Alec Baldwin charged criminally

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Haha, that's pretty good.

I echo the other comments. Guy has too much $$. The right people will get paid off = no jail time.

Alec's comments were so bizarre. He pulled the trigger...and shot her. As if there's any alternative story.

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If he had acted a little more like he cared, and it affected him, having shot her maybe prosecutors would not have pushed ahead?

On what we know I can't see how he is convicted.

[lakerboy]

So, everyone who dose not like his politics thinks he is guilty of a crime?
I was not there, or pretend to know what happened, but if his views on politics were different, most all of the commits in this thread would change!

sad

You would not be defending him if he was a right wing guy. Stop acting like an idiot. You have been doing it for so long.

[pimike]

You would not be defending him if he was a right wing guy. Stop acting like an idiot. You have been doing it for so long.

Bingo

[Kermit]

On a movie set with a prop where there's an armorer responsible for the firearms? I think he could reasonably think he wasn't handed a loaded gun to fire. But hey, that's just me.

I kind of agree with you. My issue with all of this is that he is claiming that he never pulled the trigger on the gun.

So did the gun just fire itself?

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I kind of agree with you. My issue with all of this is that he is claiming that he never pulled the trigger on the gun.

So did the gun just fire itself?

Oh really? Did not know that.

This video from back when it happened talks about reports of a prop gun going off with no one pulling the trigger twice earlier in the shoot.

[jackpot269]

You would not be defending him if he was a right wing guy. Stop acting like an idiot. You have been doing it for so long.

I'm defending? If the evidence supports a guilty verdict he should get what the law calls for, just like you or myself.
Me defending a rich asshole was not my intent, what I was saying is, that investigations and prosecution should be fair and not political they should be decided by the courts instead of a sports message board
The Hypocrisy Of most because of politics is hard to understand, when it comes to criminal justice.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, one of the things that makes the USA a great country, if having an opinion makes someone an idiot then I have plenty of company including you!

[BOA12]

I'm defending? If the evidence supports a guilty verdict he should get what the law calls for, just like you or myself.
Me defending a rich asshole was not my intent, what I was saying is, that investigations and prosecution should be fair and not political they should be decided by the courts instead of a sports message board
The Hypocrisy Of most because of politics is hard to understand, when it comes to criminal justice.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, one of the things that makes the USA a great country, if having an opinion makes someone an idiot then I have plenty of company including you!

lakerboy a self righteous azzhole.

[pimike]

I read this and laugh.

This was not a prop gun

Clearly people who are against people with guns know nothing about guns how they feel how they work how heavy they are compared to toys or compared to fake guns. Oh my goodness learn something about a real firearm before you start giving your opinions anybody that has a real firearm uses real firearms would know that this was not a gun malfunction, a person pulled the trigger .


Real guns don’t go off by themselves. End of discussion.

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I read this and laugh.

This was not a prop gun

Clearly people who are against people with guns know nothing about guns how they feel how they work how heavy they are compared to toys or compared to fake guns. Oh my goodness learn something about a real firearm before you start giving your opinions anybody that has a real firearm uses real firearms would know that this was not a gun malfunction, a person pulled the trigger .


Real guns don’t go off by themselves. End of discussion.

They were revolvers, so someone had to pull the hammer back at very least I'd think?

[DiggityDaggityDo]

They were revolvers, so someone had to pull the hammer back at very least I'd think?

Depends if it was a single action or double action revolver.

[pimike]

They were revolvers, so someone had to pull the hammer back at very least I'd think?

Correct

That is a double action

Which means it’s entirely impossible to shoot on its own.

[pimike]

Depends if it was a single action or double action revolver.

A revolver, even with the hammer cocked back into single action cannot go forward by itself with out somebody touching the trigger.

[Kermit]

They were revolvers, so someone had to pull the hammer back at very least I'd think?

Maybe this is what Baldwin meant. He pulled the hammer back, let it go, and the gun fired, so he technically didn't pull the trigger.

I don't know.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

A revolver, even with the hammer cocked back into single action cannot go forward by itself with out somebody touching the trigger.

Yes I know. I didn’t say anything about the trigger.

[mama whoiscrying]

Maybe this is what Baldwin meant. He pulled the hammer back, let it go, and the gun fired, so he technically didn't pull the trigger.

I don't know.

could be kermit..... I think that the gun may have been handed to him with the hammer already cocked back. If thats the case the trigger squeeze required would be much less. And some that are cocked back require VERY LITTLE pressure. Thats what I think happened since he said he didn't pull the trigger. Could have simply had placed his finger on it and boom.

[JIBBBY]

Lock him up! Mysterious bullet in gun and he pulled the trigger and was aiming at her obviously.

Celebrity hack give him hard time.

