Republican vs Democrat

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In another worrying sign for President Joe Biden's reelection prospects, new polling published on Saturday shows him losing a double-digit percentage of his 2020 supporters to former President Donald Trump.

All polls had Trump winning in a landslide in 2020. This is why his supporters forgot to show up and vote. Keep drinking the kool aid of 1,000 random person polls and the same thing will happen again.

[DwightShrute]

All polls had Trump winning in a landslide in 2020. This is why his supporters forgot to show up and vote. Keep drinking the kool aid of 1,000 random person polls and the same thing will happen again.

thats why they stole the election

[Hareeba!]

Trump says he will “extend” his tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and big corporations that racked up the national debt

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764092097550803177

Unreal!

How on earth do they figure that's going to be vote winner?

[khicks26]

Everything I'm seeing at this point says it's too close to call, but Biden is falling like a stone.

IMO Trump will beat Biden because of Israel, inflation, and the guy has dementia.

We should not have to pick between a to old man and a crazy old man. Country is a joke.

[pavyracer]

thats why they stole the election

and who tells you they won't do it again? it will be much easier this time as they had 4 years to prepare.

[pavyracer]

Everything I'm seeing at this point says it's too close to call, but Biden is falling like a stone.

IMO Trump will beat Biden because of Israel, inflation, and the guy has dementia.

We should not have to pick between a to old man and a crazy old man. Country is a joke.

Biden will not lose because of Israel. He may win because of Israel as the Jewish-American voters far outnumber the Arab-American voters. So he picked the side that will give him the most votes.

[Hareeba!]

All polls had Trump winning in a landslide in 2020. This is why his supporters forgot to show up and vote. Keep drinking the kool aid of 1,000 random person polls and the same thing will happen again.

That's garbage.
Maybe you were seeing that at the nutty right wing sites?

"Former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee, had an average polling lead of 7.9 percentage points over incumbent President Donald Trump, the Republican nominee."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

[Hareeba!]

and who tells you they won't do it again? it will be much easier this time as they had 4 years to prepare.

And I still see DipShit who's always accusing me of posting fake news and lies continuing with the biggest lie of all!
He has zero credibility.

[Hareeba!]

Biden will not lose because of Israel. He may win because of Israel as the Jewish-American voters far outnumber the Arab-American voters. So he picked the side that will give him the most votes.

And what about all those voters who are neither Arab nor Jewish who are aghast at what we've been seeing in Gaza and the West Bank?
Not that it would have been any better under Trump though.

[Hareeba!]

And who's the candidate suffering acuity difficulties?

Wow the crowd goes silent as a confused Trump says: "And Putin has so little respect for Obama that he's starting to throw around the nuclear word."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1764089216470839300

and more:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764012655432360014

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764012313344950296

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764024825255710925

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764027610302939208

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764090438397395085

[DwightShrute]

and who tells you they won't do it again? it will be much easier this time as they had 4 years to prepare.

They are doing it again, in plain sight too. What you think all these bullshit indictments are about?

[DwightShrute]

Trump says he will “extend” his tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and big corporations that racked up the national debt

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764092097550803177

Unreal!

How on earth do they figure that's going to be vote winner?

More lies Lol

The tax cut helped everyone and took in more revenue than ever.

[khicks26]

Biden will not lose because of Israel. He may win because of Israel as the Jewish-American voters far outnumber the Arab-American voters. So he picked the side that will give him the most votes.

It's not the Arab vote that will hurt him. It's the youth vote that got him the win last time. Many will just sit home because they don't like what's happening in Israel.

[Hareeba!]

It's not the Arab vote that will hurt him. It's the youth vote that got him the win last time. Many will just sit home because they don't like what's happening in Israel.

I think that's a real danger.
But how fukking stupid.
How will they feel when Trump deports Muslims and rounds up and places millions of latinos into detention camps?

