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[DwightShrute]

Hareeballs going back to 2018 for Trump quotes but still get's them wrong. LOL

That's not what Trump said.

There a difference between legal and Illegal immigrants. Mass illegal immigration was what Trump was referring to. This isn't a secret. People can see how its ruining many European countries.

There is no such thing as a Czechoslovian. Never has been.

[DwightShrute]

Hearing Patel and the rump spew their lying stupid shit drops my IQ 30 points and I ain't too smucking fart to begin with.

I call bullshit. No one in history has recorded an IQ of zero. A 30% drop would get you in the negative numbers which would be impossible.

Lincoln Project, Occupy Democrats, CNN. That says it all.

[DwightShrute]

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[rkelly110]

Don't doubt this at all! That's something a repuke would do.

[DwightShrute]

Don't doubt this at all! That's something a repuke would do.

more lies.

Carter lost because gas was expensive and he was weak. The helicopters ran out of gas trying to rescue the hostages. They were released on Reagan's first day in office.

There is gonna be a lot of good thing happening in the US soon. Too bad you'll miss it.

[jackpot269]

more lies.

Carter lost because gas was expensive and he was weak. The helicopters ran out of gas trying to rescue the hostages. They were released on Reagan's first day in office.

There is gonna be a lot of good thing happening in the US soon. Too bad you'll miss it.

I certainly hope there is a lot of good things happening for the middle class and working poor. I understand there will be plenty of good things for the rich.

I'm ready for those big discounts on gas and food items that we heard about during the campaign.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I certainly hope there is a lot of good things happening for the middle class and working poor. I understand there will be plenty of good things for the rich.

I'm ready for those big discounts on gas and food items that we heard about on the during the campaign.

Things have been great for the poor and middle class under Biden, you say? In my view, things can't really get worse going forward. Do you not see the left is the elite class now and right is for the working class? Maybe one day you will have an epiphany.


Why don't you all stop having a pity party and get on board for a very interesting 2025. Are you(the left, not you specifically) rooting for the country to succeed? I have my doubts and many probably want to see a massive failure but he can't and won't be worse than Biden, I can assure you of that. I'm optimistic America will be on the right track but it won't be overnight.

In other news, happy new year to you and yours.

[Optional]

more lies.

Carter lost because gas was expensive and he was weak. The helicopters ran out of gas trying to rescue the hostages. They were released on Reagan's first day in office.

There is gonna be a lot of good thing happening in the US soon. Too bad you'll miss it.

That's a bit disingenuous. Reagan definitely worked against America saving the hostages whilst Carter was still in power.

And your weasel wording is no excuse. If he is lying, so are you the way you couched that.

[Optional]

Things have been great for the poor and middle class under Biden, you say? In my view, things can't really get worse going forward. Do you not see the left is the elite class now and right is for the working class? Maybe one day you will have an epiphany.


Why don't you all stop having a pity party and get on board for a very interesting 2025. Are you(the left, not you specifically) rooting for the country to succeed? I have my doubts and many probably want to see a massive failure but he can't and won't be worse than Biden, I can assure you of that. I'm optimistic America will be on the right track but it won't be overnight.

In other news, happy new year to you and yours.

Do you think things have been worse for Americans or Europeans? or Australians? Or the Brits?

If Biden has been the big destroyer, can you name any financial metric that shows Americans had it worse than equivalent countries?

GDP, Inflation, Unemployment, Gas Prices, Cost Of Living, Dow or any other stock index... anything like that.

I think you will find that you cannot find even one common metric like that to support your view about how badly the USA has faired over the last 4 years.

I believe that you have been tricked into feeling sorry for your self about economic issues.


But whatever, the election is over. 2024 was a massively good year for world economies and 2025 is looking even better and Trump is here to save us all. You can stop wringing your hands now. Really.

[jt315]

Hearing Patel and the rump spew their lying stupid shit drops my IQ 30 points and I ain't too smucking fart to begin with.