[pimike]

could be kermit..... I think that the gun may have been handed to him with the hammer already cocked back. If thats the case the trigger squeeze required would be much less. And some that are cocked back require VERY LITTLE pressure. Thats what I think happened since he said he didn't pull the trigger. Could have simply had placed his finger on it and boom.

Oh my

I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.


Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.


The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.


Just stop

He pulled the trigger

Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.

Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.

T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot


THINK


This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!


Period

No excuses

He violated all

[JIBBBY]

I think Baldwin hated this chick and fired away knowing the gun was live and loaded. Easy way to get away with murder.

[Optional]

Oh my

I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.


Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.


The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.


Just stop

He pulled the trigger

Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.

Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.

T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot


THINK


This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!


Period

No excuses

He violated all

To be fair, it sounds like he can't really check the gun himself as it is loaded with some rounds that look real unless shaken to check there are ball bearings instead of gun powder behind the slug, as well as the actual firing blank in the firing position.

Someone needs to check there is no wadding left in the barrel as well. Like what happened to Brandon Lee.

[Ebumdude]

The armorer on set should be hammered criminally.

One thing working in favor of Baldwin, he already settled out of court with the victim’s husband. He won’t do any jail time, the on set armorer that has been known to cut corners, will.

[Kermit]

Oh my

I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.


Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.


The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.


Just stop

He pulled the trigger

Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.

Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.

T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot


THINK


This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!


Period

No excuses

He violated all

I am not defending him, I still think he fired the gun.

This is what I am talking about. Here is a a guy firing a single action revolver without pulling the trigger.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bWNC7fu79MI

[JIBBBY]

Baldwin lied and said he didn't pull the trigger. That is an admission of guilt by itself.. Lock him up!

Dude seems like a total agro arrogant prick.

[pimike]

I am not defending him, I still think he fired the gun.

This is what I am talking about. Here is a a guy firing a single action revolver without pulling the trigger.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bWNC7fu79MI

This guy is playing with the hammer

Lol


Of course it can go off. If you’re going to play with a hammer like that and a hammer doesn’t lock back in the single action position. Baldwin didn’t do that.

[pimike]

Not sure why people are trying to make excuses or false stories to try to give him credit the dude killed somebody. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not that’s not for me to decide. However, the FBI have already deemed that for that particular revolver that they used. He had to pull the trigger so if you want to argue with the FBI go ahead.

[JIBBBY]

Lock him up.. He's a dick and a half.

He was in control of the set and he had the gun in his hand pointing at this dead chick. Manslaughter charges apply here.

[jackpot269]

Not sure why people are trying to make excuses or false stories to try to give him credit the dude killed somebody. I don’t know if he did it on purpose or not that’s not for me to decide. However, the FBI have already deemed that for that particular revolver that they used. He had to pull the trigger so if you want to argue with the FBI go ahead.

Seems like its been popular lately, arguing with the FBI, this is just another case of a rich/famous person getting away with it!
The more money you have the more you can get away with.
All the speculation true or not, you or myself would be in deep shit!! but in the USA rich/famous people get a free pass most times.
I wasn't there didn't see it, but it probably want matter he probably walks

[stevenash]

The armorer on set should be hammered criminally.

One thing working in favor of Baldwin, he already settled out of court with the victim’s husband. He won’t do any jail time, the on set armorer that has been known to cut corners, will.

Yeah, he won't do jail time but Baldwin will probably get hammered in civil court.

[mama whoiscrying]

Oh my

I love people who know nothing about firearms guessing to defend this fool.


Just lightly touching a revolver trigger will not cause it to fire.


The trigger pull on a revolver is harder than a semiautomatic.


Just stop

He pulled the trigger

Either way he never checked the firearm for a live round.

Keep your finger off the trigger till ready to shoot.

T. Treat all firearms as if loaded
H. Handle with care
I. Identify your target and surroundings
N. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to shoot, kill or destroy
K Keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot


THINK


This would had NEVER had happened if he used the basic gun safety fundamentals!


Period

No excuses

He violated all

Please tell me that you dont think a cocked revolver and one that isn't cocked require the same amount of trigger pull? That is simply not the case.

As if all revolvers require the same amount of trigger pull...... CHORTLE.

And me defend an idiot liberal. Not gonna happen.

If I can figure out how to post a video I'll show you how I have one of mine set. It literally is a hair trigger that after the hammer is cocked a mouse could fart next door and it'll go off.

As if trigger pull can't be adjusted.....

For those who don't know it usually doesn't take much more that a 2mm allen wrench.

Or modifying the springs.

No one knows what the amount of lbs was required on his gun. I'll stick to my original thought that not much pressure was required on the trigger in question.


In an attempt by someone as dumb as me who knows nothing about weapons let me do my best to educate those that are even less educated.

Most handguns come from the factory with trigger pull in the 12 lb area. That means (explaining for the less thans) that approximately 12 lbs of pressure is required to send a bullet down the barrel.

