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  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 103157

    #15751
    Originally posted by Optional
    You asked what USA would do if Mexico did that.

    Can't you just answer your own question without the irrelevant xenophobic ranting?


    Seriously!! What would you have USA to do to Mexico in this situation?

    Tell the civilians to move out of the warzone, and then bomb those people in refugee camps and hospitals for a year non-stop after they did?


    I think ethical Americans would rise up in disgust if their own country did this.

    But wondered what you really think?

    Would you cheer on America doing exactly what Israel is doing to civilian areas of Gaza or not?






    Following humane and responible war policies.

    And NEVER hiding behind "they are bad so we can be worse without shame" style rhetoric like Israel is right now.
    First of all, you need to look up the definition of xenophobic. Nothing I said resembles anything xenophobic.

    Second, they still have over a hundred hostages and said that they will keep firing rockets and attacking Israel once this is over. They won't stop until Israel is destroyed.

    So go ahead smarty pants, what is your solution?
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61447

      #15752
      Originally posted by DwightShrute
      First of all, you need to look up the definition of xenophobic. Nothing I said resembles anything xenophobic.

      Second, they still have over a hundred hostages and said that they will keep firing rockets and attacking Israel once this is over. They won't stop until Israel is destroyed.

      So go ahead smarty pants, what is your solution?
      You are in bad denial.

      You don't have to explicitly say "I excuse anything Israel does and blame everything on the Arabs" to be xenophobic... when you make posts from that point of view so often. (or maybe it's you that needs to look up the definition if you don't understand that?)


      Anyone can see you know what is happening is evil.

      You can't even bring yourself to say you would support USA acting the same way... because your XENOPHOBIA controls you and makes you unable to say it out loud.
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      • hehfest
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-28-08
        • 7934

        #15753
        I don't agree with OPTI much but he's right. Hey man, there is 1 Hezbollah fighter with a rifle in that hospital with 1,000 patients. They're hiding behind these buildings. We have to take them out no matter the civilian innocent casualties. BOMB THE HOSPITAL...NOW! Sure thing SATANyahoo.
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 37209

          #15754
          This is what the Republican Party supports by supporting Tulsi Gabbard.

          Former united states war crimes ambassador at large on mass graves uncovered in Syria:“we really haven’t seen anything quite like this since the Nazis”

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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61447

            #15755
            Originally posted by hehfest
            I don't agree with OPTI much but he's right. Hey man, there is 1 Hezbollah fighter with a rifle in that hospital with 1,000 patients. They're hiding behind these buildings. We have to take them out no matter the civilian innocent casualties. BOMB THE HOSPITAL...NOW! Sure thing SATANyahoo.
            And I don't agree with you often either.

            But that is the exact example that tipped me over the edge to definitely no longer supporting Israel's actions in Gaza.

            They had the moral high ground and right to defend and even attack to get their people back.


            But now the abused have become the abusers and there are zero excuses left for it. Nothing the Arabs have done justifies the murderous abuse of power Israel is exerting now.
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            • hehfest
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-28-08
              • 7934

              #15756
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              War is awful. Innocent people die in all wars. Is what Hamas did on Oct 7th not a crime? A war crime? If not, then what was it? What is a proportion response in your opinion?
              A proportioned response would be taking over most of the Middle East and bombing Lebanon to pieces much less Gaza too. Syria wipe them off the map. And Iran too. Oh yeah, all for something called..........."THE GREATER ISRAEL PROJECT"! LOOK IT UP!
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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 103157

                #15757
                Originally posted by Optional
                You are in bad denial.

                You don't have to explicitly say "I excuse anything Israel does and blame everything on the Arabs" to be xenophobic... when you make posts from that point of view so often. (or maybe it's you that needs to look up the definition if you don't understand that?)


                Anyone can see you know what is happening is evil.