This right here is only part of the reason all the right people are worried about his nomination.

The FBI is opening [] based on an articulable factual basis that reasonably indicates that President Donald J. Trump may be or has been, wittingly or unwittingly, involved in activities for or on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation.

How did this right wing conspiracy turn out for you lemmings ?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Do you think things have been worse for Americans or Europeans? or Australians? Or the Brits?

If Biden has been the big destroyer, can you name any financial metric that shows Americans had it worse than equivalent countries?

GDP, Inflation, Unemployment, Gas Prices, Cost Of Living, Dow or any other stock index... anything like that.

I think you will find that you cannot find even one common metric like that to support your view about how badly the USA has faired over the last 4 years.

I believe that you have been tricked into feeling sorry for your self about economic issues.


But whatever, the election is over. 2024 was a massively good year for world economies and 2025 is looking even better and Trump is here to save us all. You can stop wringing your hands now. Really.

Fair point but one common denominator is every country you mentioned went very far left and woke. They also started letting in an influx of illegals and immigrants into places that are already short on housing and now you are seeing the results.

As far as me being fooled, I believe what I see with my own eyes and experience myself. I know your country has a massive immigration and housing shortage as well looks like your leader is on the way out for a more conservative one. That is the theme all over the world.

Let's see what happens over the next 5-10 years when these countries are not run by the radical far left.

[Hareeba!]

Day 1 of the new year and already he's posting dumb shit

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Optional, which of your 3 flags do you bow to?


This is the type of nonsense that causes divisiveness and brings about more issues IMHO.

[jackpot269]

Things have been great for the poor and middle class under Biden, you say? In my view, things can't really get worse going forward. Do you not see the left is the elite class now and right is for the working class? Maybe one day you will have an epiphany.


Why don't you all stop having a pity party and get on board for a very interesting 2025. Are you(the left, not you specifically) rooting for the country to succeed? I have my doubts and many probably want to see a massive failure but he can't and won't be worse than Biden, I can assure you of that. I'm optimistic America will be on the right track but it won't be overnight.

In other news, happy new year to you and yours.

No, I did not say that. Read my post again. No matter who had won in 2020 hard times were coming. A person could argue that it may not have been as bad if Trump had won. You could argue it would have been worse. He left office with the supply chain broken. It took 2 years to get it back on track and Trump could not have gotten them ships to port any faster.

It is actually funny that the GOP has its followers believing that the Democrats have more multi-millionaires (and above) supporters than the GOP does. Because a few high-profile billionaires do support the democrats. If I was that rich, and economics was my only reason to vote for a party I would vote GOP most times. Since I am middle class, I usually vote democrat or independent. I have never voted a straight ticket. Voted in the GOP primaries in 2024.

The GOP is against unions and your right to have a CBA, that is taking away a very important right that you have.
They are against a minimum wage or raising it. I'm talking about the federal $7.25. That has not had a raised since 2009.
I do not want a failure in 2025 and/or beyond, especially economically. There are a lot of low wage earners in the area where I live. People I went to school with and their families, a lot of them work in foundries, very hard work for little pay. Hard times are rough on everyone, but harder on some more than others. I hate to see the kids suffer. I've been lucky enough thru hard work and long hours to make a good living during my working career. My child is raised and has a Law Degree from UT Knoxville and doing great. Everyone is not as fortunate.

Anyways, I hope that you and your family have a great 2025.GL on all you bets and poker too!

[Optional]

Fair point but one common denominator is every country you mentioned went very far left and woke. They also started letting in an influx of illegals and immigrants into places that are already short on housing and now you are seeing the results.

As far as me being fooled, I believe what I see with my own eyes and experience myself. I know your country has a massive immigration and housing shortage as well looks like your leader is on the way out for a more conservative one. That is the theme all over the world.

Let's see what happens over the next 5-10 years when these countries are not run by the radical far left.