Once the hammer is cocked the pull on the same old trigger is reduced to approximately 4 lbs. (and that couid be much less if the trigger pull was altered)

Therefore, making a statement that lightly touch a trigger will not cause it to fire is absolutely wrong if you don't know what the trigger pull was set to.

PI Micdrop

[mama whoiscrying]

Funny how some people think that just because a guy fires a gun in a movie that the same guy should be a firearms expert.

My guess is (that's right I'm simply guessing because none of us knows for sure what happened - although some of us act like it) that Alec Baldwin would not know the difference between a squib or live round.

Does that make Baldwin innocent? Nope. He was charged appropriately.

[Kermit]

This guy is playing with the hammer

Lol


Of course it can go off. If you’re going to play with a hammer like that and a hammer doesn’t lock back in the single action position. Baldwin didn’t do that.

My point is that it could be fired just by pulling the hammer back and releasing it.

I don't know what Baldwin did or didn't do.

[JIBBBY]

My point is that it could be fired just by pulling the hammer back and releasing it.

I don't know what Baldwin did or didn't do.

Not likely as the hammer has to go all the way back to generate enough force to fire the bullet. When you pull the hammer back it sticks.

Either way Baldwin caused the gun to fire either by pulling back the hammer manually like a board retard or actually pulling the trigger while aiming at this dead hippy chick.

Why was he doing that off screen makes me wonder? It wasn't like he was filming or rehearsing a scene from what I read.

[209 Life]

What a douchebag


Alec Baldwin wants the special prosecutor in his involuntary manslaughter case removed. In Tuesday's new filing, the actor claims Andrea Reeb's status as a Republican lawmaker in the New Mexico House of Representatives is "unconstitutional" — and one legal expert says he has a point. Baldwin was formally charged last week in the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins."The question is not a close one," the motion declares. "She must be disqualified."
According to the filing obtained by Yahoo Entertainment, Baldwin — who is known for his liberal views — avoided claiming politics are at play behind the decision to file criminal charges. The motion to disqualify, filed by his attorney Luke Nikas, lays out a constitutional argument.




Taryn Ryder·Writer, Yahoo Entertainment

Tue, February 7, 2023 at 2:04 PM PST









Alec Baldwin seen in New York City as he's officially charged with involuntary manslaughter for the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the movie Rust. (Photo: Reuters)
Alec Baldwin wants the special prosecutor in his involuntary manslaughter case removed. In Tuesday's new filing, the actor claims Andrea Reeb's status as a Republican lawmaker in the New Mexico House of Representatives is "unconstitutional" — and one legal expert says he has a point. Baldwin was formally charged last week in the fatal shooting of Rust cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins.
"The question is not a close one," the motion declares. "She must be disqualified."
According to the filing obtained by Yahoo Entertainment, Baldwin — who is known for his liberal views — avoided claiming politics are at play behind the decision to file criminal charges. The motion to disqualify, filed by his attorney Luke Nikas, lays out a constitutional argument.

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"Under Section 1 of Article III of the New Mexico Constitution, however, a sitting member of the Legislature may not 'exercise any powers properly belonging' to either the executive or judicial branch," the document reads. "As a special prosecutor, Representative Reeb is vested by statute with 'all the powers and duties' of a District Attorney, who is considered to be a member of either the judicial or executive branch of the New Mexico government... Representative Reeb is therefore exercising either the executive power or the judicial power, and her continued service as a special prosecutor is unconstitutional."
Reeb, who was appointed by the District Attorney to the case, previously said Baldwin, Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and first assistant director, David Halls are responsible for Hutchins's death.
“If any one of these three people... had done their job, Halyna Hutchins would be alive today. It's that simple," she declared last month. "The evidence clearly shows a pattern of criminal disregard for safety on the Rust film set. In New Mexico, there is no room for film sets that don’t take our state’s commitment to gun safety and public safety seriously."
The New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney calls Baldwin's new motion a distraction.
"Mr. Baldwin and his attorneys can use whatever tactics they want to distract from the fact that Halyna Hutchins died because of more than mere negligence on the Rust film set. However, the district attorney and the special prosecutor will remain focused on the evidence and on trying this case so that justice is served," spokesperson, Heather Brewer, tells Yahoo.
However, high-powered criminal defense attorney Michel Huff thinks Baldwin's motion may be granted.
"Because separation of powers is one of the bedrocks of our democracy, the New Mexico Constitution expressly forbids an individual from serving in more than one branch of government," he explains to Yahoo.
"As Baldwin argues, allowing a sitting legislator to also act as a prosecutor, essentially enforcing the very laws which she passed, would be an unconstitutional violation of this separation of powers," Huff continues. "Thus, while this is an issue that has not previously been addressed by a New Mexico court, other states have found a constitutional violation under similar circumstances, and I would expect the Court to side with Baldwin on this issue."
Baldwin is charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter. He faces up to five years behind bars if he's found guilty of the most serious offense.