[khicks26]

I think that's a real danger.
But how fukking stupid.
How will they feel when Trump deports Muslims and rounds up and places millions of latinos into detention camps?

Probably feel the same way when a president is complicit in a genocide. Biden is giving these kids nothing to vote for and his actions make it hard to vote for him.

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It's not the Arab vote that will hurt him. It's the youth vote that got him the win last time. Many will just sit home because they don't like what's happening in Israel.

Biden has the youth vote bought already. Remember he cancelled billions in student loans. If they vote for Trump or sit home Trump will reverse these loans. They are young but not stupid.

[Hareeba!]

Probably feel the same way when a president is complicit in a genocide. Biden is giving these kids nothing to vote for and his actions make it hard to vote for him.

But shouldn't they be asking the other guy who's running for the job how he'd handle it differently?

Don't let him get away with “oh, it wouldn't happen if I was in office.”

What would his POLICY be? He should be subject to the same level of scrutiny if he's running for the job, and does not deserve a free pass on it.

Because the policy with Israel isn't President Biden's.

It's a long-standing AMERICAN policy. ALL U.S. Presidents have supported Israel.

So, before punishing the guy who's in office now, doing what he can behind the scenes with shitty cards dealt him to rescue hostages, stop the bombing, and deliver humanitarian aid, let's compare apples to apples, because I'm sure the other guy would be MUCH, MUCH worse. He doesn't give a shit about Muslims unless they're buying his property or giving his son-in-law billions of dollars.

[khicks26]

But shouldn't they be asking the other guy who's running for the job how he'd handle it differently?

Don't let him get away with “oh, it wouldn't happen if I was in office.”

What would his POLICY be? He should be subject to the same level of scrutiny if he's running for the job, and does not deserve a free pass on it.

Because the policy with Israel isn't President Biden's.

It's a long-standing AMERICAN policy. ALL U.S. Presidents have supported Israel.

So, before punishing the guy who's in office now, doing what he can behind the scenes with shitty cards dealt him to rescue hostages, stop the bombing, and deliver humanitarian aid, let's compare apples to apples, because I'm sure the other guy would be MUCH, MUCH worse. He doesn't give a shit about Muslims unless they're buying his property or giving his son-in-law billions of dollars.

Its not me you have to convince, I will place my vote against Trump but I don't like Joe Biden.

Like I said, I don't think they will vote for Trump, they just won't vote.

Did you not see the millions of people protesting in cities across the US today?

[khicks26]

Biden has the youth vote bought already. Remember he cancelled billions in student loans. If they vote for Trump or sit home Trump will reverse these loans. They are young but not stupid.

The majority still have to pay. He canceled only loans longer than 10 years old and from schools that were a rip off. I also think pell grants were canceled. He could have did more.

[khicks26]

This includes 56% of Rep's

[Hareeba!]

The majority still have to pay. He canceled only loans longer than 10 years old and from schools that were a rip off. I also think pell grants were canceled. He could have did more.

My understanding is that he has done as much as he has been able but that SCOTUS blocked some of his moves.
I believe he's still working on delivering more.

[Hareeba!]

Its not me you have to convince, I will place my vote against Trump but I don't like Joe Biden.

Like I said, I don't think they will vote for Trump, they just won't vote.

Did you not see the millions of people protesting in cities across the US today?

They are a critical voting block. If they sit it out they are playing into Trump's hand and improving his chances bigtime.

[khicks26]

My understanding is that he has done as much as he has been able but that SCOTUS blocked some of his moves.
I believe he's still working on delivering more.

I don't think he's pushing as hard as he could. Best thing he could do is cancel as much as he can and call for a ceasefire in Gaza.

That or the Dem's might replace him with someone else at the convention. Hopefully Trump dies 2 weeks later.

[khicks26]

They are a critical voting block. If they sit it out they are playing into Trump's hand and improving his chances bigtime.

Yea I don't think they care. Genocide is kind of unforgivable.