I realize I don't know what life is really like there. And it could be way more terrible than I am thinking. But the electioneering about America being worse economically than it should be just does not match up with literally every piece of data I have seen. It's almost unfair how well the USA is doing considering the covid policies iy had early on.

Aussies had it tougher since covid too. On paper, worse than you guys. But there is not the widespread sense of doom and gloom about 2024 or the future.

We had a conservative govt over covid. Who did an awesome job. But like every country who had elections in or around 2022/23 they were voted out simply due to being in when covid started. And now people realize the other side is no better and the color is changing right back. That is the global trend. Not some imaginary red wave maybe 50 million Americans somehow think is a world wide thing.

Anyway, point is that the outlook is good. The new govt is being handed an economy they can work with and improve fast. Time to send some positivity into the ether and use the law of attraction to help bring the prosperity. Talking stuff down has an effect.

[rkelly110]

How do you dumb wingers like that who you elected can be bought like a cheap whore?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

No, I did not say that. Read my post again. No matter who had won in 2020 hard times were coming. A person could argue that it may not have been as bad if Trump had won. You could argue it would have been worse. He left office with the supply chain broken. It took 2 years to get it back on track and Trump could not have gotten them ships to port any faster.

It is actually funny that the GOP has its followers believing that the Democrats have more multi-millionaires (and above) supporters than the GOP does. Because a few high-profile billionaires do support the democrats. If I was that rich, and economics was my only reason to vote for a party I would vote GOP most times. Since I am middle class, I usually vote democrat or independent. I have never voted a straight ticket. Voted in the GOP primaries in 2024.

The GOP is against unions and your right to have a CBA, that is taking away a very important right that you have.
They are against a minimum wage or raising it. I'm talking about the federal $7.25. That has not had a raised since 2009.
I do not want a failure in 2025 and/or beyond, especially economically. There are a lot of low wage earners in the area where I live. People I went to school with and their families, a lot of them work in foundries, very hard work for little pay. Hard times are rough on everyone, but harder on some more than others. I hate to see the kids suffer. I've been lucky enough thru hard work and long hours to make a good living during my working career. My child is raised and has a Law Degree from UT Knoxville and doing great. Everyone is not as fortunate.

Anyways, I hope that you and your family have a great 2025.GL on all you bets and poker too!

It certainly sounds like that is what you're implying. Most middle/lower class are living paycheck to paycheck with little to no chance of ever getting ahead and buying a home. Additionally since you rant against the right 99.9% of the time, how can one not think that is your belief?


Anyways, I do not want to waste much time in a circular argument where neither side will budge. We both believe what we believe and nobody is going to change that.


Let's see what happens with some of the household changes that are going to be made.


Sounds like you and your family are still ok and same here but I 100% believe the right is more for the people now and so did most of the country at the ballot box. They do not like what has been and want a sweeping change.


Maybe in 5-10 years, I will change my stance...I do have the ability to do that but do not forsee it happening. I forsee a lot more from the left seeing the light and jumping over.

[Hareeba!]

Newsmax host deletes fake news post

[khicks26]

Things have been great for the poor and middle class under Biden, you say? In my view, things can't really get worse going forward. Do you not see the left is the elite class now and right is for the working class? Maybe one day you will have an epiphany.


Why don't you all stop having a pity party and get on board for a very interesting 2025. Are you(the left, not you specifically) rooting for the country to succeed? I have my doubts and many probably want to see a massive failure but he can't and won't be worse than Biden, I can assure you of that. I'm optimistic America will be on the right track but it won't be overnight.

In other news, happy new year to you and yours.

Things can always get worse. The dollar could collapse which would cause the empire to collapse. You will be wishing for the days of Biden if that happens.

Not that I am a fan of Biden, he's a neoliberal POS. A tool of the elite class for sure, but to say Biden is left wing is fuking stupid. Please google the Overton Widow to see how most of both parties have moved to the right since the 1980's. The left wing in this country has no power.

