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  • ericc
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-05-08
    • 8278

    #1
    Cluster bombs are illegal in 108 countries
    Watchdog Urges Biden to Abandon Any Plans to Supply Ukraine With Cluster Bombs







    While the White House has yet to finalize its decision, the State Department is expected to invoke a waiver under U.S. arms export laws that would allow stockpiled cluster munitions to be transferred to Ukraine



    In a statement, Arms Control Association executive director Daryl Kimball said that sending cluster bombs to Ukraine “would be escalatory, counterproductive, and only further increase the dangers to civilians caught in combat zones and those who will, someday, return to their cities, towns, and farms.”



    The Associated Press reported Thursday that the Biden administration has decided to arm Ukraine with cluster bombs and will announce the munitions as part of a new $800 million arms package. The news comes after Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a report that said Ukraine has killed its own citizens using the munitions.


    The Associated Press reported Thursday that the Biden administration has decided to arm Ukraine with cluster bombs and will announce the munitions as part of a new $800 million arms package. The news comes after Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a report that said Ukraine has killed its own citizens…




  • ericc
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-05-08
    • 8278

    #2
    Russia’s Use of Cluster Bombs Should Spur a Global Recommitment to Banning Them

    Cluster munitions are a category of weapon that covers any delivery system that opens in midair to scatter tens or hundreds of “bomblets” that rain down over a dispersed area.







    Since 2010, 110 countries have joined the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans their use, while another 13 are signatories that haven’t ratified it yet. Crucially, the United States, Russia and China have not joined in the ban. Neither has Ukraine, nor U.S. ally Saudi Arabia, which has used U.S.-made cluster munitions in its war on Yemen as recently as 2016. The United States military is not believed to have used cluster bombs since a strike in Yemen in 2009, according to Human Rights Watch, which monitors the use of the weapons closely.



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    • Mike Huntertz
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-19-09
      • 11207

      #3
      Ukraine wants them because the Russians have them.
      Don't take a knife to a gun fight, even if guns are illegal.
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      • DwightShrute
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-17-09
        • 103068

        #4
        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Military analyst Sean Bell: <br><br>“Problem with cluster weapons is that you’re trying to hit a tank, you deliver the weapon, you deliver football pitch size of ordnance. Definitely one or two will hit the tank, go through the tank and destroy it. The vast majority will not the hit… <a href="https://t.co/USNcHyRgTH">pic.twitter.com/USNcHyRgTH</a></p>&mdash; I Meme Therefore I Am ���� (@ImMeme0) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1677357455888588801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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        • b1slickguy
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-24-11
          • 11959

          #5
          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Here is Jen Psaki in 2022 saying that using cluster bombs is a war crime <br><br>The Biden Admin is sending cluster bomber to Ukraine today <a href="https://t.co/dSMKqumDm1">pic.twitter.com/dSMKqumDm1</a></p>&mdash; Jack Poso ���� (@JackPosobiec) <a href="https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1677436400755527681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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          • ericc
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-05-08
            • 8278

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
            Ukraine wants them because the Russians have them.
            Don't take a knife to a gun fight, even if guns are illegal.
            Best argument yet for germ warfare.
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            • DwightShrute
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-17-09
              • 103068

              #7
              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imagine if Trump sent Child Injuring Cluster Bombs to Ukraine and Pushed the World to the Brink of Nuclear War. The Biden Administration are War Criminals. They stopped Peaceful Negotiations between Russia &amp; Ukraine.<br>How are ‘Liberals’ ok with this?! <a href="https://t.co/qYfhLZXEDV">https://t.co/qYfhLZXEDV</a></p>&mdash; Rob Schneider (@RobSchneider) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobSchneider/status/1677689961724940288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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              • slewfan
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-01-15
                • 15897

                #8
                Speaking of ''cluster bombs'', America has been ''cluster fukked'' for the past 7 years..
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                • VeggieDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-21-09
                  • 7214

                  #9
                  It's interesting that last year Sleepy46 said use of cluster bombs was a war crime. But now, they're a-okay. Is this a great country, or what?
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                  • Mike Huntertz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-19-09
                    • 11207

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ericc
                    Best argument yet for germ warfare.
                    Depends where you view the problem. In a trench being bombed by your enemy's cluster bombs or in a LazBoy recliner rocker passing judgement and taking the moral high ground. War is hell.
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                    • ericc
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-05-08
                      • 8278

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                      Depends where you view the problem. In a trench being bombed by your enemy's cluster bombs or in a LazBoy recliner rocker passing judgement and taking the moral high ground. War is hell.
                      Going against world opinion is probably just a strategy to get Russia to run out of ammunition. Ukraine will only have to use cluster bombs for a short while and the civilian damage will be minimal, sort of.

                      All's fair in war and all the world's a stage.
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                      • OldBill
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-02-21
                        • 6416

                        #12
                        did trump light a match when he farted from eating macdonalds lol
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                        • slewfan
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-01-15
                          • 15897

                          #13
                          Originally posted by VeggieDog
                          It's interesting that last year Sleepy46 said use of cluster bombs was a war crime. But now, they're a-okay. Is this a great country, or what?
                          Joe gets away with murder.
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                          • mjsuax13
                            Moderator
                            • 03-14-15
                            • 25077

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VeggieDog
                            It's interesting that last year Sleepy46 said use of cluster bombs was a war crime. But now, they're a-okay. Is this a great country, or what?
                            Politicians say whatever they need to say to move on from the question.
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                            • TheGoldenGoose
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-27-12
                              • 3745

                              #15
                              Originally posted by VeggieDog
                              It's interesting that last year Sleepy46 said use of cluster bombs was a war crime. But now, they're a-okay. Is this a great country, or what?
                              100% correct sir!!!

                              Should have claimed "weapons of mass destruction" and could have milked a 10 year war out of this BS. Then Hunter should get elected and would go another 10 years.

                              Oh, wait. USA civilians might not want to see that movie again.

                              Could have. Should have. Dammit I'm all messed up.
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