                You can't even bring yourself to say you would support USA acting the same way... because your XENOPHOBIA controls you and makes you unable to say it out loud.
                you can say what you want but that doesn't make it true. xenophobia? Give me a break. Look it up. Hard to take you seriously if you accuse me of being something I am not. You can't show any instance of my xenophobia. I can play the same game and call you racist or a homophobe, but then that would make me look dishonest.
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 103157

                  #15758
                  Originally posted by hehfest
                  A proportioned response would be taking over most of the Middle East and bombing Lebanon to rumble much less Gaza too. Syria wipe them off the map. And Iran too. Oh yeah, all for something called..........."THE GREATER ISRAEL PROJECT"! LOOK IT UP!
                  I don't know what the proportional response should be. That is why I asked the question.

                  Originally posted by hehfest
                  I don't agree with OPTI much but he's right. Hey man, there is 1 Hezbollah fighter with a rifle in that hospital with 1,000 patients. They're hiding behind these buildings. We have to take them out no matter the civilian innocent casualties. BOMB THE HOSPITAL...NOW! Sure thing SATANyahoo.
                  I hear what you are saying but how do you know there is only 1 fighter hiding behind the hospital? How many fighters shooting rockets into Israel while hiding behind a hospital or from an apartment building is acceptable? I Googled it, and there was nothing. Is it one guy with a rifle like you said? I doubt he's a threat to Israel. Is it three guys with rockets? 100? 1000? What's the number before those who are being fired upon can do something about it?
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61447

                    #15759
                    Originally posted by DwightShrute

                    you can say what you want but that doesn't make it true. xenophobia? Give me a break. Look it up. Hard to take you seriously if you accuse me of being something I am not. You can't show any instance of my xenophobia. I can play the same game and call you racist or a homophobe, but then that would make me look dishonest.
                    OK. But back to your original question, and mine now.

                    So, would you be happy for the USA to act the same way as Israel is if a Hamas style attack came from Mexico?

                    You can say no if you want. Most humans would I think.

                    I do understand it's much tougher for you to devoid yourself of humanity when we are speaking about murderous abuse piled onto a civilian population you don't hate and can relate to, like Mexicans.
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                    • DwightShrute
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-17-09
                      • 103157

                      #15760
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      OK. But back to your original question, and mine now.

                      So, would you be happy for the USA to act the same way as Israel is if a Hamas style attack came from Mexico?

                      You can say no if you want. Most humans would I think.

                      I do understand it's much tougher for you to devoid yourself of humanity when we are speaking about murderous abuse piled onto a civilian population you don't hate and can relate to, like Mexicans.
                      I am saying the US would go to Mexico and destroy those responsible. You have to be prepared to do whatever is necessary. I am not pro war. Not for these endless wars. I am for stopping the threat quickly and get out.

                      I don't know what you expect Israel to do. They want to live in peace.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61447

                        #15761
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute

                        I don't know what the proportional response should be. That is why I asked the question.



                        I hear what you are saying but how do you know there is only 1 fighter hiding behind the hospital? How many fighters shooting rockets into Israel while hiding behind a hospital or from an apartment building is acceptable? I Googled it, and there was nothing. Is it one guy with a rifle like you said? I doubt he's a threat to Israel. Is it three guys with rockets? 100? 1000? What's the number before those who are being fired upon can do something about it?
                        My position is that it is never justifiable to bomb a hospital or refugee camp to kill one, or a hundred, enemy hiding behind them unless it can be done in a manner that reduces the risk of civilian casualties to near zero.

                        If it can't be done with bombs that way... you have no right to use bombs at all.

                        Which is the same position taken by the preeminent international court when Israel was indicted by the ICC for war crimes.
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                        • mjsuax13
                          Moderator
                          • 03-14-15
                          • 25091

                          #15762
                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                          SBR's resident MAGAts must be high income earners?

                          Which bracket do you fall in HAREEBA?
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61447

                            #15763
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            I am saying the US would go to Mexico and destroy those responsible. You have to be prepared to do whatever is necessary. I am not pro war. Not for these endless wars. I am for stopping the threat quickly and get out.