Everyone wants the country to succeed. I just don't see a spoiled rich brat that has never done anything for another person in his life is the way to succeed. Didn't we just see this BS 4 years ago? What in your mind thinks this clown show will be good for the country?

[mjsuax13]

How do you dumb wingers like that who you elected can be bought like a cheap whore?

Send Elon back!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I realize I don't know what life is really like there. And it could be way more terrible than I am thinking. But the electioneering about America being worse economically than it should be just does not match up with literally every piece of data I have seen. It's almost unfair how well the USA is doing considering the covid policies iy had early on.

Aussies had it tougher since covid too. On paper, worse than you guys. But there is not the widespread sense of doom and gloom about 2024 or the future.

We had a conservative govt over covid. Who did an awesome job. But like every country who had elections in or around 2022/23 they were voted out simply due to being in when covid started. And now people realize the other side is no better and the color is changing right back. That is the global trend. Not some imaginary red wave maybe 50 million Americans somehow think is a world wide thing.

Anyway, point is that the outlook is good. The new govt is being handed an economy they can work with and improve fast. Time to send some positivity into the ether and use the law of attraction to help bring the prosperity. Talking stuff down has an effect.

Global trends usually start here. The woke shit started here and moved around the world. Now with Trump winning you see what is happening in Canada, Europe and your country. Most are sick of being scared to voice opinions etc and just want to live in peace and not be told what to think etc.

I will have positivity in about 3 weeks when the 4 year nightmare is over.

[khicks26]

That's a bit disingenuous. Reagan definitely worked against America saving the hostages whilst Carter was still in power.

And your weasel wording is no excuse. If he is lying, so are you the way you couched that.

Weasel Wording! LMAO

Dwight is the head Weasel Dick, so of course it's a lie.

[Hareeba!]

I realize I don't know what life is really like there. And it could be way more terrible than I am thinking. But the electioneering about America being worse economically than it should be just does not match up with literally every piece of data I have seen. It's almost unfair how well the USA is doing considering the covid policies iy had early on.

Aussies had it tougher since covid too. On paper, worse than you guys. But there is not the widespread sense of doom and gloom about 2024 or the future.

We had a conservative govt over covid. Who did an awesome job. But like every country who had elections in or around 2022/23 they were voted out simply due to being in when covid started. And now people realize the other side is no better and the color is changing right back. That is the global trend. Not some imaginary red wave maybe 50 million Americans somehow think is a world wide thing.

Anyway, point is that the outlook is good. The new govt is being handed an economy they can work with and improve fast. Time to send some positivity into the ether and use the law of attraction to help bring the prosperity. Talking stuff down has an effect.

Yeah!

They failed to place orders for vaccines which extended the lockdowns.

They failed to adequately prepare the aged care sector, were too slow to respond to issues with outbreaks in residential aged care facilities, and failed to accept full responsibility for the sector despite being the government responsible for funding and regulating aged care.


And you seem to have overlooked the prime reason the government was booted out was their rampant corruption and appalling leader.

[rkelly110]

This right here is only part of the reason all the right people are worried about his nomination.

The FBI is opening [] based on an articulable factual basis that reasonably indicates that President Donald J. Trump may be or has been, wittingly or unwittingly, involved in activities for or on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation.

How did this right wing conspiracy turn out for you lemmings ?

One would have to wonder why no US bank will loan your boy any money and why he went to russia for the money. Now he owes them. He was paying them back in his last term by importing russian oil or is that a fallacy? They helped him again this time along with billionaires wanting to buy the country. Maybe we are just dreaming? Never seen a bunch of rich F's and rump appointees wanting to tear down America in all my life. It's disgusting and you should be disgusted also.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Things can always get worse. The dollar could collapse which would cause the empire to collapse. You will be wishing for the days of Biden if that happens.