[DwightShrute]

Biden has the youth vote bought already. Remember he cancelled billions in student loans. If they vote for Trump or sit home Trump will reverse these loans. They are young but not stupid.

To be perfectly clear, Biden did not cancel anyone’s loans. That can only be done by the banks and universities. Biden illegally took money from the taxpayer to bribe voters. Imagine if Trump did that? The Left would lose their minds. Scotus said Biden can’t pay off anyone’s loans. Only congress can authorize spending. Biden says fukk you to the court, the constitution, and the citizens of the country.

[Hareeba!]

Yea I don't think they care. Genocide is kind of unforgivable.

But the point is that they have to be made to see that it wouldn't be any different under Trump.
Voting is about the future, not just scoring points based on history.
And the future would be very bleak under Trump.

[khicks26]

But the point is that they have to be made to see that it wouldn't be any different under Trump.
Voting is about the future, not just scoring points based on history.
And the future would be very bleak under Trump.

Dude, Dem's just keep moving to the right and Rep's just move to the crazy right. Saying I'm not as bad as the other guy is not much future.

Dem's have to give the people something to vote for. The lesser of two evils will only work for so long.

[khicks26]

When 70% of the people that will vote for you are calling for a ceasefire. You should call for a ceasefire or you are just spitting in their face.

Biden is a stubborn old man.

[Hareeba!]

Dude, Dem's just keep moving to the right and Rep's just move to the crazy right. Saying I'm not as bad as the other guy is not much future.

Dem's have to give the people something to vote for. The lesser of two evils will only work for so long.

Yes they do and they have a sound policy platform.

Have you seen the Republican platform?
Like Project 2025?
That's surely going to frighten more voters away than it will attract.

Like scrapping Social Security and Medicare?
Like a national abortion ban?
Like a national ban on contraception?
Have they yet come up with a health plan?
Or an infrastructure plan?

[Hareeba!]

When 70% of the people that will vote for you are calling for a ceasefire. You should call for a ceasefire or you are just spitting in their face.

Biden is a stubborn old man.

I don't think you've been paying close enough attention.
He's been very much engaged in working on negotiating a ceasefire.
But Bibi and Hamas are extremely stubborn and evil bastards.

[khicks26]

Yes they do and they have a sound policy platform.

Have you seen the Republican platform?
Like Project 2025?
That's surely going to frighten more voters away than it will attract.

Like scrapping Social Security and Medicare?
Like a national abortion ban?
Like a national ban on contraception?
Have they yet come up with a health plan?
Or an infrastructure plan?

I agree, but I'm not going to tell anyone to vote for genocide Joe either.

The Dem's could run anyone else and beat Trump, Biden needs to sit his old ass down.

[khicks26]

I don't think you've been paying close enough attention.
He's been very much engaged in working on negotiating a ceasefire.
But Bibi and Hamas are extremely stubborn and evil bastards.

Dude, Biden keeps sending them bombs to kill people. He even bypassed congress to do so. Now wants to send 14 billion more on top of the 3 billion we send every year. Yes I have been paying attention.

Don't let the political theater fool you. Biden is all in on this.

[Hareeba!]

I agree, but I'm not going to tell anyone to vote for genocide Joe either.

The Dem's could run anyone else and beat Trump, Biden needs to sit his old ass down.

He's by far and away the most experienced and capable man for the job.
His record is exceptional.
You want to sack him just because he's 81 years young?

[khicks26]

He's by far and away the most experienced and capable man for the job.
His record is exceptional.
You want to sack him just because he's 81 years young?

If he didn't act like a senile old man and was 81 I wouldn't care.

His record is not that great. The only thing he is running on is I'm Not Trump. Hard to vote for that.

[khicks26]

He's by far and away the most experienced and capable man for the job.
His record is exceptional.
You want to sack him just because he's 81 years young?

Like I said, I will vote for his old ass, but I won't like it.

I'm just telling you the way things are going the guy is in real trouble and could lose to Trump.