                            I don't know what you expect Israel to do. They want to live in peace.
                            Yes you do.

                            I expect them to stop being the abusers and murdering civilians the way they have been for so long now.


                            I don't think I need to also have the solution for the middle east conflict sorted out before I can say I expect that.
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61447

                              #15764
                              Originally posted by mjsuax13
                              Which bracket do you fall in HAREEBA?
                              Looks like no one should be saying there is tax breaks for anyone there. 36k to mill+ salary earner is same as no change.

                              Although +$1400 odd for a 60k salary earner does sound like quite a significant tax hike (if those numbers are true)
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 37209

                                #15765
                                Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                Which bracket do you fall in HAREEBA?
                                the one hit the hardest
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
                                  • 37209

                                  #15766
                                  Elon Musk and his rocket company, SpaceX, have repeatedly failed to comply with federal reporting protocols aimed at protecting state secrets, including by not providing some details of his meetings with foreign leaders, the New York Times report Concerns about the reporting practices — and particularly about Mr. Musk, who is SpaceX’s chief executive — have triggered at least three federal reviews.

                                  The Air Force also recently denied Mr. Musk a high-level security access, citing potential security risks associated with the billionaire.

                                  Several allied nations, including Israel, have also expressed concerns that he could share sensitive data with others

                                  He is required to report drug use. He did not.

                                  Then he went on Joe Rogan and smoked weed.

                                  He is required to report his international contacts. He did not.

                                  Then he communicated with Putin by phone several times. He had SpaceX cover it up.

                                  Strip this rooster_eater of all govt subsidies.
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                                  • mjsuax13
                                    Moderator
                                    • 03-14-15
                                    • 25091

                                    #15767
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Looks like no one should be saying there is tax breaks for anyone there. 36k to mill+ salary earner is same as no change.

                                    Although +$1400 odd for a 60k salary earner does sound like quite a significant tax hike (if those numbers are true)
                                    @60k that would be a big hit for sure.
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                                    • mjsuax13
                                      Moderator
                                      • 03-14-15
                                      • 25091

                                      #15768
                                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                      the one hit the hardest
                                      Sorry pal.
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                                      • Hareeba!
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 07-01-06
                                        • 37209

                                        #15769
                                        Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                        Sorry pal.
                                        Don't feel sorry for me mate.
                                        I no longer pay tax in America

                                        But it would be interesting to hear how all those who post here and have voted for Trump feel about this tax situation.
                                        They were warned in advance. Did they just not bother reading or hearing it? Why did they vote against their own best interests?
                                        Remains extremely puzzling to me.
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                                        • mjsuax13
                                          Moderator
                                          • 03-14-15
                                          • 25091

                                          #15770
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                          Don't feel sorry for me mate.
                                          I no longer pay tax in America

                                          But it would be interesting to hear how all those who post here and have voted for Trump feel about this tax situation.
                                          They were warned in advance. Did they just not bother reading or hearing it? Why did they vote against their own best interests?
                                          Remains extremely puzzling to me.
                                          You and I both know the mass majority of voters are UNINFORMED.
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                                          • Hareeba!
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 07-01-06
                                            • 37209

                                            #15771
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            My position is that it is never justifiable to bomb a hospital or refugee camp to kill one, or a hundred, enemy hiding behind them unless it can be done in a manner that reduces the risk of civilian casualties to near zero.

                                            If it can't be done with bombs that way... you have no right to use bombs at all.

                                            Which is the same position taken by the preeminent international court when Israel was indicted by the ICC for war crimes.
                                            According to DipShit this is a quite justifiable "defending Israel" action:

                                            The International Rescue Committee (IRC), which has deployed a team of doctors to the Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza, has condemned Israel’s attack on a UN-run school on Sunday that killed 20 people.

                                            The victims included several children, it said, citing testimony from its doctors.


                                            The IRC noted that the Ahmed bin Abdul Azeez school is located within the Israeli-designated “humanitarian zone” in Khan Younis and said doctors have reported having to treat severe injuries – such as shrapnel wounds to the head – without adequate medical supplies.