Not that I am a fan of Biden, he's a neoliberal POS. A tool of the elite class for sure, but to say Biden is left wing is fuking stupid. Please google the Overton Widow to see how most of both parties have moved to the right since the 1980's. The left wing in this country has no power.

Everyone wants the country to succeed. I just don't see a spoiled rich brat that has never done anything for another person in his life is the way to succeed. Didn't we just see this BS 4 years ago? What in your mind thinks this clown show will be good for the country?

Yes, they could and I am sure you will be the first to point it out but I don't see it.


I have said many times that I have never been a fan of Trump but just as people voted for Biden mostly just because of their hate for Trump, many voted for Trump because they did not want to continue on the current trajectory.

I will say that I 100% believe that Trump cares more for the country and it's citizens than the left. Maybe I will come back years down the line and eat crow but I don't see that either.

Happy new year to you and yours

[Optional]

Optional, which of your 3 flags do you bow to?


This is the type of nonsense that causes divisiveness and brings about more issues IMHO.

No idea what you mean?

The Union Jack in the corner?

I did vote to keep the Queen as head of state last time we voted on it.

But not really one to bow down to any flag or politician.

[jackpot269]

So Biden is trying to do a preemptive pardon, which of course is illegal and unconstitutional, which shows that he is guilty misconduct and protecting his buddies for using the White House for corrupt criminal purposes . Let's hope he doesn't get away with it.

Biden is pure scum. Always has been. Flying his crackhead son on Air Force 2 making secret deals with the CCP and Ukraine. Unreal. The media is complicit and the radical losers on the Left pretend it didn't happen. The same people who constantly accuse us of being in a cult LMFAO!

I don't know if the pardons are illegal and unconstitutional or not. But is that not what Ford did for Nixon. Was a precedent set.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

No idea what you mean?

The Union Jack in the corner?

I did vote to keep the Queen as head of state last time we voted on it.

But not really one to bow down to any flag or politician.

I saw some press conference where they had the Aussie flag and had to literally stop the woman from speaking to make a fuss about bringing in 2 other flags into the picture. I think one is the aboriginal and the other is some islands one? You are all Australians, no? I do not see the point of the 3 flag nonsense as it will only cause more issues.

I am by no means an expert on this but thought this made no sense. This is what happens when you pander to everyone. I hear the conservative that will likely win your 2025 election(can't remember his name) wants 1 flag, the Australian flag and has already made that clear.

[Optional]

Yeah!

They failed to place orders for vaccines which extended the lockdowns.

They failed to adequately prepare the aged care sector, were too slow to respond to issues with outbreaks in residential aged care facilities, and failed to accept full responsibility for the sector despite being the government responsible for funding and regulating aged care.


And you seem to have overlooked the prime reason the government was booted out was their rampant corruption.

Sure. They made some errors. They tried to set up hundreds of emergency clinics with ventilators too. Although even you might want to give them credit for the fast way they acted in February 2020, before almost any country outside Italy was taking it that seriously.

But you cannot argue with the end result. Amongst the lowest death tolls in the world. Very little economic pain for the average man. Saved the economy just like the (Labor) govt saved us from the GFC and the Libs saved us from the AFC before that.

They did great.



Do you like Friendly Jordies? I listen to him often, but he can't see the good outside the Labor party for the trees sometimes. Similar to how you come across.

[Optional]

I saw some press conference where they had the Aussie flag and had to literally stop the woman from speaking to make a fuss about bringing in 2 other flags into the picture. I think one is the aboriginal and the other is some islands one? You are all Australians, no? I do not see the point of the 3 flag nonsense as it will only cause more issues.

I am by no means an expert on this but thought this made no sense. This is what happens when you pander to everyone. I hear the conservative that will likely win your 2025 election(can't remember his name) wants 1 flag, the Australian flag and has already made that clear.

Oh yeah. There is a lot of noise about indigenous rights and land claims and a voice in govt going on down here.

