-10-10
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                                                                      #24499
                                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute

                                                                      Great post by a radical Lefty who uses he/him pronouns in his bio.

                                                                      trusting the experts” is not the same as trusting science.

                                                                      The "experts" told us that a high carb, low fat, high sugar diet was the way to go. This caused an obesity epidemic. You should research on how many times the USDA original food pyramid failed approval before eventually be accepted. Why did it fail so many times before being approved as the health guide for an entire country? If I remember correctly, if failed 5 times before being approved.

                                                                      The USDA's original Food Pyramid was flawed because it recommended excessive grains and carbohydrates while minimizing fats, failed to differentiate between whole and refined grains, and lacked specific guidance on healthy fat sources, leading to the creation of high-sugar, low-fat processed foods. It also featured large, potentially industry-influenced portions for groups like dairy. Critics noted it was confusing and promoted an outdated, unhealthy dietary approach, which ultimately contributed to the nation's obesity crisis.

                                                                      Key Flaws of the Original Food Pyramid
                                                                      • Misplaced Emphasis on Grains and Carbs:
                                                                        The pyramid's base was a giant portion of bread, cereal, rice, and pasta, recommending 6-11 servings daily without specifying whole grains. This promoted a high-carb, low-fat diet, especially as the food industry began creating low-fat products with high sugar content to replace the removed fat.



                                                                      It seems obvious to most that the entire pyramid was backwards with hindsight.

                                                                      But I don't recall hearing anyone arguing it was so wrong during the 30 odd years it was promoted before about 2010.

                                                                      That's a looong time to accept the incorrect if it really was obvious all along.
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                                                                        #24500
                                                                        Originally posted by Optional

                                                                        Only wants freedom for people who make choices the same as their own. Everyone wants that I hope.

                                                                        Maybe something was lost in translation. I definitely do not want a world like that. i think it would be unfair and lead to the demise of all freedom if left unchecked.

                                                                        This is what I mean by diversity of opinion bringing strength. if we dont respect the choices of others we wont be able to rely on our own choices being respected in the end.



                                                                        I think being anti-woke is being caught in a Barnum & Baily level mind trap. I think it is arguing for more controls and thought policing of us all.

                                                                        What do you think about anti-woke?
                                                                        Like I said before, no one is against diversity. That shit happens on its own in a free society. You have a free society that doesn't discriminate, diversity will naturally happen. There's no stopping it. It won't happen overnight. Its called equality.

                                                                        Forced diversity isn't the same. That's equity. It may be with good intentions, but that doesn't make it any less discriminatory against a group of people. Have you heard the expression ... "hell is paved with good intentions"? Or "2 wrongs don't make a right"?


                                                                        I will use, dudes competing against chicks, as my example of what anti-woke is.

                                                                        anti-woke is admitting allowing men to compete against women in competitive sports is idiotic.
                                                                        Woke is clapping when the dude beats the women by a lot and pretending men don't have a physical advantage.
                                                                        Anti-woke person would be embarrassed at how stupid people are allowing this and would demand and end to this.
                                                                        A woke person wouldn't care how unfair this is to all those women who have trained so hard.
                                                                        Woke people will declare how amazing, inspirational, and brave it is to have a trans woman competing in women's sports. The anti-Woke will say you're a fukking moron.
                                                                        Anti-woke person sticks up for what is right and decent.
                                                                        Woke person doesn't give a shit about decency and fairness.
                                                                        Anti-woke person who is in the crowd will say this isn't right, this isn't fair, this is wrong etc
                                                                        Woke person will clap and pretend this is fine and how its a victory for trans people.





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