                                            “This is yet another attack on a shelter housing displaced people, in what has become a familiar pattern over the course of this war,” said Bob Kitchen, the IRC’s vice president.


                                            “The testimonies from the doctors not only paint a picture of an egregious attack on civilians, but also highlight the severe lack of vital medical supplies needed to tend to catastrophic injuries, as a result of Israel’s restrictions on aid. Doctors report a shocking lack of painkillers and the necessary tools to carry out specialised procedures. As a result, people are dying or suffering life-changing injuries which may not have been the case with adequate medical supplies.”


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                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 103157

                                              #15772
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              Looks like no one should be saying there is tax breaks for anyone there. 36k to mill+ salary earner is same as no change.

                                              Although +$1400 odd for a 60k salary earner does sound like quite a significant tax hike (if those numbers are true)
                                              And we all know from his previous posts, that it's not true. He posts lies and disinformation. Nothing else.

                                              Its just another made-up narrative Hareeballs found somewhere, his heart started to beat a little faster, and he rushed to post it. Then he goes and kicks his dog. He doesn't care if its real or not. Never has. Never will.

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                                              • Hareeba!
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 07-01-06
                                                • 37209

                                                #15773
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                                                • Hareeba!
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 07-01-06
                                                  • 37209

                                                  #15774
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                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                    • 37209

                                                    #15775
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37209

                                                      #15776
                                                      Trump upped the ante by threatening primary challenges against Republican lawmakers who back a stopgap spending bill that does not also raise the debt limit and warning them to force a vote on "the mess of the Debt Limit" during his administration.
                                                      Not even in office but already threatening his own party members.
                                                      He & his crew only want to rule, not govern.

                                                      And aren’t savvy enough to realize human relations + management need more than just the stick.

                                                      But will GOP shut him down early + hard enough? Probably not. Blusterers aren’t leaders.


                                                      Last edited by Hareeba!; 12-19-24, 04:24 AM.
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                                                      • Hareeba!
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                        • 37209

                                                        #15777
                                                        Bidenomics Was Wildly Successful

                                                        The president’s domestic record wasn’t just extraordinary. It might put Democrats back in power in four years.



                                                        The president’s domestic record wasn’t just extraordinary. It might put Democrats back in power in four years.
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                                                        • DwightShrute
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-17-09
                                                          • 103157

                                                          #15778
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                                                          • jt315
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-12-11
                                                            • 21889

                                                            #15779
                                                            DHS Under Secretary for Policy Confesses Trump Win Is "Traumatic" and a "Crushing Blow" to the Biden Administration; Reveals Biden’s Mental Decline ‘Accelerated 12 to 24 Months’ into Biden’s Presidency

                                                            During meeting’s in the White House, Under Secretary Robert P. Silvers (
                                                            @DHS_Policy
                                                            ) admitted there were times where "he’s [Biden] in there, and it’s a blank."

                                                            "[Biden] just can’t get the words out
                                                            ."
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                                                            • rkelly110
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 10-05-09
                                                              • 39691

                                                              #15780
                                                              More like made up shit from a liar.

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                                                              • rkelly110
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 10-05-09
                                                                • 39691

                                                                #15781


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                                                                • d2bets
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39995

                                                                  #15782
                                                                  Hydroxycloroquine was always a fake Covid treatment.

                                                                  In 2020, then-President Donald Trump said he had been taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent a COVID-19 infection despite warnings over side effects.
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                                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                                    • 37209

                                                                    #15783
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                                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                                      • 37209

                                                                      #15784
                                                                      Bible removed from Texas school district due to law banning 'sexually explicit' content

                                                                      The head of a Texas school district says the Bible had to be removed from school libraries because of a new state law prohibiting explicit books
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                                                                      • Hareeba!
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                                        • 37209

                                                                        #15785


                                                                        But Her Emails!
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