Honestly, I don't think even full blooded Aboriginal people expect, or even want, the aboriginal flag to be the Australian flag or stand in for it.

It's that month of the year down here too. January 25th is Australia Day, from the date Captain Cook "discovered" the place. That date pisses off some people, who consider it invasion day. The rest of us haven't cared too much about if they change the date or not over most of my life. Aussies don't feel like we are English or think no one existed here before Cook. But suddenly in the last 4 or 5 years it's become a thing white people are supposed to feel strongly about.

Storm in a tea cup stuff.

[Hareeba!]

Sure. They made some errors. They tried to set up hundreds of emergency clinics with ventilators too. Although even you might want to give them credit for the fast way they acted in February 2020, before almost any country outside Italy was taking it that seriously.

But you cannot argue with the end result. Amongst the lowest death tolls in the world. Very little economic pain for the average man. Saved the economy just like the (Labor) govt saved us from the GFC and the Libs saved us from the AFC before that.

They did great.



Do you like Friendly Jordies? I listen to him often, but he can't see the good outside the Labor party for the trees sometimes. Similar to how you come across.

No. I don't listen to Friendly Jordies.

Morrison's government was horrendous and scandal ridden.
Robodebt just the tip of the iceberg.

[jackpot269]

It certainly sounds like that is what you're implying. Most middle/lower class are living paycheck to paycheck with little to no chance of ever getting ahead and buying a home. Additionally since you rant against the right 99.9% of the time, how can one not think that is your belief?


Anyways, I do not want to waste much time in a circular argument where neither side will budge. We both believe what we believe and nobody is going to change that.


Let's see what happens with some of the household changes that are going to be made.


Sounds like you and your family are still ok and same here but I 100% believe the right is more for the people now and so did most of the country at the ballot box. They do not like what has been and want a sweeping change.


Maybe in 5-10 years, I will change my stance...I do have the ability to do that but do not forsee it happening. I forsee a lot more from the left seeing the light and jumping over.

Just a quick question no argument. Do you think the POTUS election could have more about the candidate on the left? Not even that the democrats would have won, but Trump not won by as much?

[khicks26]

Yes, they could and I am sure you will be the first to point it out but I don't see it.


I have said many times that I have never been a fan of Trump but just as people voted for Biden mostly just because of their hate for Trump, many voted for Trump because they did not want to continue on the current trajectory.

I will say that I 100% believe that Trump cares more for the country and it's citizens than the left. Maybe I will come back years down the line and eat crow but I don't see that either.

Happy new year to you and yours

Maybe I'm pointing it out now so I will not be the first to point it out later. No need for sarcasm on that front.

Not a fan of Trump or Biden, that would put us in the same boat. The same boat most of the country was in. As polls showed 67% 2 out of every 3 said the same thing. Now you say lets get behind a fuking idiot and unite? That would not be my comments if the dem's had won.

Maybe the problem isn't Trump or Biden, but the system that makes us have to choose between to fuk clowns.

I give it 6 months and we will never hear from you on this issue again. The same thing you did 8 years ago.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Oh yeah. There is a lot of noise about indigenous rights and land claims and a voice in govt going on down here.

Honestly, I don't think even full blooded Aboriginal people expect, or even want, the aboriginal flag to be the Australian flag or stand in for it.

It's that month of the year down here too. January 25th is Australia Day, from the date Captain Cook "discovered" the place. That date pisses off some people, who consider it invasion day. The rest of us haven't cared too much about if they change the date or not over most of my life. Aussies don't feel like we are English or think no one existed here before Cook. But suddenly in the last 4 or 5 years it's become a thing white people are supposed to feel strongly about.

Storm in a tea cup stuff.

That seems to be the trend around the world mate, shame and guilt white people for shit that happened before any of us were born.


I have no idea what you all do for the aboriginal people but the Native Americans get a pretty sweet deal especially if there is a casino on the reservation.

[Itsamazing777]